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Are we the last generation of humans as God made them?
08-27-2010, 08:37 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-27-2010, 08:38 PM by hilly7.)
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Are we the last generation of humans as God made them?
Are we the last generation of humans as God made them?

By Terry James - Raiders News Network

Strange things are afoot at this moment in the world of biological science. The intrigues are made more mystifying by quantum leaps in artificial intelligence.

Adherents of a new spirituality meld and merge secretly with the dark, advancing menace posed by the matters involved. That threat is incalculable to mankind. It is an evil intervention that must, by its very supernatural essence, provoke the judgment of the God of heaven.

Authors Tom and Nita Horn have applied their decades of research and hands-on experience in the sphere of the struggle against "spiritual wickedness in high places" (Ephesians 6:12) to produce this volume of scintillating revelation.

They force to the surface of these troubling days truth about swiftly advancing technologies that, in combination with unseen, otherworldly factors, increasingly challenge the Christian worldview.

For example, they write:

It is an understatement to say that technology often works hand in hand with unseen forces to challenge our faith or to open new channels for spiritual warfare. This has been illustrated in thousands of ways down through time—from the creation of Ouija boards for contacting the spirit world to online pornography gateways. But the current course upon which Grin [genetics, robotics, artificial intelligence, and nanotechnology] technology and transhumanist philosophy are taking mankind threatens to elevate the reality of these dangers to quantitatively higher levels. Some of the spiritual hazards already surfacing as a result of modern technology include unfamiliar terms like "i-dosing," in which teens get "digitally high" by playing specific Internet videos through headphones that use repetitive tones to create binaural beats, which have been shown in clinical studies to induce particular brain wave states that make the sounds appear to come from the center of the head. Shamans have used variations of such repetitive tones and drumming to stimulate and focus the center mind for centuries to make contact with the spirit world and to achieve altered states of reality.

More broadly, the Internet itself, together with increasing forms of electronic information-driven technology, is creating a new kind of addiction by "rewiring our brains," says Nora Volkow, world-renowned brain scientist and director of the National Institute of Drug Abuse.

This generation now finds itself in the time "like the days of [Noah]" Jesus Christ prophesied for the end of the age nearly two thousand years ago: "And as it was in the days of [Noah], so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man" (Luke 17:26).

One doesn’t have to search too deeply through biblical Scripture into the antediluvian time of Noah to find out the primary problem with that generation of earth dwellers: "The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence. And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth" (Genesis 6:11–12).

Sin certainly had caused the degradation of the human condition in the sense that immorality pervaded all of that pre-Flood society. However, the declaration that "it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth" implies contamination of a sort exponentially beyond the spiritual. The "corruption" involves physical degradation at the genetic level. Humankind’s genetic makeup had been corrupted—contaminated—in its most basic construct: at the dna level.

How can this assertion be verified by the biblical record? We look a bit further into the Genesis account: "And God said unto Noah, ‘The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth’" (Genesis 6:13).

The earth dwellers, with the exception of Noah and his seven family members, were obviously in a condition that made them impossible to reach with the message of redemption. The Genesis account almost certainly tells that their "corruption" made them unsalvageable because they were beings that were beyond human. The implications of the scriptural record are staggering.

There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it repented the Lord that He had made man on the earth, and it grieved Him at His heart. And the Lord said, "I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them." (Genesis 6:4–7)

We can legitimately ask: What on earth happened? Did God not look at all that He created and say that it was good? Why, then, was it so "corrupted" that He "repented" that He had created man?

The answer in the larger sense, of course, is that sin happened. With sin and the fall of man came entropy, the degeneration of all things on the planet. Science has it as the second law of thermodynamics: All things decay and degenerate.

So, Adam’s sin brought death and decay.

In the more specific sense, however, "corruption" of a supernaturally inflicted sort afflicted the very genetic makeup—the dna—of humankind when the "sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them."

The sexual unions produced "giants." The scriptural record couldn’t be clearer. Corruption of human genetics, then, apparently was a key reason the earth dwellers were beyond redemption, thus had to be destroyed by the worldwide Flood.

Certain angels who fell in the rebellion with Lucifer determined to produce beings that were without human souls—progeny that, apparently like the angels themselves, were lost forever because they had no chance for redemption and reconciliation with the Creator due to the deliberate decision to rebel. The offspring, Nephilim, were spiritual heirs to their fallen b’nai ha Elohim progenitors.

Again, Jesus, the greatest of all prophets, said it will be like it was in the days of these hideous, part-human, part-angelic creatures at the time of His Second Advent. Add to the return of the supernatural interlopers the geometrically progressing advances in computer-enhanced interjection into man's genetic mix, and the prophetic picture comes into stark focus. This is where Tom and Nita Horn shine brilliant investigative illumination, exposing the "spiritual wickedness in high places" of these strange, troubling times in which we live. They spotlight the humanistic and scientific diabolists who seek to spread their domination over planet earth. They particularly direct the light of truth upon the minions who are once again investing all possible effort within their evil supernatural power to mingle their seed with the seed of humankind.

The authors write in regard to how all of this might affect humankind: "How brain-machine-interfacing will multiply this divide between human-to-human relationships via human-machine integration is of substantial concern for several reasons.... The real danger, though it may be entirely unavoidable for some, will be the loss of individuality, anonymity, privacy, and even free will as a result of cybernetic integration."

Transhumans and chimera of sinister species-tampering are not the stuff of science fiction; rather, they are clandestinely present today, according to the findings that burst forth from the authors’ exhaustive research. The neo-Nephilim/transhuman hybrids might be as near as the next door neighbor—if not at this moment, almost certainly in the very near future.

Learn more about Tom & Nita Horn's groundbreaking new book in the video below plus sign up to be notified when it is released an receive over $80.00 in Free Gifts by visiting here:

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08-28-2010, 11:44 AM, (This post was last modified: 08-29-2010, 09:22 PM by JazzRoc.)
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RE: Are we the last generation of humans as God made them?
No, for we weren't "made" by a god in the first place.
We have to make our way as we go along - there are no prescriptions for where we are going.
"Life is the Universe's way of knowing itself" - Sagan.
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08-28-2010, 12:04 PM,
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RE: Are we the last generation of humans as God made them?
looks like we are hitting another similar vein jazzSmile

ORDO AB CHAO - the ultimate description of evolution....
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08-28-2010, 06:01 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-28-2010, 06:02 PM by crystal.)
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RE: Are we the last generation of humans as God made them?
Yes. God made vaccinations, chemtrails and msg to make us strong and beautiful too. Look how bright and beautiful our society is today!!!!
(sarcasm)

This is an important point. Thanks for posting Hilly. I think the attempts to keep us seperate from our maker is the main reason why we have all this pollution on our spirit.
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08-28-2010, 07:44 PM,
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RE: Are we the last generation of humans as God made them?
Your welcome. Funny he quotes Carl Pagan... did I spell that right?

No worries, I view his input about on the same lines as OTO & Starjade. LOL
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08-29-2010, 09:21 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-29-2010, 09:30 PM by JazzRoc.)
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RE: Are we the last generation of humans as God made them?
(08-28-2010, 06:01 PM)crystal Wrote: seperate
Separate.


(08-28-2010, 07:44 PM)hilly7 Wrote: I view his input about on the same lines as OTO & Starjade.
When a fly crawls across my screen you spring to mind, but I have a swatter nearby.

Transhumanism? A bridge too far...

In this case I believe the pseudoscientists and creationists amongst you have to cross a trans-APE-ist bridge first.

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08-29-2010, 09:54 PM,
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RE: Are we the last generation of humans as God made them?
It's all good JR. Coming from you I'll take that as a compliment. Swatter, lol. LOL Flies bite big boy, especially little men with little swatters. LOL
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08-30-2010, 12:22 AM,
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RE: Are we the last generation of humans as God made them?
JR, you are such an idol worshipper LOL you really need to see through that mental image you have of 'God'. try substituting nature for God, or evolution, or the universal grand symphony... or whatever.

re the question: Are we the last generation of humans as God made them?

the answer is no, because to answer yes implies that humanity exists outside of nature. it's a logical progression: if we are intrinsically part of nature, then everything we do must also be part of nature. there is no escape, whatever we make of ourselves, it is part and inseparable from our evolution/journey. all part of 'God's divine plan' Love005

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08-31-2010, 03:49 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-31-2010, 03:58 PM by JazzRoc.)
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RE: Are we the last generation of humans as God made them?
(08-29-2010, 09:54 PM)hilly7 Wrote: It's all good JR. Coming from you I'll take that as a compliment. Swatter, lol. LOL Flies bite big boy, especially little men with little swatters. LOL
You would have laughed at me holidaying in the lakes north of Toronto, running around with a humming swarm of powerful deerflies (they were tough and brightly-colored and looked as though they had been injection-molded in Taiwan) following just out of arm's reach just BEHIND me.
I psyched them out by painting two large eyes on the back of my hat and whacking them with an electric bat as they swung around to my front.
The electric bat had little effect except to reduce their eagerness to bite.
I could be repeating myself here...


(08-30-2010, 12:22 AM)mothandrust Wrote: JR, you are such an idol worshipper, you really need to see through that mental image you have of 'God'. try substituting nature for God, or evolution, or the universal grand symphony... or whatever.
re the question: Are we the last generation of humans as God made them?
the answer is no, because to answer yes implies that humanity exists outside of nature. it's a logical progression: if we are intrinsically part of nature, then everything we do must also be part of nature. there is no escape, whatever we make of ourselves, it is part and inseparable from our evolution/journey. all part of 'God's divine plan'
Guilty. I'm still mad about being conned, obviously. After 54 years... Smile
And of course, your logic runs. Where's that razor?
Here's the razor by video:





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09-01-2010, 12:33 PM,
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RE: Are we the last generation of humans as God made them?
The video tries to be scientific but ends up being vague by injecting subjective and simply bashes his view of a 'typical' Christian as he subjectively interprets that contextual definition. He's not alone, the church does this too for a variety of reasons. He zeroes in on this obvious flaw and viscerally beats down his strawman.

He hijacked the biblical teaching of "love one another" and framed it as empathy to support his argument. In fact he doesn't mention the word love even once in the entire diatribe. It is mentioned 610 times in the KJV Bible. In my opinion love is synonymous with morality. He does however centre arguments around how the bible frowns upon homosexual acts on a couple of occasions his case around which is not mentioned once by name (gay is mentioned twice though but as happy). It's important to put these often misinterpreted verses in context as they refer to orgies, bestiality, ritual sex and paedophilia.

I liked his "ought to" rant though but then turns it around to say it's paramount purpose is for society to benefit as a whole and omits mentioning personal liberties. Hardly an original ideology nor one that holds free will in very high regard.

I'm no thumper and we all know the bible has been revised and used to control society but it contains some good guidance within. No need to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

This audio book would present your case better JazzRoc. It rambles at times but this anarchist atheist preacher makes a superior, but not perfect, argument IMO. I'm waiting to hear back from him on how IP would apply to UPB.

Universally Preferable Behaviour (UPB) : A Rational Proof of Secular Ethics by Stefan Molyneux
http://concen.org/tracker/torrents-details.php?id=17926

Personally I tend to follow some basic guidelines to define my personal thesis on morality and attempt to follow it as best I can and learn from it and rectify any harm inflicted on others or myself when I waver. Here's my cheat sheet.

Chastity in opposition to Lust
Abstaining from sexual conduct according to one's state in life; the practice of Courtly love and Romantic friendship. Cleanliness through cultivated good health and hygiene, and maintained by refraining from intoxicants. To be honest with oneself, one's family, one's friends, and to all of humanity. Embracing of moral wholesomeness and achieving purity of thought through education and betterment. The ability to refrain from being distracted and influenced by hostility, temptation or corruption.

Temperance in resistance to Gluttony
Restraint. Temperance. Justice. Constant mindfulness of others and one's surroundings; practicing self-control, abstention, moderation, Zero-sum and Deferred gratification. Prudence to judge between actions with regard to appropriate actions at a given time. Proper moderation between self-interest, versus public-interest, and against the rights and needs of others.

Charity in aversion to Greed
In Christian theology charity, or love (agäpé), is the greatest of the three theological virtues. Love, in this sense of an unlimited loving-kindness towards all others. An intentional response to promote well-being when responding to that which has generated ill-being.

Diligence to eradicate Sloth
A zealous and careful nature in one's actions and work. Decisive work ethic. Steadfastness in belief. Fortitude and the capability of not giving up. Budgeting one's time; monitoring one's own activities to guard against laziness. Upholding one’s convictions at all times, especially when no one else is watching; Integrity.

Patience to combat Wrath
Forbearance and endurance through moderation. Resolving conflicts and injustice peacefully, as opposed to resorting to violence. The ability to forgive; to show mercy. Not killing or being violent in any way to any life form or sentient being; to practice moderation of meat consumption and consistent life ethic. Creating a sense of peaceful stability and community, rather than engendering suffering, hostility and antagonism.

Kindness as the antithesis of Envy
Charity, compassion and friendship for its own sake. Empathy and trust (as a default) without prejudice or resentment. Unconditional love and voluntary kindness without bias or spite. Having positive outlook and cheerful demeanor; to inspire kindness in others.

Humility in defiance of Pride
Modest behavior, selflessness, and the giving of respect. The courage of the heart necessary to undertake tasks which are difficult, tedious or unglamorous, and to graciously accept the sacrifices involved when a cause would serve a net benefit. Reverence in the form of respect, encouragement and acknowledgement but never idolatry for those who have wisdom and those who selflessly teach in love. Giving credit where credit is due; not unfairly glorifying one's own self. Being faithful to personal promises, no matter how big or small they may be. Refraining from despair and the ability to confront fear and uncertainty, or intimidation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_virtues
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09-01-2010, 12:45 PM, (This post was last modified: 09-01-2010, 12:51 PM by mothandrust.)
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RE: Are we the last generation of humans as God made them?
(08-31-2010, 03:49 PM)JazzRoc Wrote:
(08-30-2010, 12:22 AM)mothandrust Wrote: JR, you are such an idol worshipper, you really need to see through that mental image you have of 'God'. try substituting nature for God, or evolution, or the universal grand symphony... or whatever.
re the question: Are we the last generation of humans as God made them?
the answer is no, because to answer yes implies that humanity exists outside of nature. it's a logical progression: if we are intrinsically part of nature, then everything we do must also be part of nature. there is no escape, whatever we make of ourselves, it is part and inseparable from our evolution/journey. all part of 'God's divine plan'
Guilty. I'm still mad about being conned, obviously. After 54 years... Smile
And of course, your logic runs. Where's that razor?
Here's the razor by video:

well i watched the vid (despite being on my mum's 'pay as you go') it's ok, nothing i can particularly disagree with, but i think he is taking a narrow minded perspective on Christianity - not that many/most Christians don't also do this - but as a consequence he falls into the very same trap Big Grin

his arguments, whilst not wrong per se, are simplistic and rationalising, and i, like Rousseau, do not believe in reason. i also do not accept the thinking behind Occam's Razor - the moment you start slicing bits off the complete picture is lost.

edit: nicly articulated FT, didn't see your response initially cos i was watching the vid and composing my own reply,
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09-01-2010, 01:04 PM,
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RE: Are we the last generation of humans as God made them?
Quote:I also do not accept the thinking behind Occam's Razor - the moment you start slicing bits off the complete picture is lost.

Completely accurate for analysis that employs this exclusively but this method can help gain perspectives in depicting the entire picture with a more cohesive clarity.

Perspective changes perception which essentially redraws the picture. There is no single connotation of a picture, only its subjective interpretation to the beholder(s) at any given time and angle. A truly comprehensive analysis considers as many angles and slices as possible.
There are no others, there is only us.
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09-01-2010, 01:25 PM,
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RE: Are we the last generation of humans as God made them?
I believe that the video I watched on this (Tranhumanism) is the one below. It all sounds nice and good until you hear the ones in the lead talk about who deserves to be repaired and improved. I would imagine that nobody here, even the ones who serve them, will be on that list. Hope turns to scary when you see what they are actually doing this for. Tom Horn starts his feature of this on the 3rd of 19, I'm starting it on the first one. After watching this it will become clear just what this is for.

FasTadpole, the reason you are not finding anything on homosexuality is the term you are searching, "gay". Gay does mean happy. The correct tern is Gai. Gai is a term used for young males actors who played female parts in Shakespeare's plays. This is why women cannot be gay. So says a friend of mine that is gai. What you are looking for is here:

Quote:"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination" (Leviticus 18:22). "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them" (Leviticus 20:13).

9Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
1 Corinthians 6, 9-10

Now the flick that is made that covers the REAL ISSUES of this new science. Be sure, especially towards the middle, to see what those that are financing this say about who deserves and who does not deserve this breakthrough.



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09-01-2010, 05:03 PM, (This post was last modified: 09-01-2010, 05:25 PM by mothandrust.)
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(09-01-2010, 01:04 PM)FastTadpole Wrote:
Quote:I also do not accept the thinking behind Occam's Razor - the moment you start slicing bits off the complete picture is lost.

Completely accurate for analysis that employs this exclusively but this method can help gain perspectives in depicting the entire picture with a more cohesive clarity.

Perspective changes perception which essentially redraws the picture. There is no single connotation of a picture, only its subjective interpretation to the beholder(s) at any given time and angle. A truly comprehensive analysis considers as many angles and slices as possible.

agreed

i remember nik started a thread on transhumanism a year back - http://concen.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=1957 it's a fascinating subject, but personally i'm not buying. it'll just be another reason for more fuck-ups. i trust Nature/God/Truth over man, particularly unenlightened westen academic man any day.
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09-18-2010, 09:30 PM,
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RE: Are we the last generation of humans as God made them?
(09-01-2010, 01:04 PM)FastTadpole Wrote:
Quote:I also do not accept the thinking behind Occam's Razor - the moment you start slicing bits off the complete picture is lost.

Completely accurate for analysis that employs this exclusively but this method can help gain perspectives in depicting the entire picture with a more cohesive clarity.

Perspective changes perception which essentially redraws the picture. There is no single connotation of a picture, only its subjective interpretation to the beholder(s) at any given time and angle. A truly comprehensive analysis considers as many angles and slices as possible.
I couldn't agree more.
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