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How much do the Jew haters know about 9/11?
08-02-2010, 10:43 PM,
#76
RE: How much do the Jew haters know about 9/11?
(08-02-2010, 09:15 PM)triplesix Wrote: People should have moved beyond the inflammatory language, as is done for others on a daily basis, and intelligently posited arguments for or against Israeli or Jewish American collusion on 9/11 . . .
I completely agree, sort of. OTO started with the implicit assertion that people who think there was Israeli involvement in 9-11 are full of shit. Then he bait and switched to a completely unrelated topic of Hamas and purportedly staged news accounts there. None of that has anything to do with 9-11, unless he's claiming that 9-11 was a Hamas hoax to blame Israel secretly in the conspiracy scene. Huh Furthermore, since he's making the claim that neo-Nazis are propagandizing people with bullshit the burden is on OTO to show how any of the 9-11 Israel related info is propaganda. I haven't seen word one from him on the issue though just deflection and off-topic. There's a ton of information out there he could be calling into question to make a case with and I'm still waiting to see some. You have a misapprehension about how a debate functions though. The initial burden is on the person making the assertion which in this case is OTO. What propaganda are "Jew-haters" spreading about Israeli involvement in 9-11? Nothing useful can result until he at least clarifies that basic point of his position.
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08-02-2010, 10:51 PM,
#77
RE: How much do the Jew haters know about 9/11?
Yep, this one went down the tubes. Then again, sometimes the truth hurts. I may have taken it wrong but from where I saw it, it was either agree with me or be a Nazi. Mixed with this is true because I say it is true, look into my eyes, your getting sleeper and sleeper.
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08-02-2010, 11:09 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-02-2010, 11:10 PM by triplesix.)
#78
RE: How much do the Jew haters know about 9/11?
I'm not totally defending OTO, don't get me wrong, but the thread just seemed like a challenge to me, and while people may be expecting OTO to start the debate, I think he was anticipating a different flavor of protest from a different demographic of ConCen.

Perhaps he would have been more successful bringing up a specific grievance but I think from the language of the OP it was clear that was not his intention.

It just seems to me a lot of people took this thread personally, when I think OTO was just trying to bait anti-Semites to reveal themselves, whether or not any truly exist here is debatable. Most people seemed to read this thread as one calling everyone anti-Semitic and that the thread was stupid for that reason and I just don't believe that was the OP's intention with the thread.

Maybe I'm resented for being the pussy diplomat, but the in-fighting at ConCen is sad these days.
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08-02-2010, 11:17 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-02-2010, 11:19 PM by nik.)
#79
RE: How much do the Jew haters know about 9/11?
(08-02-2010, 11:09 PM)triplesix Wrote: Maybe I'm resented for being the pussy diplomat, but the in-fighting at ConCen is sad these days.


ah well, dry your eyes, at least you are not just a pointless twat.

diplomats are usually diplomatic to all,not just the people they personally favour.

i further see a problem arising in that you deem your interpretation of OTO's intentions as being tantamount to fact, when in actuality you are just guessing, if the tone of your outpourings are anything to weight that by.

Although it would not surprise me much if OTO suddenly said: yes, that is exactly what i meant to do - everyone else on the thread misunderstood, only triple6 got it!

Quote:I'm not totally defending OTO, don't get me wrong,

An example of anything to the contrary on this thread, please.



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08-03-2010, 12:31 AM, (This post was last modified: 08-03-2010, 12:55 AM by mothandrust.)
#80
RE: How much do the Jew haters know about 9/11?
personally i think there's millions of OTO types trolling the internet on behalf of the Israelis/Zionists/NWO... whatever. time wasting, creating discord, pumping out cheap propaganda from above funded websites, that is shown as a tissue of lies with only the minimum research. it's an industry, efficient, well funded, with 'believers': so you will never change their minds.

look back up the posting list and think of the wasted hours and emotions of (although i may not agree with them) serious and commited thinkers and researchers over a set of bollocks questions designed to create argument, not answer. if proof were needed check out how many people actually voted in the fucking stupid poll! a handful, and at least one of them is a joke! any serious poll usually generates at least as many votes as posts.

OTO must be pissing himself LOL
congrats man

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08-03-2010, 01:31 AM,
#81
RE: How much do the Jew haters know about 9/11?
(08-02-2010, 11:17 PM)nik Wrote:
(08-02-2010, 11:09 PM)triplesix Wrote: Maybe I'm resented for being the pussy diplomat, but the in-fighting at ConCen is sad these days.
ah well, dry your eyes, at least you are not just a pointless twat.
You are not a pointless twat, you are a twat without point. What has you up in arms about my posts today? For fucks sake Nik you got a fuckin problem with me spit it out. Posts like this do what for the forum exactly, 'cept make your lonely ass feel better. Fuck you. As mothandrust said no thy enemy because they divide and conquer. You are doing all the dividing up necessary because you drew a line in this thread and threw me on the other side. Why Nik, what is your fuckin point?
(08-02-2010, 11:17 PM)nik Wrote: i further see a problem arising in that you deem your interpretation of OTO's intentions as being tantamount to fact, when in actuality you are just guessing, if the tone of your outpourings are anything to weight that by.
And your interpretation is correct by what measure? Hypocrite.
(08-02-2010, 11:17 PM)nik Wrote: Although it would not surprise me much if OTO suddenly said: yes, that is exactly what i meant to do - everyone else on the thread misunderstood, only triple6 got it!
And if it were true? Maybe I do have it all wrong and the guy is a troll, fuckin sue me. What if he's just a normal guy trying to discuss 9/11 and he went about it the wrong way. Fuck Nik your adminship has destroyed this site.

Never had I needed to take such long walks away from this site than when your ego gets bruised and people question your perception of reality. Fuck I didn't question your opinion on this thread and you jump down my throat. I just think five pages of "this guy is a jackass" is obsessive for a random post and it makes the forum look stupid.
Quote:I'm not totally defending OTO, don't get me wrong,
An example of anything to the contrary on this thread, please.[/quote]
What again is your ever-loving point? I think the response was disproportionate not that the OP was valid! I'm defending the right to dissenting opinion otherwise this shouldn't be a forum it should just be a web page or a blog.[/align]



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08-03-2010, 03:10 AM, (This post was last modified: 08-03-2010, 03:54 AM by nik.)
#82
RE: How much do the Jew haters know about 9/11?
(08-03-2010, 01:31 AM)triplesix Wrote:
(08-02-2010, 11:17 PM)nik Wrote:
(08-02-2010, 11:09 PM)triplesix Wrote: Maybe I'm resented for being the pussy diplomat, but the in-fighting at ConCen is sad these days.
ah well, dry your eyes, at least you are not just a pointless twat.
You are not a pointless twat, you are a twat without point. What has you up in arms about my posts today? For fucks sake Nik you got a fuckin problem with me spit it out. Posts like this do what for the forum exactly, 'cept make your lonely ass feel better. Fuck you. As mothandrust said no thy enemy because they divide and conquer. You are doing all the dividing up necessary because you drew a line in this thread and threw me on the other side. Why Nik, what is your fuckin point?
(08-02-2010, 11:17 PM)nik Wrote: i further see a problem arising in that you deem your interpretation of OTO's intentions as being tantamount to fact, when in actuality you are just guessing, if the tone of your outpourings are anything to weight that by.
And your interpretation is correct by what measure? Hypocrite.
(08-02-2010, 11:17 PM)nik Wrote: Although it would not surprise me much if OTO suddenly said: yes, that is exactly what i meant to do - everyone else on the thread misunderstood, only triple6 got it!
And if it were true? Maybe I do have it all wrong and the guy is a troll, fuckin sue me. What if he's just a normal guy trying to discuss 9/11 and he went about it the wrong way. Fuck Nik your adminship has destroyed this site.

Never had I needed to take such long walks away from this site than when your ego gets bruised and people question your perception of reality. Fuck I didn't question your opinion on this thread and you jump down my throat. I just think five pages of "this guy is a jackass" is obsessive for a random post and it makes the forum look stupid.
Quote:I'm not totally defending OTO, don't get me wrong,
An example of anything to the contrary on this thread, please.
Quote:What again is your ever-loving point? I think the response was disproportionate not that the OP was valid! I'm defending the right to dissenting opinion otherwise this shouldn't be a forum it should just be a web page or a blog.

nik Wrote:http://concen.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=34133

http://concen.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=34133

One thing I did do when I was an admin is try and foster varied opinion.

I felt OTO made a bullshit thread - seems like the majority posters on that thread felt so too - but apparently in your world it was just me wrecking the site Rolleyes

i'm not a forum admin you silly muppet - ask other admins - I resigned a fair while ago from the duty - and seeing as how you like to make it personal: "Fuck Nik your adminship has destroyed this site."

Let's be straight here - Ctrl asked me to be an admin during Autumn/Fall of 2007 - initially I refused the offer and then agreed - you thought you were going to be asked to be an admin - you then took a "sabbatical" and ever since when you reappeared you more or less constantly have been on my ass with petty bullshit, sideways comments and repeatedly complaining about how the site is "weak" or "gone to shit" or whatever you want to call it.

We are not soldiers in a war and personally speaking - for myself I am much more comfortable when people are simply speaking their minds like you currently are, rather than fake ass "we so rock" campfire dick sucking.

You don't like me or my posts - fine whatever, I truly don't give a rat's ass about it.. but to say I have "destroyed the site" is a bit much.

but whatever lol. I am glad it is the place it is tbh - you? you just bitch about how shit the forum is --- and now that has followed it's logical progression in your mind to: the site is so shit because of nik.

as said - no campfire dick sucking for me - you enjoy it, mr. tao warrior clone Wink

I don't even know why I am replying to this,my initial feeling was to just post another jerk it smiley, tbh.
"I just (sic) think five pages of "this guy is a jackass" is obsessive for a random post and it makes the forum look stupid."

It's an open forum, if you feel so precious about other peoples' posts "making the forum look stupid", then I suggest you ask yeti to make you an admin so you can ban me/them and keep it profoundly intelligent and befitting of your holier than thou level of discourse. fknlol.

try harder (if you must) currently I am not phased by your attack at all.

Maybe team up with Nick Hedge, nitzchie superfool and reality check.see if that helps Smile
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08-03-2010, 04:13 AM,
#83
RE: How much do the Jew haters know about 9/11?
Personally I think getting such a direct statement from OTO is impossible. I read it as he was fishing for anti-Semites, if that is not the case then I apologize but to me it sure did seem like it. I really don't think we have any here, just awake people. Nobody here damns all the Jewish people, just the mean ones, but then again to be mean you don't have to be Jewish and regardless of race, religion, color, or creed, if you are evil we call it out.
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08-03-2010, 04:48 AM,
#84
RE: How much do the Jew haters know about 9/11?
(08-03-2010, 04:13 AM)hilly7 Wrote: I really don't think we have any here...

Oh they're here all right. They just didn't respond to this thread. Most of them frequent the tracker and like to spout their blind hate there.

I quite agree with you hilly that a person's race or religion don't make them culpable. It's their actions that make a person part of the problem or the solution...or somewhere in between. To think otherwise is not only foolish but a logical fallacy.
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08-03-2010, 06:10 AM, (This post was last modified: 08-03-2010, 06:10 AM by h3rm35.)
#85
RE: How much do the Jew haters know about 9/11?
this guy (OTO) is an ignorant jackass... but he's no worse than a few others. Anti-Semites and militant Zionists are equal in their ignorant jackassery. Just my two cents.
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09-18-2010, 04:07 PM,
#86
RE: How much do the Jew haters know about 9/11?
OTO says people who have anti zionist views are cointelpro?

anyone who has anti zionist views is good and those who don't are the problem, like you OTO
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09-18-2010, 09:09 PM,
#87
RE: How much do the Jew haters know about 9/11?
I think it's safe to say that there is much propaganda on both sides, and that children especially are brought up around too much violence, usually encouraged by either side in the Israel/Gaza conflict. No matter what side of the fence I may have been born on, if I was there with a family, I'd get out, out of love for my children, rather than stay out of love for my land or pride. Nothing is worth seeing your, or anyone else's children die for.
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09-18-2010, 11:59 PM,
#88
RE: How much do the Jew haters know about 9/11?
(09-18-2010, 09:09 PM)Dunamis Wrote: I think it's safe to say that there is much propaganda on both sides, and that children especially are brought up around too much violence, usually encouraged by either side in the Israel/Gaza conflict. No matter what side of the fence I may have been born on, if I was there with a family, I'd get out, out of love for my children, rather than stay out of love for my land or pride. Nothing is worth seeing your, or anyone else's children die for.

it is safe to say there is much propaganda on both sides but it is also safe to say by the time it is distributed by the corporate media only that of Israel is published.

so you'd become a refugee and surrender land handed down through uncountable generations to the imperialist lie that is Israel. brilliant.

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01-16-2011, 10:11 AM, (This post was last modified: 01-16-2011, 11:16 AM by Infinite.)
#89
RE: How much do the Jew haters know about 9/11?
(07-31-2010, 01:18 AM)O.T.O Wrote: How can it be propaganda when it is taken from their own TV?
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They are brainwashing small kids to love martyr dearth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-tFhofluwQ

They hate their oppressors, can you blame them?

Here's an interesting article dealing with the subject of supposed hatred towards Jews. I've personally been lied to, tricked and screwed over by Jewish people in my own life. Maybe not all are like that but a lot are so it's worth talking about. Otherwise we'll be naive and unaware of their treachery:


Are the Jews “Victims” of Hate – or are THEY the HATERS?
An Open Letter to Jewish journalist, Dr. Henry Makow

(E-mailed to Dr. Makow on 2/21/08)



Dear Dr. Makow:

I have enjoyed your many articles on different subjects, including the New World Order, the Illuminati, and the Feminist Movement. I happen to be a female physician, in a particularly "macho" specialty – Orthopedic Surgery - in which there are very few women, but I agree with you about the destruction of masculinity in America. I don’t know if you have specifically laid the blame for this movement, but it clearly should be laid at the feet of the Jews. The super feminists who have led the Feminist movement from the very beginning have been Jews: Betty Friedan, Bella Abzug, Gloria Steinem, etc. The Feminist movement is Jewish to its core. It is part of the plan for the destruction of the family and the destruction of Christianity.

I also agree with you that the BIG Jews are perfectly happy to destroy the rank and file Jews.

But here is where I disagree with you. You say that the rank and file

Jews are really not responsible for the plan of the elitist Jews to control the world and destroy the Gentiles. I agree that the rank and file Jews do not KNOW the extent of the plan. But Jews in general are raised with a Talmudic culture, whether they have heard of the Talmud or not. They are raised with the idea that they are better than Gentiles, that they have a right to control them, take whatever belongs to them, and look down on them.

Believe me, I have plenty of experience and knowledge of this attitude.

My mother was born and raised in Brooklyn. When my mother was a little schoolgirl in Brooklyn, on Jewish holidays there were only two students in her class, - herself and one other (“Gentile”) girl. Everyone else was Jewish. My mother knew very well that all the (Jewish) shopkeepers were trying to cheat Gentiles, they lied constantly to Gentiles, and looked down on Gentiles.

When I was a resident in my medical training, at one point I rotated through a Jewish hospital. I had never seen such rude, undignified, uncouth and downright degenerate behavior by human beings. The Jewish doctors yelled at each other in the Operating Room, they called each other names, they threw surgical instruments at each other in the hallway in the Operating Room area - sometimes from as far away as 20 feet, they had huge, loud verbal brawls with each other in the hallways of the area where patients' rooms were, with the patients all standing (those who could) in the doorway watching this fiasco, they lied about the surgical procedures they had performed in the O.R. when they turned out badly (I would have scrubbed with them on the procedure and I KNEW what they had done, but when those cases were presented in the doctors' conference, they flat-out LIED) and all sorts of other crude, uncouth and immoral behavior about which I could go on and on and on.

When I asked them WHY they behaved in such a barbaric, childish, primitive, way, they looked at me with surprise and said, “Oh, that’s fun!”

The reason that Jews have been kicked out of nearly every country in the world for hundreds and hundreds of years is NOT because they are hated because of their “race” – it is because of their barbarian, uncouth, immoral and disgusting behavior!

For two years after I left my rotation at that Jewish hospital, I couldn't even go back in its doors for the city-wide Orthopedic conferences we would occasionally have there because I actually became nauseated when I entered that hospital, even though I got in trouble with my superiors for not attending the conference. For several years after I left that hospital, when I even drove down the main thoroughfare of the city that passed within a few blocks of that hospital, I would get sick to my stomach.

I was raised as a Christian, to be kind and civil and courteous to people. But it was clear that virtually ALL the Jews at that hospital (with the exception of maybe one or two) were behaving like barbarians. THIS is why the Jews have been thrown out of scores of countries in the world throughout history. Even the average rank and file Jew has NO concern for anyone but himself.

I agree that not all Jews are like that, but the few who aren't are such extreme examples they are almost reportable in a medical or political journal. My best friend in college was Jewish. She was generous, kind, and the antithesis of the average Jew. She also HATED the way the Jews behaved - even the behavior of her own mother, who her Jewish father divorced to marry a Gentile. My friend loved her mother, but she told her on many occasions , "Mom, I love you but I am NEVER going to be like you." Her mother was a typical, complaining, selfish, neurotic, Jewish mother who was always putting a guilt trip on her children.

And what about the Kol Nidre oath! That is NOT just repeated by the elitist Jews. The rank and file Jew goes to temple once a year to repeat that oath to absolve themselves of all the cheating, lying and stealing they plan to do in the coming year.

My point is, if it is not already clear, that the rank and file Jews are VERY responsible for what is going on at the top. They TOO believe they have the right to rule over Gentiles. They TOO believe in the lies of the supposed "extermination" camps of the Holocaust, and that THEY are the ones who have been victimized above ALL others, and that the suffering of anyone else doesn't matter at all - including the slaughter of 100 million Gentiles in Russia and the Ukraine by the Jews (the Jewish Bolsheviks like Lenin, Stalin, Marx and Trotsky), the present "genociding" of the Palestinians by the Jews, and many, many other instances of this type of ugly Jewish behavior against Gentiles throughout history.

I am not Jewish, but I have blood relatives who are Jewish, and I love them as much as all my other non-Jewish relatives. Fortunately, they don't behave like the majority of Jews behave.

Jewishness is NOT a race, it is a culture - the culture of the Talmud, which, as you well know, is about the filthiest, most hateful book on the face of the earth – a book that states, “Even the best of the Gentiles should ALL be killed.” If that is not HATE-speech – then what is?

I do not hate or dislike Jews. But I certainly hate the way that most of them behave. God loves every person the same, and so must we, but the Jews will have to do a LOT of reaping of their atrocious, hateful behavior in order to eventually "reap what they have sown" as God’s Word clearly states will happen.

Their immoral, hateful behavior will ultimately destroy them as a people. They, as a people, will self-destruct because “Hate” eventually destroys the one who hates!

Sincerely,

Lorraine Day, M.D.





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01-16-2011, 11:21 AM,
#90
RE: How much do the Jew haters know about 9/11?

About the poll:

How can you vote if you think that it probably was both a Mossad and an inside job.

In any case, I'm just a paid Jew hater.
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