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September Clues Addendum Chapter 1
08-31-2010, 04:16 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-31-2010, 04:18 PM by icosaface.)
#46
RE: September Clues Addendum Chapter 1
jr said
``The terrorists' behavior is excusable: yours isn't. You live in a sophisticated society which practices science and technology and strives for a full understanding of the material world, and fill your stomach as a consequence. But you don't respect it, or the scientists and engineers that made it. You ARE a useless eater, indeed, exactly like the people you condemn.``

Blah blah blah psyop boy. I smell herrings, red ones.

jr said
``So this isn't the evidence?
http://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/ai...artsnyc911
Would you want 1/2 million tons of steel kept in a museum? NO. And it would pleasure me to kick your bullshit right back up your ass.
You believe that it was thermited, I know, and the "proof" was thus concealed. But you only believe that because you lack both wisdom and imagination and respect for those experienced engineers and scientists that have already provided a reasonable explanation for a destruction event which by its very nature was impossible to fully itemize. Jones and his crowd, whose words you cling to, are a tiny minority of fools (which always occur), but you'd rather ignore the 99% and go for the 1% that share your delusion. There's always 1% that will say ANYTHING for their 15 minutes of fame, but you haven't even THAT excuse.``

You keep the evidence until the investigation has been completed. Pretend you are intelligent enough to understand the concept of a thorough investigation. Another BS answer from the supposedly scientifically trained psyop goof. Red herrings and strawmen abound in your posts as usual.

jr said
``The HOLE? You mean the AIRCRAFT-SHAPED HOLE formed RANDOMLY by "INTERNAL IMPLOSION" - TWICE?
The picture that is a detail of shows the building brewing up a building-wide fire. The angled airplane strike carved a "chimney" between three floors and blew out ALL the floor partitions, cutting an obvious route for the progression of the fire. You can SEE this. Flowing beneath the insulation-stripped ceilings was an air mass several HUNDRED degrees hotter than the temperature at which the steelwork SOFTENS.
"SOFTENING" means LOSING ITS STRENGTH back down to the strength of aluminum. This ONLY had to happen where the ceiling line met the wall line, everywhere, for it to be IRRECOVERABLE.
But the building was already weakened and out-of-shape. A ten-fold load factor was in the process of disappearing.
Why do I bother? You've ALREADY MADE YOUR MIND UP, and have already ignored the thousands of small clues which demonstrate that EVERYONE left alive anywhere was CLUELESS as to what was going to happen next.
The way you idiots treat the real-time 911 media response makes this QUITE obvious.
You disgust me.``

More red herrings and strawmen laced with inuendo and unsupported assertions. Congratulations psyop boy, you`ve totally outed yourself.
An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it.
Mohandas Gandhi


Each of us is put here in this time and this place to personally decide the future of humankind.
Did you think you were put here for something less?
Chief Arvol Looking Horse
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08-31-2010, 04:39 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-31-2010, 10:13 PM by JazzRoc.)
#47
RE: September Clues Addendum Chapter 1
(08-31-2010, 04:16 PM)icosaface Wrote: Blah blah blah psyop boy. I smell herrings, red ones.
Content-free.
Then you ignore this.:
http://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/ai...artsnyc911
Then this:
Quote:You keep the evidence until the investigation has been completed. Pretend you are intelligent enough to understand the concept of a thorough investigation. Another BS answer from the supposedly scientifically trained psyop goof. Red herrings and strawmen abound in your posts as usual.
More red herrings and strawmen laced with inuendo and unsupported assertions. Congratulations psyop boy, you've totally outed yourself.
No, congratulations must surely go to you. You addressed NOTHING AT ALL this time. You didn't even bother to LIE again as you did before.
Useless sucker.



Like the above, you all died out in 2007.
I'm just naive, innocent, and late on THIS scene.
You died of the truth you tried so desperately to conceal: that the whole of your case hinged on concealed lies, and these have been revealed, apparently for three years now. These being some of the revealing sites (they really don't like liars, can't think why):
http://www.youtube.com/user/RKOwens4
http://www.911myths.com
http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com
http://www.debunking911.com
http://youarenotsosmart.com/2010/06/03/misinformation-effect/
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09-01-2010, 12:31 AM,
#48
RE: September Clues Addendum Chapter 1
jr said
"Then you ignore this.:
http://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/ai...artsnyc911 "

The link doesn't go anywhere.

Didn't watch the video past the first minute because it was not relevant, all I saw was strawman and red herrings tactics.
You've underdone yourself again psyop boy.
An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it.
Mohandas Gandhi


Each of us is put here in this time and this place to personally decide the future of humankind.
Did you think you were put here for something less?
Chief Arvol Looking Horse
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09-01-2010, 01:25 AM,
#49
RE: September Clues Addendum Chapter 1
Quote:
Nic , - Let Me clarify something for You :

- Analyzing FAKE videos or photoshopped pictures , bringing in 'testimonies' of false witnesses that's what the 9/11 truth movements are all about and that's what makes the 'movement' or ALL the perp sponsored 'movements' go in circles . . .

On a sunny day any square building has 2 adjacent sides that are getting directional light from the Sun . - Let's call them the BRIGHT sides .
- 2 other sides are getting ambient light ONLY and let them be known as DARK sides . .

- The towers at WTC plaza were PERFECTLY parallel to each other.

[Image: securedownload?mid=1_2303_AJNVimIAASJKTH...0ePngPfA--]

[Image: securedownload?mid=1_2303_AJNVimIAASJKTH...evEuL17A--]




- On the left is NORTH tower (see the ANTENNA) . .

. . about to be hit by first 767 at 8:46 AM . .
( the picture is from Naudet video practically the ONLY video showing the ' first hit' )
- As You can see , THAT NORTHERN side of the North tower is in the SHADOW or the DARK side . .
- That WOULD mean that the EAST and SOUTH sides of the towers are the BRIGHT sides or the sides getting direct Sunlight at 8:46 AM . .

- Now , - Look at the picture on the right from Hezarkani video . .

The SOUTH side of the SOUTH tower is about to be 'hit' . . .

. . and it's in the SHADOW ! . .
- and the 'official' time is 9:03 AM . .

. . 17 minutes later
and the Sun travels from EAST to WEST or . . clockwise . .


- That WOULD also mean that the at 9:03 AM . .

. . or 17 minutes later the EAST and NORTH sides of both towers are getting direct Sunlight ;-)

. . . Depends on the 'artist ' . . .

- There is more . .




- See the North Tower (with antenna ) ?

Now , minutes after the 'impact' , the NORTH side is getting direct Sunlight along with the EAST side . .


- Below , the south tower will be hit on The BRIGHT side


- According to this artist , - the south tower will be hit on The BRIGHT side . .

- . . Hezarkhani thought , it's easier to 'hit' the dark side .
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09-01-2010, 11:56 AM, (This post was last modified: 09-01-2010, 12:24 PM by JazzRoc.)
#50
RE: September Clues Addendum Chapter 1
(09-01-2010, 12:31 AM)icosaface Wrote: The link doesn't go anywhere
Not HERE, then?

[Image: links4911.jpg]

Shame. I wonder what else you missed.

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09-01-2010, 06:22 PM,
#51
RE: September Clues Addendum Chapter 1
lol. makes me laugh. falacy 101

"January, 2009: As promised, many of the 9/11 Commission investigation records have been made public. There is a wealth of material online, with more to come. Contrary to William Rodriguez' repeated claims that his June, 2004 interview with Commission staffers was covered up, the staffers' notes of that interview are now public. Mike Williams of 911myths.com has obtained, scanned, and made available those notes here and here (pdfs). Rodriguez has said that his story hasn't changed since day one, yet in this interview, as with his statement to NIST, he makes no mention of suspicions of bombs in the basement, of suspicions that the attacks were a U.S. government "inside job" that was covered-up, or that his accounts were ever censored by the media. See my thorough examination of these claims here."

this is a prime way to make the person saying that his story was not told or covered up, to look like he is a lier. Please note that they use the OFFICIAL NOTES to describe this mans statement. even though he has already said they have not represented him correctly. THIS IS PROOF!!!!

Jazz if you will cling to these guys, please take note of the language used. Now go and read a website by a no-planer or a chem-trailer. see the correlation?
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09-01-2010, 06:36 PM, (This post was last modified: 09-01-2010, 06:36 PM by nik.)
#52
RE: September Clues Addendum Chapter 1
trying to save your bacon?
(09-01-2010, 01:25 AM)nik Wrote:
Quote:
Nic , - Let Me clarify something for You :

- Analyzing FAKE videos or photoshopped pictures , bringing in 'testimonies' of false witnesses that's what the 9/11 truth movements are all about and that's what makes the 'movement' or ALL the perp sponsored 'movements' go in circles . . .

On a sunny day any square building has 2 adjacent sides that are getting directional light from the Sun . - Let's call them the BRIGHT sides .
- 2 other sides are getting ambient light ONLY and let them be known as DARK sides . .

- The towers at WTC plaza were PERFECTLY parallel to each other.

[Image: securedownload?mid=1_2303_AJNVimIAASJKTH...0ePngPfA--]

[Image: securedownload?mid=1_2303_AJNVimIAASJKTH...evEuL17A--]




- On the left is NORTH tower (see the ANTENNA) . .

. . about to be hit by first 767 at 8:46 AM . .
( the picture is from Naudet video practically the ONLY video showing the ' first hit' )
- As You can see , THAT NORTHERN side of the North tower is in the SHADOW or the DARK side . .
- That WOULD mean that the EAST and SOUTH sides of the towers are the BRIGHT sides or the sides getting direct Sunlight at 8:46 AM . .

- Now , - Look at the picture on the right from Hezarkani video . .

The SOUTH side of the SOUTH tower is about to be 'hit' . . .

. . and it's in the SHADOW ! . .
- and the 'official' time is 9:03 AM . .

. . 17 minutes later
and the Sun travels from EAST to WEST or . . clockwise . .


- That WOULD also mean that the at 9:03 AM . .

. . or 17 minutes later the EAST and NORTH sides of both towers are getting direct Sunlight ;-)

. . . Depends on the 'artist ' . . .

- There is more . .




- See the North Tower (with antenna ) ?

Now , minutes after the 'impact' , the NORTH side is getting direct Sunlight along with the EAST side . .


- Below , the south tower will be hit on The BRIGHT side


- According to this artist , - the south tower will be hit on The BRIGHT side . .

- . . Hezarkhani thought , it's easier to 'hit' the dark side .

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09-02-2010, 01:13 AM,
#53
RE: September Clues Addendum Chapter 1
(09-01-2010, 11:56 AM)JazzRoc Wrote:
(09-01-2010, 12:31 AM)icosaface Wrote: The link doesn't go anywhere
Not HERE, then?

[Image: links4911.jpg]

Shame. I wonder what else you missed.
i'd always thought you were brighter and more open minded than that JR, i won't treat your contributions with such seriousness in future. shame.


Vitam Impendere Vero
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09-02-2010, 01:34 AM, (This post was last modified: 09-02-2010, 01:42 AM by JazzRoc.)
#54
RE: September Clues Addendum Chapter 1
Nik, your point isn't understandable. Falsified images? If so, then evidence of falsified images...
The plane-shaped hole IN THE TOWER ITSELF? INCONTROVERTIBLE evidence of plane...
Unprotected steel needs no thermate to fail, especially when there was a chimneyed fire (up the shafts - I hadn't really noticed how much before) through dozens of floors above the WTC 1 strike.
It was just a matter of time. Had it been in windless conditions, undamaged and perfectly square and erect, I reckon WTC might have remained standing even though weakened by the fire. But it was f----d, and had pitched forward over its wound. Tick-tock...
With its lower strike position, WTC 2 had NO chance.
The very first starting failure would be a single bolt. Every small consequent movement had a multiple consequence of its own thereafter.
Due to the out-of-squareness, EACH individual event would have its brief fifteen nanoseconds of "fame" as it received the FULL "attention" of the momentum of the top of the tower. After the next floor NO individual structural item that met it would ever be in one piece again.
Your ship engineer friend had discovered a vertical form of Zeno's Paradox. No matter. He'd couldn't handle "ocean liners" doing 45m/s and accelerating at 0.75G. That's no surprise, is it?


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09-02-2010, 01:41 AM,
#55
RE: September Clues Addendum Chapter 1
You see how the psyop proceeds eh? It just glosses right over any facts that negate its viewpoint. It makes up facts and declares them known to all and sundry and that anyone who disputes the manufactured facts is "with the terrorists".
'
An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it.
Mohandas Gandhi


Each of us is put here in this time and this place to personally decide the future of humankind.
Did you think you were put here for something less?
Chief Arvol Looking Horse
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09-02-2010, 02:35 AM, (This post was last modified: 09-02-2010, 02:40 AM by nik.)
#56
RE: September Clues Addendum Chapter 1
exactly icosa


look at the email i received, jazzroc and do the homework to check out it's contention before coming back here to load on some irrelevant engineering hokum on top of it.

It was a DIRECT answer to your "women spotted in 'plane shaped hole' " repetitive single issue tactic --- there, i ANSWERED your question -- so why now change the subject eh? rhetorical.

Any fool knows the sun doesn't fly across it's arc in minutes.

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09-02-2010, 10:23 AM, (This post was last modified: 09-02-2010, 11:25 AM by JazzRoc.)
#57
RE: September Clues Addendum Chapter 1
(09-02-2010, 01:41 AM)icosaface Wrote: You see how the psyop proceeds eh? It just glosses right over any facts
Hypocrisy overload with the plane-shaped hole!
I bet you I despise you MORE than you possibly could me.
Stepping back a little, isn't it possible for you to see ANOTHER motive for falsifying imagery, or are you just permanently WEDGED into position?
And that plane-shaped hole was a fabrication? And ALL your elaborate Rube Goldberg speculations. Which are they? Do you go for the Star Wars destructor beam or the concealed nanothermate paint job done when these buildings were built? Are there more? Over time, I bet there are...
The truth of it is that your journey has been a long one of your NEVER having spotted the exact microsecond when you passed from sanity to delusion at each analytical decision/fork in your roads travelled, so there's no way anyone else can bring you back.
The writing's on the walls. Both tower walls...

It says "A 767 passed this way" and "You are deluded".

Here a HIRES version of the tower strike. Best viewed in its original format.




All truther arguments tend to disappear when the resolution is increased.

It's only a personal observation, I know, but I have been a keen watcher of science-fiction movies, war movies, modern action/scifi movies, all the StarTreks, Farscape, the last Galactica, and if the above is a SIMULATION, then it is indeed the FINEST I have ever seen.

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09-02-2010, 03:35 PM,
#58
RE: September Clues Addendum Chapter 1
Just to set the record straight that you have obfuscated, and /or fabricated,I never said that planes didn't hit the towers, I said I didn't know what hit the towers because the videos were of poor quality or appeared to have been doctored.
The video you posted above shows a plane that has a tube on the underbelly stretching from the tail to the cockpit, is that a standard piece of equipment for commercial airlines 767s?
Your attempt to equate the issue of what hit the towers as being the only problem that "truthers" have with the official conspiracy myths
is feeble minded drivel.
I don't despise you, I don't even know whether you are a singular person or an organization of disinformists.
An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it.
Mohandas Gandhi


Each of us is put here in this time and this place to personally decide the future of humankind.
Did you think you were put here for something less?
Chief Arvol Looking Horse
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09-02-2010, 08:43 PM, (This post was last modified: 09-02-2010, 08:46 PM by kevlar.)
#59
RE: September Clues Addendum Chapter 1
That is not a plane shaped hole. It might be in the shape of a plane but unless the plane is coyote and the building is made out of acme steel and concrete then a plane would not vanish into the building and leave a massive hole. You know what would do that ? a missile and explosives or explosives alone. Is that much of a big deal to think that considering they had the building wired up for controlled demo that making an explosion on the side of the building would not be such a difficult task.

lets look at the pictures

[Image: toostraight.jpg]

The only thing that could make such straight cuts in fireproof steel is cutter chargers or high explosives on one floor that has blown outwards. Please note the straightness of the steel cuts, that is obviously due to it being on a specific floor but a plane impact can not explain that.

[Image: 2hole.jpg]

The red circle indicates the initial impact that could not have been made by the fuselage because the noes would have crumpled and the fuselage would have not made a hole over multiple floors of steel and concrete.

There is no way of verifying if this is a real shot of the hole. It could have looked different. There is a very limited amount of photos of the hole itself.
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09-02-2010, 09:01 PM,
#60
RE: September Clues Addendum Chapter 1
You have a point there kevlar, thanks for bringing it out.
An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it.
Mohandas Gandhi


Each of us is put here in this time and this place to personally decide the future of humankind.
Did you think you were put here for something less?
Chief Arvol Looking Horse
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