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~yeti and nik~
09-02-2010, 07:39 PM,
#1
Star  ~yeti and nik~
He folks.

Tom just put up this news item on the tracker.

Tom said:
Quote:Because of nik's recent behaviour, I decided that either he was going to leave, or I was.

The other mods have not made a decision. They decided they wanted to consult you, the members.

So here we are. Tell us how you feel...

how do you feel about everything that is going on?

If you were a mod.... how would you solve this?

There are details... but maybe we can start here.

thanks.
09-02-2010, 07:56 PM, (This post was last modified: 09-02-2010, 07:59 PM by kevlar.)
#2
RE: ~yeti and nik~
Kinda immature of yeti to throw his toys out of the cot because nik wants to look into certain theories that yeti does not agree with. If you thought yeti that everyone on the forum including the mods would think exactly what you do then you were mistaken. I don't want either of you to go and i don't see why anyone has to. It is yeti who has created the him or me situation because of his personal principles. You struggle that much with no planes ?

that is unless i have missed something or completely misunderstood the drama
09-02-2010, 08:00 PM,
#3
RE: ~yeti and nik~

Tom has added more...
Quote:I initially banned him myself, then decided a few hours later that it was ultimately up to the other mods to decide, so I reinstated him, and sent an email to Inheritor explaining my decision.

nik has taken it upon himself to publish some of the contents of that email in the forum, without my or Inheritor's permission. He has also published other people's personal correspondence without their permission, while a moderator on this site.
09-02-2010, 08:02 PM,
#4
RE: ~yeti and nik~
No kevlar, I don't "struggle" with the NPT theory.

I have a problem trusting someone on staff who subscribes to it, but I can live with that.

What I can't live with is his attitude that if you don't subscribe to NPT, you haven't read or don't understand the information he believes proves his case.

I also can no longer trust him for other reasons. The first two that come to mind are the fact that he published a moderator's private email. Are you OK with that kevlar?
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09-02-2010, 08:09 PM, (This post was last modified: 09-02-2010, 08:09 PM by kevlar.)
#5
RE: ~yeti and nik~
It is not about if i am ok with it. Well then if you and other mods think there is enough justification to remove his mod status, do it. This is about him agreeing with the npt and there is realy no other reason, any other reasons that you come up with now are only a product of your initial reaction to him. You find the same attitude as you called it from every person who agrees with a theory. To be honest rsol who was one of the main opponents in the discussion against npt also had the same attitude but in the reverse way. You can't trust him for undisclosed reasons. Sounds like your personal stuff.
09-02-2010, 08:23 PM,
#6
RE: ~yeti and nik~
Well, yeti originally dumped all over nik for looking seriously at the "no planes" theory. Yeti unilaterally removed nik from his position as an admin even though he said he wouldn't do such a thing. Then yeti reversed his decision and allowed as how he was going to reinstate nik and resign from the site himself. Nik refused to accept that decision, he felt that yeti would then have an excuse to shut the site down and he went on to say that yeti was having trouble getting jobs because he was the owner of this site and TPTB don't like it. I don't know what may have transpired behind the scenes.
This is how I recall the events unfolding.
I think both nik and yeti should stay and I don't accept the "one or the other" scenario.
An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it.
Mohandas Gandhi


Each of us is put here in this time and this place to personally decide the future of humankind.
Did you think you were put here for something less?
Chief Arvol Looking Horse
09-02-2010, 08:24 PM,
#7
RE: ~yeti and nik~
(09-02-2010, 08:09 PM)kevlar Wrote: This is about him agreeing with the npt and there is realy no other reason, any other reasons that you come up with now are only a product of your initial reaction to him.

...

You can't trust him for undisclosed reasons. Sounds like your personal stuff.

I'm sorry you believe what is demonstrably untrue.
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09-02-2010, 08:34 PM,
#8
RE: ~yeti and nik~


Love005
If Thine I that I spy with my own little I Doeth Offend thee ; Pluck It out.

09-02-2010, 08:48 PM, (This post was last modified: 09-02-2010, 08:51 PM by kevlar.)
#9
RE: ~yeti and nik~
delete, i would delete it myself but i don't have permission to delete my own posts. this tiff has nothing to do with me, so i will shut up now.
09-02-2010, 09:23 PM,
#10
RE: ~yeti and nik~
Quote:I have a problem trusting someone on staff who subscribes to it, but I can live with that.

What I can't live with is his attitude that if you don't subscribe to NPT, you haven't read or don't understand the information he believes proves his case.

Yeti - freedom of expression - admin or otherwise - is sopmething that should be primary on a forum like this. You know that as well as me.

shuffl3r
"We are just glorified monkeys in suits.... show me where it's written we should be able to model the cosmos?!" -Terence McKenna, 21st Century Bard
R.I.P-ranks Terence. I miss your take on life.
=-=
09-02-2010, 09:42 PM,
#11
RE: ~yeti and nik~
This is bullshit. Kiss and make up, this is not anything worth dividing this place over.
Neither of you should "have to go"...especially over this.
No Planes theory is not something I can say I would back up, given what Ive looked into. And knowing people that saw dead bodies falling and all the Vicsim shit they talk about on the SC site. I just couldnt back that, at all. But I dont think it should be something to hold against someone that may believe in the NPT. I also think nik may have been a lil bit hyper sensitive about the whole thing, but this just seems to be making things worse.
I have other things to worry about. Dont really have the time to get deep into it. Just buck up and agree to disagree.
ConCen is bigger than both of you but no one wants to see either of you leave over this.
my 2 cents
"Listen to everyone, read everything, believe nothing unless you can prove it in your own research"
~William Cooper

DTTNWO!
09-02-2010, 09:44 PM,
#12
RE: ~yeti and nik~
(09-02-2010, 09:23 PM)shuffle Wrote: Yeti - freedom of expression - admin or otherwise - is sopmething that should be primary on a forum like this. You know that as well as me.

So then you agree that a moderator who ridicules, insults and slanders those who differ from his opinion is not a worthy moderator, right? Go and look at what he wrote in those threads.

Are you aware that he is writing all over this board that I and others are spooks? Tell me why I should trust someone like that as a moderator.

Then you can explain how it is OK for a moderator to publish private email correspondence written for moderator eyes only, on a public forum.

Then you can explain how this is even a question open for debate...
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09-02-2010, 09:46 PM,
#13
RE: ~yeti and nik~
(09-02-2010, 09:42 PM)SiLVa Wrote: This is bullshit. Kiss and make up, this is not anything worth dividing this place over.
Neither of you should "have to go"...especially over this.
No Planes theory is not something I can say I would back up, given what Ive looked into. And knowing people that saw dead bodies falling and all the Vicsim shit they talk about on the SC site. I just couldnt back that, at all. But I dont think it should be something to hold against someone that may believe in the NPT. I also think nik may have been a lil bit hyper sensitive about the whole thing, but this just seems to be making things worse.
I have other things to worry about. Dont really have the time to get deep into it. Just buck up and agree to disagree.
ConCen is bigger than both of you but no one wants to see either of you leave over this.
my 2 cents

You need to understand that this problem is far greater than the NPT. Please see the previous posts.

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09-02-2010, 09:47 PM,
#14
RE: ~yeti and nik~
valuable cents silva!! ClapClap
09-02-2010, 09:57 PM,
#15
RE: ~yeti and nik~
So both differ on the NPT, big deal. The thing I am having a time with is why create a false character and go all over the board pissing on topics. Unless your Zoro, that is retarded. Could that possibly be why nik is saying you are a troll? Why should we trust someone who makes up a character and trolls the board?


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