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Netanyahu: manipulate Americans, beat Palestinians
07-17-2010, 01:10 PM, (This post was last modified: 07-17-2010, 01:14 PM by joeblow.)
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Exclamation  Netanyahu: manipulate Americans, beat Palestinians
Netanyahu: America easily manipulated, Palestinians need beating

[Image: 1279224044bibi.jpg]

Fibi Netanyahu
In 2001, PM boasted of manipulating Oslo accords

http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/39692/fibi-netanyahu/

Meeting with Benjamin Netanyahu last week, President Obama could not have been more effusive. “I believe Prime Minister Netanyahu wants peace,” Obama said [1]. “I believe he is ready to take risks for peace.”

A newly revealed tape of Netanyahu in 2001, being interviewed while he thinks the cameras are off, shows him in a radically different light. In it, Netanyahu dismisses American foreign policy as easy to maneuver, boasts of having derailed the Oslo accords with political trickery, and suggests that the only way to deal with the Palestinians is to “beat them up, not once but repeatedly, beat them up so it hurts so badly, until it’s unbearable” (all translations are mine).


According [2]
to Haaretz’s Gideon Levy, the video should be “Banned for viewing by children so as not to corrupt them, and distributed around the country and the world so that everyone will know who leads the government of Israel.”

Netanyahu is speaking to a small group of terror victims in the West Bank settlement of Ofra two years after stepping down as prime minister in 1999. He appears laid-back. After claiming that the only way to deal with the Palestinian Authority was a large-scale attack, Netanyahu was asked by one of the participants whether or not the United States would let such an attack come to fruition.

“I know what America is,” Netanyahu replied. “America is a thing you can move very easily, move it in the right direction. They won’t get in their way.” He then called former president Bill Clinton “radically pro-Palestinian,” and went on to belittle the Oslo peace accords as vulnerable to manipulation. Since the accords state that Israel would be allowed to hang on to pre-defined military zones in the West Bank, Netanyahu told his hosts that he could torpedo the accords by defining vast swaths of land as just that.

“They asked me before the election if I’d honor [the Oslo accords],” Netanyahu said. “I said I would, but … I’m going to interpret the accords in such a way that would allow me to put an end to this galloping forward to the ’67 borders. How did we do it? Nobody said what defined military zones were. Defined military zones are security zones; as far as I’m concerned, the entire Jordan Valley is a defined military zone. Go argue.”

Smiling, Netanyahu then recalled how he forced former U.S. Secretary of State Warren Christopher to agree to let Israel alone determine which parts of the West Bank were to be defined as military zones. “They didn’t want to give me that letter,” Netanyahu said, “so I didn’t give them the Hebron agreement [the agreement giving Hebron back to the Palestinians]. I cut the cabinet meeting short and said, ‘I’m not signing.’ Only when the letter came, during that meeting, to me and to Arafat, did I ratify the Hebron agreement. Why is this important? Because from that moment on, I de facto put an end to the Oslo accords.”

President Obama, and anyone else concerned about Israel’s commitment to the peace process, may watch the tape online here [3].
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07-17-2010, 07:27 PM,
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RE: Netanyahu: manipulate Americans, beat Palestinians
Here's my translation of the everything that Bibi says. I'll do my best:

Bibi is speaking to a family that lost a father and a son, etc. At first some introductions, etc, offer of food...

Bibi: Turn off the camera and I'll tell you want I think. (22:00)
(Then you see the camera off and back on for a moment.)
Bibi: Now we're starting to understand the meaning of "Y.S.A. is here" [Y.S.A stands for Judea-Samaria-Gaza and YSA is also the word "redemption" in Hebrew] (22:29)
Bibi: YSA is here. YSA is everywhere. What's the difference? What does Arafat want? He wants one big settlement and its name is Tel Aviv.
Woman: Yes, that's what my daughter-in-law, when she arrives from England said: "Tel Aviv is also a settlement" (22:42)
Bibi: As far as they're concerned, in my opinion, our territorial waters are also theirs. (22:45) That they want us in the sea, yes, but in the sea... [this is a reference to "drive the Jews into the sea"] The Arabs are currently focusing a war of terror and they think that it will break us. (22:54) The central thing is first to hit them. Not just one hit, multiple hits so painful that the price will be to heavy to bear. Right now the price isn't too heavy to bear. An attack on multiple fronts on the Palestinian Authority. To bring them to fear that everything is collapsing.
Woman: They don't fear, they laugh at us, they shot at our village in laughter...
Bibi: (23:16) Fear that everything is collapsing, that's what will them to...
Woman: Wait, but the world will again say, what are you conquering?
Bibi: The world won't say anything, the world will say that we are protecting...
Woman: You're not afraid of the world, Bibi?
Bibi: No. Especially today, with America. I know what America is. America is something that can be moved easily. Moved in the right direction. (23:34)
Boy: They say that they are in favor of us but, like...
Bibi: They won't bother us. They won't bother us.
Boy: On the other hand, if we do something, then they...
Bibi: Let's assume that they say something. Let them say. 80% of Americans support us. It's absurd. We have such support and we say: "What are we going to do if..."
Bibi: Look, the government (of Clinton) was extermely Pro-Palestinian. I wasn't afraid to maneuver there. I wasn't afraid to confront Clinton. I wasn't afraid to confront the UN. Either way I'm paying the price internationally, so it's better that I get the benefit. Benefit for my payment.
Boy: Oslo... regardless, we gave them things that we can now not take back from them because they won't give them back to us.
Bibi: First of all, Oslo is a process... You're right. First, I don't know what we can or can't take-
Woman: He [the boy] has political opinions, believe me...
Bibi: He's right...
Woman: He said to Arik Sharon things, I told him: "This is not the opinion of a [simple] child." The Oslo agreement is a disaster.
Bibi: Yes, that you know and that I knew...
Woman: Good, so I thought--
Bibi: The people need to know.
Woman: Right... but I thought that the prime minister would know and would do everything in order to, somehow, not do critical things, such as giving over Hebron.
Bibi: What were the Oslo Accords? [rhetorical] The Oslo Accords, that the government signed... They asked me, before the elections, "Will you enact...?" I said: "Yes, provided reciprocation and the limiting of retreating [of borders]." "How will you limit the retreat?" I will give a meaning to the Oslo Accords that will allow me to stop this gallopping toward the borders of '67. How will I do this? [rhetorical again]
[News anchor talks for a bit over Bibi's voice about what the Oslo Accords are and say something about a loophole.]
Bibi: No one defined what a military area is. Marked off military areas, I said, are saftey areas. The Jordan valley, as far as I'm concerned, is a defined military zone. [Woman names some towns in the Jordan Valley] But then there was the question, "who will define what is a military zone?" I got a letter from Christopher (Clinton's secretary of state) to me and to Arafat at the same time, that says Israel, and Israel alone, she will decide what they are, the location of these military zones and their size. Now, they didn't want to give this letter, so I didn't give the Hebron agreement. I stopped the government meeting and said, "I'm not signing." Only when the letter arrived during the meeting, to me and to Arafat, did I sign the Hebron agreement. Or rather, I allowed it. It was already signed. Why is this important? (26:09) Because at that moment, in essence, I stopped the Oslo agreement.
Woman: And despite that, one of our people, sorry, that knew that it was a trick and that we are committing suicide with the Oslo accord, gives them for example, Hebron. I never understood this.
Bibi: Truly Hebron hurts. Truly. That's one of the things that hurts.
Bibi: One of the famous rabbis, the I much honor, rabbi of Israel, said: "What would your father say?" I went to my father, you know my father's stance? My dad... he's not exactly a white dove, as they say. So my father heard the question and he said,(26:48) "Tell the rabbi that your grandfather, Rabbi Nathan Milikovski, was a smart Jew. Tell him that it's better to give 2% than to give 100%. And that's the option that was on the table." You gave 2 percent and that's how you stopped that retreat [of borders] instead of giving 100%. The smart thing isn't to be there and to break. The smart thing is to be there and give a little.
(27:19 and onward he says good bye and plays with a ball outside)
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