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Children without MMR jabs should be banned from school, claims public health official
11-03-2010, 11:45 AM,
Children without MMR jabs should be banned from school, claims public health official
Quote:Children who haven't had the MMR jab should be banned from schools, according to a leading doctor.

Dr Sohail Bhatti, a director of one of the largest health trusts in Britain, said the draconian measure was the only way to ensure higher uptake of the vaccine.

Since the MMR scare more than 12 years ago the number of children receiving the combined jab for measles, mumps and rubella has fallen by a third in some parts of the country.

At the same time cases of measles and mumps, which are particularly infectious, have increased ten fold.

Dr Bhatti, director of public health at East Lancashire Primary Care Trust, said parents had a "responsibility" to ensure their children were immunised.

He said that many still feared potential side effects, despite the fact that Dr Andrew Wakefield's study which first prompted the scare had since been discredited.

Dr Bhatti, a GP who has advised several PCTs on public health initiatives, is now trying to negotiate school admission changes with Lancashire County Council to include the jab amongst the criteria.

He said: 'If you like it's a radical idea, but I feel an appropriate suggestion for East Lancashire is that we change nurseries and schools admission policies so parents realise they have a due diligence responsibility for not infecting their children and their friends' children.

'It's what happens in France. There, you can't be admitted to school unless you show your vaccination certificate.

'We have a responsibility to ensure children are immunised.

'There has been a huge problem nationally with the take up of the jab since the Wakefield scare.

'Often its the well-educated parents who are not getting their children vaccinated.

'They're worried about the side effects - which are extremely rare - and have forgotten how serious the diseases are.

'At worse rubella and measles can cause brain damage.

'I'm not saying vaccination should be obligatory. But at the very least parents should have a duty to inform schools, nurseries and doctors if they have decided not to have it.'

Fears over the MMR jab were first raised in 1998 when Dr Wakefield published a study in the highly respected Lancet medical journal claiming it was linked to autism and bowel disorders.

It led to hundreds of thousands of parents boycotting the vaccine while at the same time there was a surge in cases of measles and mumps which were previously almost non -existent in some parts of the country.

In 2006 a 13-year-old boy died in the country's first measles fatality for 14 years and another death followed two years later.

The Lancet retracted the study in 2004 and Dr Wakefield became increasingly ostracised by the medical profession as numerous studies showed there was no link between the jab and autism.

In May he was finally struck off by the General Medical Council following a extensive three-year hearing and accused of "callously disregarding" vulnerable children.

The panel were highly critical of his research methods which included giving children a £5 reward if they gave blood samples at his son's birthday party.

But although his findings have since been disputed, uptake of the MMR jab still remains worryingly low.

In some parts of the country just 59 per cent of children have been vaccinated, compared to 91 per cent in 1997 before the scare.

The latest figures show that cases of mumps amongst children and young people increased by 300 per cent in the last year alone

The disease can be particularly serious after puberty and can cause miscarriages in pregnant women and infertility in men.

Cases of measles are also rising and there are now around 1,200 a year, ten times the amount in 1997.
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11-03-2010, 02:37 PM,
RE: Children without MMR jabs should be banned from school, claims public health official
So where is the documentation to prove all those assertions?
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11-04-2010, 01:09 AM,
RE: Children without MMR jabs should be banned from school, claims public health official
they dont need it. its the mail.
11-04-2010, 09:10 AM,
RE: Children without MMR jabs should be banned from school, claims public health official
An MMR is an Immunization as opposed to an artificial Vaccination

Quote:Immunization vs Vaccination

Immunization is the process in which the human immune system is prepared against attack by infectious microorganisms. There are 2 types of immunization. In active immunization, a foreign organism is introduced into the body such that the immune system activates itself against it. It can occur naturally when the body encounters a microbe that leads to an infection.

It can also occur when the microbe or parts of it are pre-treated (to avoid infecting the person) or killed and then inserted into the body to develop antibodies. In passive immunization pre-made antibodies are inserted into the body such that the body doesn't have to create them for itself. One way of passive immunization is transfer of antibodies from mother to the foetus.

Vaccination actually is a type of immunization. It is artificial active immunization. The word is derived from the Latin word for cow, 'vaca' because the first vaccination was developed using the cowpox virus and then being inserted into humans to develop immunity to smallpox. Before vaccinations were developed, immunization was already happening every time someone recovered from an illness and thus developed natural immunity to that disease.

Thus there is an immunization vs. vaccination. All immunizations are not vaccinations. But all vaccinations are immunizations.

Immunization always carries a risk. With so many people inoculated with live MMR virus, does this make them carriers - especially when given a live or active immunization.

Vaccination tries to synthesize a prediction of what the next virus wave would be. H1N1 is a prime example of a synthesized vaccine.

I assume that give a cocktail injection like MMR would be more dangerous as it could compound effects and has more potential to overwhelm the immune system. Who knows what else is in them (thermosil, MSG, aluminum .. )?

Immunization could be potentially beneficial, given the right factors and should be weighed with the probability of being introduced to the disease, the severity of the viral infection.

I presume the dosage of virulent introduced, whether it is live or not, whether it is pre-treated or not and the ability of the person injected with antibodies. Also I suspect the growth medium (caterpillar eggs, cow retinas ..) would play a role as well.

But in most cases I would opt out of an inoculation. Playing in the dirt, breastfeeding, nutrition and a healthy dose of breast milk would do just fine.
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