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~yeti and nik~
09-04-2010, 09:15 AM,
#61
RE: ~yeti and nik~
Yeti Wrote:I'm not asking you to agree with me, I'm asking for trust, and I'm not getting it.

You can't ask for something that needs be earned, established, experienced..
If it's not felt as a basis of respect and understanding,..
what would a couple of people saying they place faith/trust in you over the interwebs
change in how you feel about yourself or this place ?

It's not a personal thing, in essence, the difficulty is trusting
people in general, especially those you only have limited forms of contact with,
who you never directly experience, have a beer with and look in the eye when they speak.

Console yourself, you are appreciated in many ways, effortwise,
i can't pretend to know you let alone trust or vouch for you...
i suppose nobody knows you well enough to do so and
i presume you don't fully trust everyone on staff either.
i never trusted Mike or Og, or insert (dude you dont really know) ,
except that i trusted them to share certain common interests with me,
and i trust my judgement of character.

Yeti , you don't have to explain your motivations for your second account,
but not doing so only leaves people guessing and filling in blanks for themselves.


If Thine I that I spy with my own little I Doeth Offend thee ; Pluck It out.

09-04-2010, 09:37 AM,
#62
RE: ~yeti and nik~
> Yeti , you don't have to explain your motivations for your second account,
> but not doing so only leaves people guessing and filling in blanks for themselves.

Pulling the troll-account number, then asking for 'trust' is borderline schizophrenic.
09-04-2010, 11:10 AM,
#63
RE: ~yeti and nik~
Signed up for a new account myself and got flamed at because my timing happened to coincide with the arrival of the NP's, hahaha, even though I did not subscribe to this theory! Some members are just hysterical I guess.

Hope you guys figure this out or just grow up and out of being solely led by your emotions.
History's 3rd dimension is always fiction
Competition is a sin
09-04-2010, 12:59 PM,
#64
RE: ~yeti and nik~
I trust no one, and neither should you. That is even more so when it is over the internet and even more so when we have the potential to be infiltrated by people that do not agree with conspiracy theories and the information in the truth movement. There is the potential that the forum could be co opted by people who have alternative agendas. Now i am not making any accusations i am only saying that there is always that potential, so asking for trust is a bit naive in my opinion. A healthy dis-trust will keep this forum functioning as it always should have been, where any topic is ok.

To be honest when you became admin and changed all the forum section names and removed the mind control and assassination sections and i was unable to change my email address. I thought that something was a bit weird. But I ignored it, but then when you freaked out over no planes and created another account and all these people come out of the wood work and start defending your actions without sense. Highly worrying. Don't expect trust from me, not that you care with your attitude anyway. But just letting you know.
09-04-2010, 08:16 PM, (This post was last modified: 09-04-2010, 08:19 PM by h3rm35.)
#65
RE: ~yeti and nik~
While I understand the distaste in the Crotchy character, it's not as if nik is above misrepresenting himself either. He's closed and opened accounts under the same name and used that to rep me down twice while canceling an account that gave him a negative rep, and has at least two sock puppets of his own: ----- and Apocalypso Now. He's also a big fan of unilateral banning as long as he's the one allowed to do it, as well as revealing people's private information without their consent. It's unfortunate, because up until he started going bat-shit over the no-plane angle and baselessly accusing me of being an intelligence agent, he was one of my favorite posters. Now I can barely stand to spend any time here at all. I also should remind everyone that as he's calling people disinfo agents left and right whenever someone disagrees with him, he's also the same person that invited JazzRoc to the site, who IMO is the worst disinfo agent here.

As for Yeti, I'm not surprised he's disgruntled. After all the work he's done for this community, he's being handed shit for acting less provocatively while using the same tactics nik has used over and over again.

I don't want to see either of them go, but I think there should be a ceiling for how often one should be allowed to lose moderation privileges and then regain them. The root of "moderator" is "moderate," and I think at this point nik has proven himself to be anything but.
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09-04-2010, 09:34 PM,
#66
RE: ~yeti and nik~
(09-04-2010, 07:44 AM)Easy Skanking Wrote: You took it upon yourself to post news items on the tracker FIRST, while we were still trying to work things out in private. April only followed it up as YOU decided to bring the silly squabble fully out into the open and then decided you want out.

You're still denying that it was April's idea to get the member's opinions on banning nik or me leaving. April refused to put the matter on the tracker, which is where 95%+ of the members are.

Asking only the forum people to decide this is not fair to the majority of members. Deny that if you want. That is why I posted the news item on the tracker. But hey, you can use that as another excuse to make me look bad. Thanks again for that. It's really appreciated!

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09-05-2010, 01:22 AM,
#67
RE: ~yeti and nik~
Quote:But hey, you can use that as another excuse to make me look bad. Thanks again for that. It's really appreciated!
You've done a hell of a job making yourself look bad. Playing the victim doesn't suit you. Just stop being emotional about it. Like all grown ups, you and nik are both equally responsible for your actions and comments here, but all the drama isn't worth blowing everything this place has been to smithereens. You made comments, and I'm not quoting but paraphrasing, of how the No Planer types are there to divide us and rip apart everything that's been put forward on 9-11 and how they ruin Conspiracy Forums and what not. however I haven't been able to see how one single idea or even proponents of that idea can hold a candle to anything that ConCen represents as a whole. The members here for the most part are more than capable of coming to their own conclusions. But when it comes now to the issue between you and nik, you seem to be doing exactly what you accuse them of doing. I don't get it.
"Listen to everyone, read everything, believe nothing unless you can prove it in your own research"
~William Cooper

DTTNWO!
09-05-2010, 01:54 AM, (This post was last modified: 09-05-2010, 07:50 AM by nik.)
#68
RE: ~yeti and nik~
........ach well, the site is generally for kids who were never poor.
09-05-2010, 02:11 AM,
#69
RE: ~yeti and nik~
Yeti just let people believe what they want to.

nik please stop proving the stereotype of a TVF'er.

debate is the vehicle of truth
09-05-2010, 02:19 AM, (This post was last modified: 09-05-2010, 07:34 AM by nik.)
#70
RE: ~yeti and nik~
ouch- group stuff
09-05-2010, 04:29 AM, (This post was last modified: 09-05-2010, 07:33 AM by nik.)
#71
RE: ~yeti and nik~
adios left brainers
09-05-2010, 08:18 AM,
#72
RE: ~yeti and nik~
this is awesome.
09-05-2010, 09:35 AM, (This post was last modified: 09-05-2010, 09:36 AM by Hans Olo.)
#73
RE: ~yeti and nik~
Yeti:
wtf? This is a no-brainer. Just keep the no-plane-discussions in the right subforum and all will be fine. NOBODY IS FORCED TO PARTICIPATE. NOBODY IS FORCED TO EVEN READ IT. So WTF? You were made administrator, not GOD.

You tolerate UFOs, Morgellons, OFF-TOPIC, why not no-planes? I personally think it's baloney. But why should people care what I think? Why should people care what yeti or nik think? It's not your place to decide. Just tighten the rules a bit (no wild opening of topics, discussion on one topic only) and all is fine.

This is exactly why we can't live in a free society anywhere. You guys think your opinion is more important than anybody else's. It's not. This is why everybody lives in more or less totalitarian state. Authoritarian citizens elect authoritarian politicians that invade other countries and suppress minority opinion. Yeti and his supporters are on a holy mission while totally going borderline personality disorder on us. "Yeah, I fucked around, and now I want you to trust me". Look, nobody trusts you anymore, the only reason people don't turn on you is because you are doing a good technical job and we have no replacement for you right now. There, I said it.

Nik:
if all you wanted was to test the admins, just to see what they're made of, you succeeded. You have exposed yeti as being an authoritarian absolutist ruler. Both of you are little girls with your fake accounts and little nick names you give yourself though. All the while nik is going full-blown paranoia, accusing everyone as a disinfo agent left and right. That's also NOT COOL with being a moderator.

If my opinion mattered, I'd say do this and then let's go on with our business:

1. Delete all of your silly second and third accounts immediately

2. nik's old account will be reinstated, if that's possible.

3. yeti should voluntarily step down as a moderator. No conditions. He can't moderate, he has proven that to an audience.

4. nik should voluntarily step down as a moderator. No conditions. He can't moderate, he has proven that to an audience.

5. Both of you should apologize to the forum members.

6. Moderators should promise to be neutral on topic from now on. Can't have a biased moderator.

7. No-planer shit should be discussed in the right subforum, one thread at a time. No spamming of the board. Be civilized. That's all.

Apologies if I pissed you off or if I step on somebody's feet, this is just how I feel and I thought I'd share this with you. Ignore this post if you don't like it. If anyone comes after me for expressing my opinion, I promise you, I'll be outta here for good. Fuck off.
09-05-2010, 09:44 AM, (This post was last modified: 09-05-2010, 10:24 AM by nik.)
#74
RE: ~yeti and nik~
"Nik:
if all you wanted was to test the admins, just to see what they're made of, you succeeded. You have exposed yeti as being an authoritarian absolutist ruler. Both of you are little girls with your fake accounts and little nick names you give yourself though. All the while nik is going full-blown paranoia, accusing everyone as a disinfo agent left and right. That's also NOT COOL with being a moderator.
"

HANS - why not just shut up for a change! you made some nice points but fail to see that I did not ask for this silly thread nor the even sillier tracker "poll".

It was a great awful shame and it made me want to leave here resolutely --- other things combined.

hermes -- works for the man. get with that or not. Not my problem as I am out of here huhu

please desist from referring to me. ciao
"4. nik should voluntarily step down as a moderator. No conditions. He can't moderate, he has proven that to an audience."

wrong Hans -- i went too far ahead on the curve maybe. It isnt like you can work out who is conning you like I can--- so better to just use humility as a comfy blankie rather than talk shit in order to be a respected primate in some group like this on the premise of putting me/or "a convenient other" down. It is all very neurotypical. But you wouldn't understand that, I figure. that monkey business is really unappealing tbh I am done with the awful group mentalitat.

these people that love to get a few blows in when someone is already getting relentlessly mauled -- puh. that's you Hans, I hope it feels worthwhile to be so bereft of dignity.



have a look at SciDex and PVI pfft do some investigation for a change instead of opinionated hot air to attack someone because you see an opportunity.

such a cheap jerk comment you made. "He can't moderate, he has proven that to an audience" -- well, one might ask what you just proved to "the" audience. Envy possibly. Look inside -- see if is was so. : )
09-05-2010, 11:06 AM,
#75
RE: ~yeti and nik~
Tracker poll ????

Got URL ?

I'd like to participate in this one.
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