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Revealed: brutal guide to punishing jailed youths
07-18-2010, 10:06 AM,
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Revealed: brutal guide to punishing jailed youths
Quote:Shocking details of techniques used to inflict pain deliberately on children in privately run jails have been revealed for the first time in a government document obtained by the Observer.

Some of the restraint and self-defence measures approved by the Ministry of Justice include ramming knuckles into ribs and raking shoes down the shins. Other extraordinary passages in the previously secret manual, Physical Control in Care, authorise staff to:

■ "Use an inverted knuckle into the trainee's sternum and drive inward and upward."

■ "Continue to carry alternate elbow strikes to the young person's ribs until a release is achieved."

■ "Drive straight fingers into the young person's face, and then quickly drive the straightened fingers of the same hand downwards into the young person's groin area."

The disclosure of the prison service manual follows a five-year freedom of information battle. The manual was condemned last night by campaigners as "state authorisation of institutionalised child abuse".

Published by the HM Prison Service in 2005 and classified as a restricted government document, the manual guides staff on what restraint and self-defence techniques are authorised for use on children as young as 12 in secure training centres. The centres are purpose-built facilities for young offenders up to the age of 17 and run by private firms under government contracts.

Instructions to staff warn that the techniques risk giving children a "fracture to the skull" and "temporary or permanent blindness caused by rupture to eyeball or detached retina".

The guidance, designed to cope with unruly children, also acknowledges that the measures could cause asphyxia. One passage, explaining how to administer a head-hold on children, adds that "if breathing is compromised the situation ceases to be a restraint and becomes a medical emergency".

Carolyne Willow, national co-ordinator of the Children's Rights Alliance for England (CRAE), which led the campaign for disclosure following the deaths of two teenage boys in secure training centres, said: "The manual is deeply disturbing and stands as state authorisation of institutionalised child abuse. What made former ministers believe that children as young as 12 could get so out of control so often that staff should be taught how to ram their knuckles into their rib cages? Would we allow paediatricians, teachers or children's home staff to be trained in how to deliberately hurt and humiliate children?"

The campaign for publication began following the deaths of Gareth Myatt and Adam Rickwood. Myatt, 15, died while being held down by three staff at Rainsbrook Secure Training Centre in Warwickshire. Myatt choked on his own vomit and died.

In the same year, 2004, 14-year-old Rickwood, from Burnley, hanged himself at the Hassockfield Secure Training Centre in County Durham. A judge ruled last year that the carers who restrained Rickwood shortly before his death had used unlawful force.

His mother, Carol Pounder, was said to be "relieved" that other parents would now know the truth behind the use of restraint.

Deborah Coles, co-director of the charity Inquest, which campaigns on the issue of contentious deaths in custody, claimed their deaths emanated from a "culture of obfuscation, secrecy and complacency… in which dangerous, unlawful and ultimately lethal practices continued unchecked".

Earlier this month the government was prepared to go to a tribunal to fight against the disclosure of the manual, despite the information commissioner ruling that the public interest was so grave the document should be released. The Ministry of Justice backed down and last week released the entire 119-page document. Previously, officials had even refused to give a copy to the parliamentary human rights committee.

Phillip Noyes, director of strategy and development at the National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children, said: "These shocking revelations graphically illustrate the cruel and degrading violence inflicted at times on children in custody. On occasions these restraint techniques have resulted in children suffering broken arms, noses, wrists and fingers. Painful restraint is a clear breach of children's human rights against some of the most vulnerable youngsters in society and does not have a place in decent society."

One former manager of a secure children's home with almost 20 years' experience said the revelations were "horrifying" and described the self-defence techniques as "child abuse".

"Nose distraction" techniques – sharp blows to the nose – have already been found by the Court of Appeal to have been routinely and unlawfully used in at least one centre.

The legal director for CRAE, Katy Swaine, said the contents of the manual offered evidence that the treatment of children in secure training centres had contravened human rights laws. She said: "The guidance given in this state-authorised manual violates human rights because it allows staff to deliberately hurt children outside cases of life-threatening necessity."

During the 12 months up to March 2009, restraint was used 1,776 times in the UK's four secure training centres.

Sir Al Aynsley-Green, the former children's commissioner for England and emeritus professor of child health at University College London, said: "It's time the whole country knows what is going on under their noses. This is just part of a brutal system, and we welcome the fact this is finally in the open."

Malcolm Stevens, a former government policy adviser and director of secure training centres who helped to develop the government's guidance for staff working in secure centres during the 1990s, said he could not understand why pain-inducing techniques were endorsed. He said: "I have never seen the need to use pain-compliant techniques, and after 15 years my view has not changed. I have no truck with distraction techniques."

The document also describes the application of steel handcuffs: children are forced to "adopt a kneeling position" while a second staff member "takes control of the head" by grabbing the back of the neck while cupping the chin.

Willow, who has drawn up 30 parliamentary questions to be tabled by MPs this week to ascertain how many times these self-defence techniques have been used in the past five years, said: "The ritualistic humiliation of making children kneel down to get handcuffs on and off is truly sickening and a clear abuse of human rights. Techniques include holding a 'child's forehead to the floor with another hand on the back of the neck'."

The Ministry of Justice said: "For young people under 18, the use of restraint is always a last resort. But where young people's behaviour puts themselves or others at serious risk, staff need to be able to intervene effectively, to protect the safety of all involved." The ministry added that the manual "is an aid for instructors" who train staff on the use of restraint techniques.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/jul/18/guide-punishing-jailed-youths
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07-19-2010, 02:56 AM,
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RE: Revealed: brutal guide to punishing jailed youths
how do you invert a knuckle?
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07-19-2010, 03:15 AM, (This post was last modified: 07-19-2010, 03:19 AM by ---.)
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RE: Revealed: brutal guide to punishing jailed youths
rotate your closed fist 180`thumb facing inward to facing outward? or vice versa.. is that it?
like rotating and twisting knuckles into them with pressure to cause sharp pain?
oh, i think it means like an upturned fist with the middle knuckle joint on the index or middle finger sticking into the sternum
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07-19-2010, 05:19 AM,
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RE: Revealed: brutal guide to punishing jailed youths
When I worked in a psych hospital, we were taught many ways to restrain and remove ourselves from someones grasp WITHOUT hurting them. They most definitely worked and in the time I was there we never caused anyone pain, let alone injury. To have something like this come out is utterly reprehensible.
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07-19-2010, 03:02 PM,
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RE: Revealed: brutal guide to punishing jailed youths
Just one more reason to topple the bastards
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07-19-2010, 03:03 PM, (This post was last modified: 07-19-2010, 03:04 PM by standvast.)
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RE: Revealed: brutal guide to punishing jailed youths
Quote:how do you invert a knuckle?

Since they also mention single-straight-finger-blows (to face and groin,)
i think they refer to what is known as "middle knuckle fist"

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it's likely a borrowed teakwondo technique.
I presume what they mean is this ;

Middle knuckle fist (Joongji joomuk)

Push the secondary knuckle of the middle finger out of the forefist with the side of the thumb.
It is used in attacking the solar plexus, temple and philtrum.
The solar plexus is attacked in the same way as an uppercut.

The most extended knuckle is "uppercutted" under the Plexus or sternum, this can be done with a strike or by grabbing hold the
persons clothes and "pushing" the fist in. yeah ,..hurts if done right.

quite disturbing but hardly surprising these techniques are used,..
they are effective.
If Thine I that I spy with my own little I Doeth Offend thee ; Pluck It out.

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07-19-2010, 03:58 PM,
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RE: Revealed: brutal guide to punishing jailed youths
does any here have ANY experience dealing with young offenders" term we give to jevi criminals in Canada, even pre 12 year olds?

Not all kids r sweet and nice. I wasn't Icon_biggrin I spent 5 years in a hard military college where Superiors could restrain or dis arm a cadet if they did not comply. I was one of the long serving @ 5 years so I got to see a lot of different types of "bad ass". Some cadets were belligerent and were "restrained/ relocated to seg" often say 2-3 times a month, and upon exit all rank is lost and your stuck on "orientation" (chores for whole day 2 15 min periods of "reading or quiet time no tech no music")

Now i will admit i spent a good 2+ years on orientation and never earned any rank beyond second level of 12 Dodgy (was skeptical of compliance then also!) But not once did i ever have to be man handled, i'd push and mouth but b4 it got tot that I'd pull back and quasi comply so i was still punished but i didn't have to go to seg, and i didn't have to be restrained. In fact it's what gave me the most respect with the superiors cause they knew i was intelligent and emotionally controlled.

Now with many other cadets i blame the there parents! and that they were weak of mind to if after 1- maybe 2 years you have not caught on...

But some kids r rotten to the core, now i'm not saying anything we have not had our parents suffer, but back then if the kid needed a whoopins to comply it was Poppa who did it. now though it has to be the State in most places. Here in Canada we're a free country where we can use our hand no weapon on any of our OWN children over 2years old. I'm lucky with my two who r with in legal age, + i find cold showers work better for 15 seconds, and hot peppers Icon_biggrin But some times one should not with poorly raised children spare the rod.

To do so leads to these same criminals... kids i mean growing up into criminals, and not normally of the white colar type! With strict young offender facilities they can be turned around. I have only encountered like 4-5 of the say 300 i would have met over the 5 years i was there, and none but one led to anything, two r crack heads, one is in jail (ironically one like me who was quasi smart) and the other a girl got prego @ 13!!! and now has 4 kids by 4-5 dads (her joke! WOW).

When i went from there i was lucky to have a real guardian, where as in the poor economic times i was the minority there as most of the cadets were placed by gov entities who had them in other places where they had continued to be so bad they had to be moved. I used to shake my head @ the talk shows one used to see on day time tv... where they had unrully kids and they show host and "doctor type" would say it was all about blaba blaba .... none ever put it how it was and how it should be! kick the kids ass and make him pay restitution, in cash, toys or labor if all civil methods do not teach proper behavior.

If a Kid is in a re-form school, or secure facility they have already wondered onto the wrong path, outside torture (so far this is all just restraint and attack moves) The "guards" should be given privilege to teach accordingly!

One thng most here need to remember who have kids cause when these stories come out those of us with kids in the average tend to picture if it was OUR kid.... Truth is Most likly none of OUR kids would have this happen to them for a number of reasons the first being we have taught (well i have) that authority is abusive, and power corrupts, and to live to fight another day! To our kids. so they know a cop will use there gun or tazer, that a teacher may grab you and drag you to the office, etc, where as the unruly never had mentoring styled parents or had weak ones who would not follow through with consequences, and so they grew to believe they were able to do as they wish! Secondly at least with my kids i have taught them to try to guess what will happen if they do X so they can see consequences (good/bad) of there actions. And lastly if my kids hurt eachother or another child they r punished, (this can be yelling, removal of toys or the dreaded time out in the little house!) but this started young so by 4-6 they know better, the kids in these homes or the one @ that day care from way back don't have this moral compass being wired in to not HURT others/ animals, as there parents often left them in playpens, or in front of the TV, the same children often can not read even at ages as late as 10!

so when training a horse (animal doesn't speak english has difficulty understanding etc...) you use a ridding crop, spiked rails and hot steel @ times to train, now the horse can take more then a human, so we don't go to such extremes but the horse will be trained, and will jump higher and higher, and not be skittish round noise/ smell of blood. because you r wiring it's brain with words and "pain". The very unruly of children 6+ will need either drugs (no way i'd let big pharm in!) or a bit of corporal punishment entered into there lives to be course corrected. I say bring back the strap in schools and you will see a marked increase in the standard IQ of the average American/ Western student!
Remember Knowledge is the only thing THEY can't take from you, and Knowledge is Know how, and Know how is Power!!!

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07-19-2010, 04:09 PM,
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RE: Revealed: brutal guide to punishing jailed youths
Brutalised youth just begets brutal adults.
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07-19-2010, 04:15 PM, (This post was last modified: 07-19-2010, 04:16 PM by standvast.)
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RE: Revealed: brutal guide to punishing jailed youths
Quote:I say bring back the strap in schools and you will see a marked increase in the standard IQ of the average American/ Western student!

Beating people when they don't recognize your authority increases their intelligence ? Dodgy
IMHO, All you are doing is making them comply due to fear of fysical assault,.. they are not growing wiser , they are merely being taught
to bow to the one weilding a greater fysical strenght / the better weapons.
that never aided to anyone's intelligence.

It had me thinking of this quote by Arthur S.

Quote:Religion is the masterpiece of the art of animal training, for it trains people as to how they shall think

i assume that employing brute force as they have not the intelligence to solve things diplomatically / by mind alone, is a religion to some.
If Thine I that I spy with my own little I Doeth Offend thee ; Pluck It out.

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07-19-2010, 04:55 PM, (This post was last modified: 07-19-2010, 05:00 PM by ---.)
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RE: Revealed: brutal guide to punishing jailed youths
it's obvious that some manner of self defence and suppression techniques are going to be needed for staff dealing with such situations but to codify and validate such extreme actions as necessary force as such is just obscene.

It's obvious that the current measures sanctioned as legitimate are extreme by consequence of the fact we have children hanging themselves and or being beaten to death.
Maybe if the Orwellian named ministry of justice spent more time on considering what kind of people were appropriate to be employed in such positions rather than mandating what kind of violence and sadism was acceptable we'd get a little further than just conditioning youth to be life long violent offenders
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07-19-2010, 05:19 PM,
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RE: Revealed: brutal guide to punishing jailed youths
True,
Nik yes i agree that prison workers would need some
forms of defense and suppresion techniques,
but the ones listed as OK'd are meant to inflict excess pain in
the most sensitive areas (groin / face / plexus.)
Combine that with the intensity of a (elbow / single finger /single knuckle) , all those techniques strike with a "sharp" (small surface area) impact.

It seems a condonement for "bare knuckle" punishment and by Ok'ing
the above i suppose knees to the body/face and any other form
of severe beating seems quite "mild" and thus accepted also.

I highly doubt most correctional officers are trained to even
use these techniques effectively,..
striking a solid single finger blow or landing a "inverted knuckle punch" is not easy , especially not when in distress.
when compared to easily managable forms of
"soft weaponry" / defense or methods of suppressing a non-adult,
it just seems savage and completely unnescessary to allow these methods.
If Thine I that I spy with my own little I Doeth Offend thee ; Pluck It out.

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07-19-2010, 06:27 PM, (This post was last modified: 07-19-2010, 06:29 PM by Deathaniel.)
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RE: Revealed: brutal guide to punishing jailed youths
most often these kids r not the ones who CAN be talked to reason. logic and common sense being life lessons they missed first time around.

Personally i believe in hierarchy and so children should be taught to listen and respect authority, once there older they can start to free think. Especially since there free thoughts now lead to crimes against property and persons.

as for the comment re brutalized youth= brutalized adults... some sure but for some they learn how to behave in polite society and what r and r not acceptable forms of non coherence. I was not often spanked as a child and only remember being strapped once, and in military school nothing. i was smart enough to be reasoned with ... not all young offenders r. and the trauma of the assault is not as bad as using past methods, and i doubt it's kid is not listening stab his eye it's child refuses to leave area, or attacks another staff/ youth and the staff do not have the option to try to TALK to the not listening kid, so action is taken.

reminds me of ol bank of Scotland commercial where guy is choking @ table of friends and they r debating how best to help him then the scot comes over from another table Heimlich's him, he spits out the food and is saved. and there motto is "taking action" some times verbal commands r not an option and some guide lines no matter who you hire MUST be set forth to prevent excessive abuse, so far nothing i read here is excessive. no long term damage and gets desired result, @ least there not suggesting pressure points we had a superior @ my school who would use them and it worked much more then restraints or the moves here. Sure theirs some nerve damage though if done wrong...

See thats where many here show there lack of exposure to the negative side of life, jails, young offenders , addicts. sure there still human, but they r not able to normally be dealt with as one would hope to treat any other common language spoken individual, and often it's exactly how they ambush the sheep it the sheep r unwilling to fight back or to sense the "evil" (mental/social disorder) in the individual. it's especially sad for children of the not fixed children, as they r a second or times third generation without any moral/ civil compass, so it's not just the kid we don't fix as a child today but the future kids, and to be honest i use plenty of the non corporal disciplines i experienced in the military school on my kids.

Trust assured, that the violence is not a staff's first option but one they have in there arsenal, if the kids r too dumb or just too resistant then they have there con-sequence. like i said 5 years folks not once did they have to manhandle me but i could be reasoned with (or i had my own plan so going along on the surface worked).

the quote by arthur s: very true, and hence i don't like religion, but having children be taught to be safe, and to not be violent/ destructive is not mind control but civilization conditioning, part of if they (parents) want there kid to be part of our society. Cause if the state/ parent doesn't fix 'em as a kid then they will be removed as adults from society as adults serving jail time. @ a further cost to society as they r not likely as adults to get out and be well educated and civilized ready to make a valuable contribution to society. Long terms stays in penal institutions has not only adverse health risks, but also had mental effects anti societal. (institutionalism they call it) So if a bit of corporal as a kid can put them on the st8 and narrow and save them from a life of being a criminal so be it, it's far better then the alternative.
Remember Knowledge is the only thing THEY can't take from you, and Knowledge is Know how, and Know how is Power!!!

Live long and Prosper!!!! Have a plan beyond words, and worry not of why the storm is coming as to how you're going to survive in it!!!!

Deathanyl @gmail!!!!!!
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07-19-2010, 10:12 PM,
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RE: Revealed: brutal guide to punishing jailed youths
The hospital I worked in had a full age range of people. We had 4 year old kids through teenagers and adults and elderly. Everyone was in different wings of course. There was never any trouble from the young kids. The teenage boys and girls never were out of control enough for us to have to restrain them. They just liked to draw on everything and break what they could. We only had to restrain the adults. I don't think we ever had to restrain any adult women, now that I think about it.
We also dealt with chemical dependency as well as psych. The cops would bring them to us right off the street in handcuffs and leg cuffs. It was an interesting place at times.
“Today’s scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after
equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality. ” -Nikola Tesla

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07-20-2010, 02:56 AM,
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RE: Revealed: brutal guide to punishing jailed youths
(07-19-2010, 10:12 PM)Easy Skanking Wrote: The hospital I worked in had a full age range of people. We had 4 year old kids through teenagers and adults and elderly. Everyone was in different wings of course. There was never any trouble from the young kids. The teenage boys and girls never were out of control enough for us to have to restrain them. They just liked to draw on everything and break what they could. We only had to restrain the adults. I don't think we ever had to restrain any adult women, now that I think about it.
We also dealt with chemical dependency as well as psych. The cops would bring them to us right off the street in handcuffs and leg cuffs. It was an interesting place at times.

I bet! So though most "clients" didn't need it it was part of what you were allowed to do if required right? (to restrain or force move an unruly patient)
Remember Knowledge is the only thing THEY can't take from you, and Knowledge is Know how, and Know how is Power!!!

Live long and Prosper!!!! Have a plan beyond words, and worry not of why the storm is coming as to how you're going to survive in it!!!!

Deathanyl @gmail!!!!!!
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07-20-2010, 03:09 AM,
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RE: Revealed: brutal guide to punishing jailed youths
We were only allowed to restrain them if they were threatening to hurt themselves or others or trying to escape. Those were the only circumstances. Anything else the councilors talked to them until they complied. IT was very rare that we had to restrain anyone. Mostly it was just ways to hold their arms and torso and another to hold the legs. Never anything that was painful as we we all subjected to the holds ourselves. It was a very last resort. I think in a two year period, I was involved in maybe 6 or 7 restraints.
I had to chase a guy on a mad dash across the courtyard, up a wall and across the roof before he jumped down 2 stories to the street. The cops picked him up a couple of blocks away with a pretty good limp.
We had both folks that were voluntary and involuntary.
“Today’s scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after
equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality. ” -Nikola Tesla

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace." -Jimi Hendrix
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