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Thoughts on Iconoclast Radio
08-17-2011, 07:50 AM,
#31
RE: Thoughts on Iconoclast Radio
(04-27-2011, 01:55 AM)Deathaniel Wrote: no feel free to waste you cash on some junkie who has no new information... your free to do so i only spoke up when you mentioned it like it was a good idea....

I don't need your permission concerning where to send my cash.

(04-27-2011, 01:55 AM)Deathaniel Wrote: as for recognizing shills and shit... where to begin bout that line o shit i don't know... If you need your source to spout out against Jews every 10 words then the rest of the message is lost as the sheeple quickly shut down. I assume guys like Ventura know who controls the media and if one wishes to use the media one has to not state the obvious.. like who doesn't know the jews control the media?

It is one thing to not mention that Jews own the media and it is quite another to serve as part of the smokescreen.

(04-27-2011, 01:55 AM)Deathaniel Wrote: I do suggest you listen more to the yeti interview and if you still think he's got plenty to offer keep wasting your time listening to his shite, and enjoy. Those of us who know the real score and what is really happening are far to busy to waste educating all the ignorant masses, including those too Stupid to know what the REAL threats are.

The interview of Yeti - I listened to twice. This same individual chimed in on a thread of mine (the admin of this web site) that he believed in the Apollo "moon missions" but had no response beyond that - his belief.

(04-27-2011, 01:55 AM)Deathaniel Wrote: As for my recreational activities not into the hard drugs, but do smoke my share of the cheeba Stoned and I'm being as polite as required to get my point across, so the 9% of attack I guess is cause no matter how polite I'm trying to be I still think if you like this idiots shit your one so, well....

You sound like your brain is pretty fried - no need to explain how that happened.

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08-18-2011, 06:21 AM,
#32
RE: Thoughts on Iconoclast Radio
(08-17-2011, 07:50 AM)Detour1111 Wrote: The interview of Yeti - I listened to twice. This same individual chimed in on a thread of mine (the admin of this web site) that he believed in the Apollo "moon missions" but had no response beyond that - his belief.

Why are you lying? You saying that my opinion on the moon landings being real is based on nothing but belief is typical of the weasel tactics people like you regularly employ. If you had bothered to read my posts on this topic you would quickly realize your spin is dead wrong. For those who care about the truth, here is what I said:

Quote:While I agree with your other 3 points, I believe we went to the moon. All of the evidence put forward to support a moon landing hoax is quite easily dismissed as junk.

You then replied with a list of reasons why you believe they faked the landings - all of which have been shown to be junk science or just speculation.

Will you continue to lie about what I really said, or will you retract your lie?

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08-18-2011, 01:16 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-18-2011, 01:26 PM by Detour1111.)
#33
RE: Thoughts on Iconoclast Radio
You did say, "I believe we went to the moon."

When one believes something, one will perceive everything contrary to that belief as "junk" and "lies" and that since you disagree with me, everything I say is a "lie."

See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBJUyYuzivo


You can compare Stanley Kubrick's scotch-lite film screen technology to much of the Apollo photography.

There is also footage of the American flag getting blown around. The wheels of the moon rover and the actors feet kicking up dust and pebbles, which quickly fall back to the ground (due to Earth's gravity).

Non-parallel shadows, indicating multiple light sources, etc. That's not junk science, that's simply fact.

Footage was leaked of a shot being faked to appear as if the Earth was being filmed from half the distance to the moon... though the actors simply turned the lights off within the capsule and placed the camera on the opposite side of the craft. Why would they have to fake anything if they really went to the moon?
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08-19-2011, 02:36 AM,
#34
RE: Thoughts on Iconoclast Radio
(08-18-2011, 01:16 PM)Detour1111 Wrote: You did say, "I believe we went to the moon."

More weasel words. I already posted what I actually said. Why are you still trying to lie by omission?

(08-18-2011, 01:16 PM)Detour1111 Wrote: When one believes something, one will perceive everything contrary to that belief as "junk" and "lies" and that since you disagree with me, everything I say is a "lie."

That might be true in your mind, but that doesn't make it true in my case, or even in the general case. Reasonable people base their "beliefs" on the preponderance of evidence. As I pointed out but you continue to ignore, I have researched this topic thoroughly.

(08-18-2011, 01:16 PM)Detour1111 Wrote: You can compare Stanley Kubrick's scotch-lite film screen technology to much of the Apollo photography.

Speculation is not evidence.

(08-18-2011, 01:16 PM)Detour1111 Wrote: There is also footage of the American flag getting blown around.

The video I saw on the subject clearly shows the flag moving around without wind effects as the astronaut adjusts it.

What explanation do you have for the video of the astronaut dropping a feather and a heavy object which land on the ground at the same time?

(08-18-2011, 01:16 PM)Detour1111 Wrote: The wheels of the moon rover and the actors feet kicking up dust and pebbles, which quickly fall back to the ground (due to Earth's gravity).

Every video I've seen clearly shows the pebbles going much further than they would on earth.

(08-18-2011, 01:16 PM)Detour1111 Wrote: Non-parallel shadows, indicating multiple light sources, etc.

Any photographer can easily produce pictures with the sun as the only light source where shadows are not parallel. Any photographer will tell you that a highly reflective lander can be a secondary light "source".

(08-18-2011, 01:16 PM)Detour1111 Wrote: That's not junk science, that's simply fact.

It's simply fact that you know less about physics and photography than you think you do. Every one of those claims has been proven to be a lie or a misunderstanding of science.

(08-18-2011, 01:16 PM)Detour1111 Wrote: Footage was leaked of a shot being faked to appear as if the Earth was being filmed from half the distance to the moon... though the actors simply turned the lights off within the capsule and placed the camera on the opposite side of the craft. Why would they have to fake anything if they really went to the moon?

Again you display a lack of knowledge of basic photography. That claim has also been debunked.

I'm still waiting for actual proof they did not go to the moon...

I'm still waiting for you people to explain the laser reflector they installed which is used many times daily from sites all over the planet. I'm still waiting for you people to explain all the orbital video and photos taken of the moon's surface. How did we get those if we didn't go to the moon?

I could go on, but you people bore me. Anyway, what's your theory as to why the people who produce the videos claiming we didn't go to the moon are so keen on preventing distribution? Take a look at the ConCen torrent ban list, and tell me what stands out...
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08-19-2011, 01:13 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-19-2011, 01:15 PM by Detour1111.)
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RE: Thoughts on Iconoclast Radio
So I bore YOU, huh?? That's ironic. Anyone who has listened to your interview on Iconoclast Radio who has also heard mine, Stan Romanek, UFOs and Jews, will tell you which one is 100 times more interesting and more informative.

If fact, the website for that operation houses a good deal of resources which debunk your belief - and that is exactly what it is - your belief that astronauts went to the moon in rocket craft and were safely returned with technology from half a century ago. Ridiculous.

Sure, you can say that this theory or that one has been "debunked." There are people who would say that there was "evidence" that Saddam Hussein had WMD's - or that Muslims, not Israeli intel working with the US government planned and executed the 9/11 WTC attacks. There are people dying over these lies because it brainwashing and because of BELIEF. Those who cling to that lie do so because to think otherwise threatens their view that the US government is "good" and that Muslims are "bad."

Your clinging to the moon hoax reminds me of an 8 year-old refusing to accept the fact that Flash Gordon doesn't really exist. You can believe what you like.

Why can't NASA provide evidence that the Apollo astronauts actually went to the moon? Where are the moon rocks and why haven't any independent laboratories examined them? Where are the photos of the equipment left on the lunar surface? Show me a picture of a so-called laser reflector. Why hasn't NASA ever "returned" to the moon?

Because NASA is an occult-based, Zionist/NAZI agency that lies its ass off. Lying is their business. Believing those lies is apparently your business.
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08-19-2011, 02:32 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-19-2011, 02:49 PM by Deathaniel.)
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RE: Thoughts on Iconoclast Radio
(08-19-2011, 01:13 PM)Detour1111 Wrote: So I bore YOU, huh??
fuck yeah you bore most, I didn't even feel the desire to crack back to your flaming ass

(08-19-2011, 01:13 PM)Detour1111 Wrote: That's ironic. Anyone who has listened to your interview on Iconoclast Radio who has also heard mine, Stan Romanek, UFOs and Jews, will tell you which one is 100 times more interesting and more informative.

If fact, the website for that operation houses a good deal of resources which debunk your belief - and that is exactly what it is - your belief that astronauts went to the moon in rocket craft and were safely returned with technology from half a century ago. Ridiculous.

Agreed the Germans did it with anti grav in the 30's with ET's help, tech exists but is not for public knowledge, and yes NASA did keep those who built the german tech, though gave them NASA and area 51 to continue there work. the chem rockets are a bit for show, and yes the original moon landings were faked but they did go eventually, they were I'm assuming as we didn't hear about any dead astronauts told politely not to return as they are not welcome kind of like Antarctica.

(08-19-2011, 01:13 PM)Detour1111 Wrote: Sure, you can say that this theory or that one has been "debunked." There are people who would say that there was "evidence" that Saddam Hussein had WMD's - or that Muslims, not Israeli intel working with the US government planned and executed the 9/11 WTC attacks. There are people dying over these lies because it brainwashing and because of BELIEF. Those who cling to that lie do so because to think otherwise threatens their view that the US government is "good" and that Muslims are "bad."
Now thats just a bating comment looking to get a comeback and ruffle some feathers pure flame. This is not the CNN web site or some MSM BS hang out, most here are not so foolish to believe either of the lies you claim the majority here buy into or Yeti. he's well aware of the banker and shadow govs or he'd not be dedicating so much time to this site. And Muslims are bad theres no debating that not as bad as some others but a dangerous dummed down false scapegoat of a people who let the jews take there land, and 60+ years later still they remain. is the us gov or any western "modern gov bad ? shit yes! We know that thats why were here now some believe or have seen farther down the rabbit hole then others but for most it's a never ending journey to learn more and to be more aware of what REALLY is.
(08-19-2011, 01:13 PM)Detour1111 Wrote: Your clinging to the moon hoax reminds me of an 8 year-old refusing to accept the fact that Flash Gordon doesn't really exist. You can believe what you like.

Why can't NASA provide evidence that the Apollo astronauts actually went to the moon? Where are the moon rocks and why haven't any independent laboratories examined them? Where are the photos of the equipment left on the lunar surface? Show me a picture of a so-called laser reflector. Why hasn't NASA ever "returned" to the moon?

Why can't the US prove Bin Laddin is dead? like the above proof you request it is lost to the either weither it is true or not, and how can one say this and be a searcher of truth....? well truth is some times void of evidence in the aftermath. I can't give you definite answers to your questions though i doubt your truly looking for them, but i will try to sum it up as easy as one can.
?1. Why can't NASA....? they feel they have is that not why so many believe the original mission. TV gorbbles would be proud! for some no evidence of the day will ever be proof other then seeing the remains of there camp on the lunar surface.
?2. Where are the moon rocks....? Oh they were tested and it's why they were so anxious to get to the moon along with the soviets, Nazi explorers had brought back several ship loads at least 10,000 metric tons most of which fell into enemy hands after the war to the two victors, they have been experimenting with it and extracting the 2-3 elements the germans had discovered in it. (Who knows if they have discovered more since the war, if there was more unique elements in it I'm sure by now they have discovered it) According to the Nazi discoveries one of the elements was non carbon based and was planned for a biological weapon being built in occupied france, who knows where this has gone to and both of the scientists who were accredited to the project were not found after the war so either they fled with Hitler to SA or were like wise paper cliped into one of the two victorious armies science departments. and of course if your well read on lunar stuff then you must have heard of H3. none of my Nazi research talks about this but it is supposed to be the main ingredient in fusion in 0 gravity. plenty of the UFO contactee' groups speak of being told of the moon as a base for fueling and staging, as the moon's abundant in the H3.

The second Nazi one and one the Ralieans also know of maybe from the same ET source is an element used in "shamanic" rituals (best way for me to put it) for transferring the consciousness of one into the body of another. Hitler and the medical science division were actively hoping to use this element to there advantage to gain immortality by placing there own "Souls" into new young Aryan bodies. some groups report the soviets, chineese and american's have developed and experimented with this element to exhaustion.

?3. Where are the photos of the equipment left on the lunar surface? good point... I too ask this as I ask the contactees if the aliens use the moon how come they're not seen... i get different answers of distance moon shadowing, etc. In truth like with the Nazi plans for the moon, and the stories of how it was used by the "gods" of old is the dark side is where all the fun stuff happens and where many of the structures viewable in google moon (with enhancement to get rid of there obvious cover ups) can be seen from Pyramids to whole settlements.

Now it will hold no value as it is a belief based on only the stories of old soldiers and there supporters in SA, but I BELIEF they (the germans) eventually fled to the moon as they had established repor with some ET's who are opposed to the Jew's god/ Plan so were welcomed to co-exist with other ET's from elsewhere or from Antarctica (though Antarctica is not dominated by true ET's as they are human just not of this cycle and way more advanced then we'll ever be think star trek. It's there ships most often seen when not with in 1000 miles of any of the test bases.

?4.Why hasn't NASA ever "returned" to the moon? Well i touched on this in my above replies but to be frank no bull shit.... were all doomed considered jew goyium, those who live on the moon know there superiority and freedom from the jew enslavement of the NWO agenda. when the American's finally did make it to the moon (to get more rocks was probably part of the drive), they were confronted and told to never return or they would be shot down, as the JEW agenda couldn't let such truth be known that the Nazi's and "aliens" dwelled on the moon with advanced tech but the world had to continue on...as there slaves... Will the moons inhabitants fair better come chaos... probably, depends on how long the moon is in the tail and how deep the buildings are. But for us (on earth) 99% will be culled and we those Rikers of awareness will be happy to see if the bunker ZOG govs's get a rude surprise when they come out of there holes to a reborn returned Nazi World. Course thats a speculative answer but..... nice to hopeIcon_biggrin

(08-19-2011, 01:13 PM)Detour1111 Wrote: Because NASA is an occult-based, Zionist/NAZI agency that lies its ass off. Lying is their business. Believing those lies is apparently your business.
All the govs lie tell me one that doesn't closes your going to get is the sweeds, and the danes. As for weither believing lies is anyone's business, is that not what religion is? I'd be far happier in the lie of the moon being dominant over the lies of religion and if were picking apart gov lies this one is pretty harmless, in fact it's a feel good lie so not even that bad in the way gov go about lying.

As for why iconoclast is a shit for brains, I 'd have to re listen and take notes to give a full answer but in truth it matters little who you want to blow... i mean blow your money on. Probably be better spent on a hooker, but I guess I prefer gratification for my investment and you prefer to just give money away like a silly gay charity. Chances of me relistening to look for examples is highly unlikely as I 'm far too busy to waste time re listening to it, but as no one else is here chiming how great the guy is and backing your play I'm guessing the majority is silent cause like me and yeti, you bore us.
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08-27-2011, 01:16 PM,
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RE: Thoughts on Iconoclast Radio
I don't need any backers to validate what I am saying. And there is very little traffic on this site in the first place so it's no surprise that few, if any respond.

NASA faked the Apollo moon missions.
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10-20-2012, 03:40 AM,
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12-13-2012, 11:04 PM,
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RE: Thoughts on Iconoclast Radio
At first I took issue at his definition of a "cult", as he argues that anyone who "believes" something is in a cult with others that believe the same thing. Iconoclast also claims that he "knows" everything and "believes" nothing. For example, he does not “believe” in God, he "knows" that God exists. As I listened to his podcasts, it became apparent that he does not know everything and that he often states his “opinion” (a form of belief), which by his logic means he is also in several “mind cults”. But all this does not really matter to me anymore. He needs to recognise that he has also been brainwashed, has mental programs, and that what he thinks he “knows” can simply be his belief system. His system of presenting himself as a leader to his followers often reminds me of the “guru complex”. Anyway...

Having said that, Iconoclast makes some good points in some of his podcasts, if you can deal with the arrogant, bullying, rude comments and manipulation tactics that permeate his work. The idea of “stepping in the ring” to fight him is nonsense and tells me that deep down he’s suffering and insecure (just like the small dog that barks all the time). IMO we are all co-learning, trying to distinguish and get rid of our mental programs and, as such, we need not to fight, but help each other with respect and brotherly love. Hmmm... I know this sounds kooky to most people, and especially on internet forums, as love is a word very rarely used by forum members who prefer to fight, debate, and hate others. Thus, in my minds mind, Iconoclast will never be a true leader of the consciousness movement (this is what he claims he is...).

Finally, Iconoclast seems to have the capacity to see the bigger picture (except for “the Jews”) and the inherent need to expose the lies, which is an important role. But as long as he thinks he never “believes” and that he “knows” everything, he’s taking the risk of being stuck in mental programs; mental programs that he pushes as “truths” to those listening to his podcasts.

I do like the information he presented whilst exposing the shills and appreciate his need to find proof when shills push disinfo. I don’t think he’s a problem in the grand scheme of things; he has his usefulness.
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