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Barium in Chemtrails and Project Blue Beam
06-29-2010, 08:50 PM,
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Barium in Chemtrails and Project Blue Beam
Part 1 - Part 2

The means to fool humans into believing the long awaited extraterrestrial saviours have come to save them from themselves requires a lot of barium.

Includes a demonstration of the sound effects.

A Christian perspective.

Posted on May 24, 2009 by v3riTaSs
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06-29-2010, 09:07 PM,
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RE: Barium in Chemtrails and Project Blue Beam
tyvm for posting this, reboot
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07-03-2010, 11:30 PM,
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RE: Barium in Chemtrails and Project Blue Beam
Fascinating read and well referenced to boot. The Blue Beam project only adds another dimension to the uses of having barium et al deployed in the atmosphere.

WHAT CHEMTRAILS REALLY ARE - The Short Scoop
http://concen.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=28917

Updated Article with diagrams at:
https://xiandos.info/WHAT_CHEMTRAILS_REALLY_ARE_-_The_Short_Scoop

Highlights:

* Chemtrails are the medium -- directed energy is the method.
* Peoples of the World: you may have already been microchipped
* Space Weapons bills
There are no others, there is only us.
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07-04-2010, 02:07 AM,
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RE: Barium in Chemtrails and Project Blue Beam
Many thanks to Reboot and FastTadpole for the intriguing links ...

... you guys are the best !! Exclamation

Stephanie Relfe (at this link) offers another possible explanation for "chemtrails" ...

... she suggests that they are intended to make humans into walking "antennas".

Quote from the above link:

[beginning of quote--]

Putting all this information together Michael and I one day hit upon what we believe is the real purpose of the chemtrails.

It is mind control.

It is done by delivering a high level of metals to all the people of earth.

The aim is to turn each one of us into a walking antenna.

Human beings are electrical in nature.

In addition to our complex electrical makeup, we have an energetic side as well. Our meridians and chakras are only the most basic component of this hidden side.

This energetic side is very sensitive to electromagnetic and scalar magnetic signals reaching into the terrahertz band.

Saturating humans with metallic compounds makes them more sensitive to man made signals in these ranges. Much research has been conducted and many patents have been awarded relating to remote influence, electromagnetic telepathy and mind control.

There may be other reasons for chemtrails in addition to this, but we believe this is a major reason.


If this is the case, then how does one get free of this?

One way is to be as healthy as possible so your body can more easily get rid of the metals.

Improve your diet.

Another way is to add cilantro to your body as this helps your body to excrete metals. Another way is intestinal detoxification ...

[end of quote]

As with all research, forum member SilVa's admonishment always applies, which is:

"Listen to everyone, read everything, believe nothing unless you can prove it in your own research."

@ Reboot: I love your current "avatar" painting. Is that the painting "The Fountainhead" by Frank O'Connor, who was husband of Ayn Rand ?

Thanks again, to Reboot and FastTadpole for the links !
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07-04-2010, 02:50 AM,
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RE: Barium in Chemtrails and Project Blue Beam
The article actually mentions both Mind Control and Holographic Augmentation of Reality. It just wasn't one of the headings.

Quote:What does that mean? Someone or someones are very involved in unconstitutional, domestic spying and the entrained plasma orbs carried on electromagnetic beams can be used for mind control programming. The satellites can be programmed to track and monitor various frequencies on different parts of your body. These electromagnetic beams carrying the gas plasma orbs stick due magnetic polarity and frequency mapping and tracking to people's eyes, ears, temples, and private parts. A beam with entrained orbs carries pictures in each orb just like the different frames in a movie. It is a particle beam that is also a frequency weapon.

The satellites download holographic mind control movies, pictures, sounds, and sensations to people through this technology. The Air Force has stated in "Air Force 2025" that their goal is to develop virtual and augmented reality mind control. Depending on the how the computer is programmed or depending on the mood or intent of the person interfacing with the technology, you can be probed, bothered, gaslighted, frightened, manipulated, electronically raped, or tortured. It scans your brain frequencies and deciphers your thoughts. The satellites track you by mapping your bioenergetic signature [body biometrics] and constantly scanning an area to find you.
https://xiandos.info/WHAT_CHEMTRAILS_REALLY_ARE_-_The_Short_Scoop

Quote:Heavy Metals in Chemtrails - How to Protect Yourself

HEAVY METALS FROM CHEMTRAILS
In this video ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFn2c-1xmgg ), rainwater in Australia contained:

* 15 mm of rain had 28.9 ppm heavy metals.

The rainwater was sent to a government laboratory and analyzed. The results of what was in the rainwater follow. (The "safe guidelines" are those that are set by the World Health Organization).

* Aluminum. 780 times the safe level.
* Arsenic. 593 times the safe level.
* Manganese. 4,000 times the safe level.
* Barium. 300 times the safe level.
* Zinc. 8,000 times the safe level.
* Iron. 2,000 times the safe level.
* Boron. 4,000 times the safe level. (Boron is not meant to be present in the atmosphere at significant levels. Sprague, 1972).

What is the best way to get rid of Heavy Metals in the body?

Chelation! [The pitch begins - not that I'm dissing it]

There are 3 options:

1. Intra-venous chelation of EDTA with a doctor. This takes about 3 hours each visit, and costs around $100 a visit. Some people recommend 30 visits for people with serious health problems. That's $3,000!
2. Oral Chelation of EDTA. We understand that this has only about a 5% absorption rate.
3. EDTA Suppositories. This is the best option. 15 Kelatox suppositories is roughly equivalent to 15 I.V. Sessions. Each suppository has 900 mg Ca-Edta. One box of Kelatox with 15 suppositories is only $133.
http://metatech.org/2010-2011/protect_yourself_from_chemtrails_heavy_metals.html

We missed on the manufactured food scarcity agenda. So to be through.

Quote:Points to Ponder: Soil tests - aluminum levels elevated?

Early November 2004: This is the farm field at the Holmestead - it is only twenty-five acres but yields a good crop. This season it was soybeans and they had just come off and the field had been harrowed when this photograph was taken.

As part of the normal farming routine there have been soil tests carried out to determine if there should be any corrective measures taken to adjust the soil conditions.

This field, along with nine others in the immediate area were tested and I have the results on hand - laboratory reports #C04275-015 and 016.

Below is a sample of the form of such a report - please note that this is not one of those being studied here.

[Image: a+l-soiltest.jpg]

From a telephone conversation with one of the agronomists at the laboratory (A & L Canada Laboratories East, Inc.) I learned that soil testing that included aluminum testing was a relatively new addition to the standard agricultural tests - just over the last few years. He also maintained that the level of aluminum found in this particular series of tests was "not unusual".

This same agronomist seemed unable to give a simple, direct answer to my question of what is considered to be the traditional historical background level of naturally occurring aluminum in agricultural soils although one page on the web site of his laboratory had the following statement along with an illustration with specific figures: "Aluminum greater than 400 ppm is a problem for most growing plants. The primary target for aluminum is the root cap. Therefore, it has a major impact on root growth and efficiency."

[Image: a+l-al-rating.jpg]

The aluminum reading that had been reported in our ten local soil tests ranged from a high of 1692 ppm (parts per million) to a low of 712 ppm - and that lowest one happened to be the Holmestead field. The average of all ten fields was 1247 ppm which is in the "Very High" range of the above published Aluminum Rating.

Our interest in the level of aluminum is related to the fact that there have been numerous reports of various aluminum compounds being found in the "chemtrails" that are being constantly sprayed. Just search Google for chemtrails + aluminum or aluminium: Google search - the list of results is extensive!

Holmestead.ca has touched upon this subject before - almost two years ago, where we presented the results from Edmonton where laboratory tests (Lab Tests) showed levels of aluminum and barium as much as twenty times the normal background levels in rain and snow precipitation and were such that soil conductivity was greatly elevated. Here is the pertinent section of this earlier web page:

Quote:BARIUM AND ALUMINUM CONFIRMED

Assuming that unusual metal content in the soil could be causing the high electrical conductivity readings, Dickie collected samples of a fresh snowfall for the city, and took them to Edmonton's NorWest Labs for analysis.

This reporter has obtained copies of lab tests conducted on snow samples collected by the city of Edmonton, Alberta between Nov. 8 - 12, 2002. The tests show unaccountably elevated levels of aluminum and barium. Norwest Labs lab report #336566, dated Nov. 14 2002 found:

* aluminum levels: 0.148 milligrams/litre

* barium levels: 0.006 milligrams/litre

Acting like the electrolyte in a car battery, barium chemtrails developed at Ohio's Wright Patterson Air Force Base are routinely sprayed into the atmosphere to "duct" or bend military radio and radar waves over-the-horizon, instead of continuing straight beyond the Earth's curvature into space. "Wright Pat" is also closely connected to HAARP Experiments employing tightly focused, extremely high-energy radio frequency beams to alter the weather, disrupt communications and "X-ray" bunkers deep underground thousands of miles away the transmitter array in Gakon, Alaska.

Aluminum stunts plant growth by sucking nutrients from the soil.

Dave Dickie told me, "Our most recent snowfall was tested for aluminum and barium and we were not surprised with the results. You've said it all along and this just substantiates some of your claims."

But the soil expert cautioned that because the chemistry of unrefined aluminum oxide often found in the environment depends on soil acidity and the presence of other minerals, it is difficult to estimate "natural" background concentrations. Even so, NorWest Lab techs told Dickie that the elevated levels of aluminum and barium they were finding are not usually found in Alberta precipitation.

Concerned city officials ordered more tests made on precipitation falling within a 40 mile radius of Edmonton. A second series of lab tests has now confirmed high levels of barium and aluminum in snow Dickie thinks fell through chemtrails. So far, he says, there is no other explanation for the high-levels of each chemical compound in city soils.

Dickie says it's so simple to test for aluminum and barium, labs typically charge $10 to $15 for this analysis. He is adding quartz to the list of possible fallout components after tiny quartz particles dominated lab tests of rain falling through heavy chemtrails over Espanola, Ontario in the summer of 1999. Levels of aluminum analyzed in the Ontario samples were up to seven-times higher than provincial permissible safety limits.


The subject of natural occurring aluminum (oxide) is complex as aluminum is the most commonly occurring metallic element and it is estimated to comprise eight percent of the earth's crust. It is a major component of almost all common inorganic soil particles, with the exceptions of quartz sand, chert fragments, and ferromanganiferous concretions.

The typical range of aluminum in soils may be from 1 percent to 30 percent on a worldwide basis with naturally occurring concentrations varying greatly.

Here we are considering Ontario agricultural soil where the "mobility" of the aluminum is increased by low pH (acidic) levels - especially that of rain water. Therefore a typical problem with acid rain is the increased levels of aluminum that may then be found in soils.

Aluminum in agricultural soils is not a required plant nutrient or trace mineral but is known to tie up phosphorus.

course, all this noxious aerial stuff has to eventually come down somewhere - into our soil, water, food and lungs. In fact, the whole environment. Not to mention it being ingested by all the other creatures on this planet.

In this, as in so many other aspects of the "chemtrail" issue, serious and comprehensive research is needed, preferably by a trustworthy body not directly linked to either Governments or the multinational corporations, but answerable directly to the public.

As a footnote - aluminum is a twentieth century metal and Alzheimer's disease is a twentieth century fact. In 1907, Dr. Alois Alzheimer, a German psychiatrist and neuropathologist, first described a new ailment now known as Alzheimer's Disease. Dr. Alzheimer's discovery occurred approximately twenty years after aluminum was introduced and became a widely used product.
http://www.holmestead.ca/chemtrails/soiltest.html
I may have mentioned this before from a different source, if so, excuse the re-run. Monsanto is in the game too. To guard the research so no one else can do it develop aluminum resistance in crops and starve off the populace to serve a eugenics motive or is it so they can come in and save the day and we will hail them as a great company. It is the better tactic for asserting longer term control and respect.

In the practical art of war, the best thing of all is to take the enemy's country whole and intact; to shatter and destroy it is not so good. So, too, it is better to recapture an army entire than to destroy it. -Sun Tzu, the Art of War

Regard your soldiers as your children, and they will follow you into the deepest valleys; look upon them as your own beloved sons, and they will stand by you even unto death. If, however, you are indulgent, but unable to make your authority felt; kind-hearted, but unable to enforce your commands; and incapable, moreover, of quelling disorder: then your soldiers must be likened to spoilt children; they are useless for any practical purpose. - Sun Tzu

Quote:Chemtrails and Monsanto’s New Aluminum Resistance Gene – Coincidence?
May 18th, 2010

Coincidence that Monsanto will “come to the rescue” with aluminum resistance genes because normal plants die off in the presence of excess aluminum? Or opportunistic capitalism and planned corporate food monopoly courtesy of Monsanto and the Hegelian Dialectic based on insider information that a proposed “geo-engineering” scheme is already in place that is filling our atmosphere with chemtrails containing aluminum and barium?

This is no game folks. We are being hit from all sides with a planned, homicidal, genocidal agenda to make a very few families even richer than they already are, and reduce the world’s population to 500 million as set forth in the Georgia Guidestones. This is nothing short of biological warfare.

©2010 Barbara H. Peterson
http://farmwars.info/?p=2927

Referenced Research Paper:


Quote:Delivering Genetically Engineered Crops to Poor Farmers
International Food Policy Research Institute (IFPRI)

"Small-scale, resource-poor farmers in developing countries face daily stresses, including poor soils, drought, and lack of inputs. Ongoing trends such as climate change and population growth will likely exacerbate binding stresses. A new generation of genetically engineered (GE) crop research aims to alleviate these pressures through the improvement of subsistence crops—such as cassava, sorghum, and millet—that incorporate traits such as tolerance to drought, water, and aluminum in soils as well as plants with more efficient nitrogen and phosphorus use."
http://www.ifpri.org/publication/delivering-genetically-engineered-crops-poor-farmers
There are no others, there is only us.
http://FastTadpole.com/
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07-12-2010, 12:00 AM, (This post was last modified: 07-12-2010, 12:16 AM by JazzRoc.)
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RE: Barium in Chemtrails and Project Blue Beam
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clay

Clay is ALUMINUM PHYLLOSILICATE (mostly).

CLAY IS A CONSTITUENT OF SOIL.

THEREFORE ALUMINUM IS A CONSTITUENT OF SOIL.

It's the most prolific metal on the surface of the Earth. (I like that - pro - lif - ic)

How long has it been this way? Er, gotta be 4.6Bn years.

Does that mean we're rather used to it? RATHER! LOL
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07-12-2010, 07:04 AM,
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RE: Barium in Chemtrails and Project Blue Beam
Of course aluminum is a natural constituent of soil but that doesn't discount the high heavy metal findings, among other things in the water sample.

Quote:* Aluminum. 780 times the safe level.
* Arsenic. 593 times the safe level.
* Manganese. 4,000 times the safe level.
* Barium. 300 times the safe level.
* Zinc. 8,000 times the safe level.
* Iron. 2,000 times the safe level.
* Boron. 4,000 times the safe level. (Boron is not meant to be present in the atmosphere at significant levels. Sprague, 1972).
Don't be so quick to dismiss them. Benzene is also natural in the air but around the Gulf coast we have ridiculously high concentrations of them. Natural does not equate to safe, nor does a high amount of these elements mean they were not put there by planes dumping high concentrations.

The Effect Of Aluminum On The Human Brain
http://concen.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=26049
There are no others, there is only us.
http://FastTadpole.com/
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07-12-2010, 06:03 PM,
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RE: Barium in Chemtrails and Project Blue Beam
(07-12-2010, 07:04 AM)FastTadpole Wrote: Of course aluminum is a natural constituent of soil but that doesn't discount the high heavy metal findings, among other things in the water sample.
Rocks are made of heavy metals. Human activities make airborne acids. Live with it. There are bound to be concentrations of heavy metal salts in water as a consequence.

Quote:Don't be so quick to dismiss them. Benzene is also natural in the air but around the Gulf coast we have ridiculously high concentrations of them. Natural does not equate to safe
Never said it did.

Quote:nor does a high amount of these elements mean they were not put there by planes dumping high concentrations.
Yes it DOES.

The VERY FACT that it is a single instance makes it QUITE CLEAR that they "were not put there by planes dumping high concentrations".
Planes "spraying" from 30,000 feet are HARDLY LIKELY to "pour" it all into ONE SPOT, are they?
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07-13-2010, 03:24 PM,
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RE: Barium in Chemtrails and Project Blue Beam
(07-12-2010, 06:03 PM)JazzRoc Wrote:
(07-12-2010, 07:04 AM)FastTadpole Wrote: Of course aluminum is a natural constituent of soil but that doesn't discount the high heavy metal findings, among other things in the water sample.
Rocks are made of heavy metals. Human activities make airborne acids. Live with it. There are bound to be concentrations of heavy metal salts in water as a consequence.

Quote:nor does a high amount of these elements mean they were not put there by planes dumping high concentrations.
Yes it DOES.

The VERY FACT that it is a single instance makes it QUITE CLEAR that they "were not put there by planes dumping high concentrations".
Planes "spraying" from 30,000 feet are HARDLY LIKELY to "pour" it all into ONE SPOT, are they?

Ok let's assume that the rocks are dissolving due to human activity in raising the acid levels in rain and raising the Ph in rivers, hence releasing more heavy metals into the soil. Does that account for the other elements that are present? Is there any data charting a progressive rise in these levels? I can just find spot sample testings with no baselines other than a 'normal' or 'safe' baseline.

And you would multiply the effects of lots of spraying planes, not a single spray or dumping.
There are no others, there is only us.
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07-13-2010, 06:28 PM,
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RE: Barium in Chemtrails and Project Blue Beam
(07-13-2010, 03:24 PM)FastTadpole Wrote: Ok let's assume that the rocks are dissolving due to human activity in raising the acid levels in rain and raising the Ph in rivers, hence releasing more heavy metals into the soil. Does that account for the other elements that are present? Is there any data charting a progressive rise in these levels? I can just find spot sample testings with no baselines other than a 'normal' or 'safe' baseline.
It will apply to ALL metals that can form soluble salts in those acids. Find out for yourself which they are.
If you use Rosalind Bigbum's findings be aware that metal salt concentrations in rainwater samples have to be balanced against total rainfall, otherwise you are going to read "increased concentration" every time you get REDUCED RAINFALL. (That's WHY she is a shopowner and NOT a scientist.)

Quote:And you would multiply the effects of lots of spraying planes, not a single spray or dumping.
One plane or many planes - spraying will NEVER give you a local "hotspot", will it?
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07-13-2010, 07:29 PM, (This post was last modified: 07-13-2010, 07:41 PM by Deathaniel.)
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RE: Barium in Chemtrails and Project Blue Beam
(06-29-2010, 08:50 PM)Reboot Wrote: Part 1 - Part 2

The means to fool humans into believing the long awaited extraterrestrial saviours have come to save them from themselves requires a lot of barium.

Includes a demonstration of the sound effects.

A Christian perspective.

Posted on May 24, 2009 by v3riTaSs

A very good posting and informative especially for those who do not really know how tech our gov and "secret" agenda folks r.

but it was @ the end of part 2 where he refers to the serpent and the deceptive power of the "devil"...

Personally i'm weird in i believe when we die were worm food no more no less, it's how your remembered that has "everlasting" life... but thats another post.... what i wanted to pipe up bout was the common idea of the serpent being the devil, the serpent is the most ancient name of Nibru (christian wormwood) as it's path is very hard to predict and is constantly changing as it is affected by other objects and it's own gravity. So serpent like.

Now we r a lucky generation as we will get to see (maybe in just last days) and/or live past it's coming. But those who worship the "devil" or Lucifer r those of the Judaism belief structure. Now Christianity due to the man Christ a Buddhist jew has given the "soul" or astral a chance to be saved/ and messages of nature (according to vidic and other Sumerian). As the great creator, acknowledged, but not worshiped by other life forms (not of earth) is an astral being we'r tied to the material (including a body) are unable to fully understand the greater universe. Those we call gods of the material, are those who turned away from there duty (angles) and who after every disaster helps men to regroup and move on, keeping this planet populated.

The Sumerians call them the Annumaki, I like the name and have also prefer it to gods or angles ... Lucifer was/ is perhaps one of them and it was there idea to enslave us and to have gods to worship, that is not the natural order of how a planet forms. It's (religion) even considered a disease in some circles (So I HearIcon_arrow).

However due to where we r in the cosmos' they have free reign from both bargains made with us... (ie your secret groups and world leaders/ etc...), and with the external powers that be. Has the "good" guys slipped in a rep every so often to try to influence us back to the right path... yes. In the past 500 years how much? Was it the good or bad guys who sided with the Germans in ww2 and gave them so much tech, saddened we had been held back and were running out of time, they know where the serpent (nibru) is and by the 1930's so 3000 years and we still had not made it to space, when in the first cycle we had this and more...

Or was it the bad guys Lucifer & the Annumaki who helped there human co-horts who upped the tech race so like one post indicated those who r still here/ trapped or raised here can get the f off this rock before it gets creamed... see they would have not just pieces of the Full story but they would know how all things were being with us in the first cycle...

Sadly some of the things we all want to happen or that we fear will happen prob won't come to pass not because they who hold power the servants still of the "evil/bad". But since times almost up and if it's not too devastating and we live through. Soon we will be close to being where we need to be to receive "other help" against the rogues...

Now telepathy as an added note as mentioned in the article is in near all reported alien contactees say the method of communication preferred. However most ET"S r like us engineered for a purpose, the tech is part of there arsenal, just look to the bible... the enemies of truth or those we worry will deceive us r just try 'n to replicate what they can of the "god" we have all been taught about.

My real concern is they will not fake a rapture, but that they will hide it....?

By all accounts we should with a naked eye based on space/ distance see Nibru by May next year and we're feeling it's effects already as is our sun. If they cloud the sky or set up some holographic trickery to hide it as they all go to bunkers so the rest of us r caught unaware... ouch! and I'd not put it past 'em to do us all dirty like that.

Nibru is scheduled to be closest to us in dec, and will take a few months to pass away like the May- Dec window to arrive so close. So we should be able to see it in the skies for near a year.

Now if they only hide it's approach and blame all the natural disaster on climate change etc... and it's not a ELE then they will definitely have to answer when they come out of there bunkers.... prob will reply they didn't want the masses to panic...Dodgy

But with what happens during these visits... ie world cycles. We're all mostly reduced to scavengers and retards with in a 20 year period, some groups survived in past cycles hence us... and some better then others hence Atlantis/ vs Egypt 3rd cycle...

But the reason for a fake rapture would not be so effective on Christians as on the Muslims who r fanatical, i personally believe for such a religious group there religion should be used as a weapon, Alexander the great i think did just that when conquering the middle east told them it was there gods will and they took it dry. Were the Americans and UN doing such in Iraq now what power would there clerics have against the real LOL "word of god" telling them to shape up and behave... no there cleric's r fucked up liers about shit to keep power and to oppress folks as r 70% of religions so fight fire with fire. i'd use it on clerics let them think they were hearing the voice of Allah and if they didn't comply call them out to there followers as false believers as they heard but did not obey.

No lives r wasted in such an endeavor and if it eases the suffering of the cleric's followers and gets them to civilize why not?... Is it worth the 1000 of lives and billions of dollars the way were doing it now and with no results... Idea
Remember Knowledge is the only thing THEY can't take from you, and Knowledge is Know how, and Know how is Power!!!

Live long and Prosper!!!! Have a plan beyond words, and worry not of why the storm is coming as to how you're going to survive in it!!!!

Deathanyl @gmail!!!!!!
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07-15-2010, 03:42 PM, (This post was last modified: 07-15-2010, 03:43 PM by JazzRoc.)
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RE: Barium in Chemtrails and Project Blue Beam
(07-13-2010, 07:29 PM)Deathanyl Wrote: Personally i'm weird in i believe when we die were worm food no more no less, it's how your remembered that has "everlasting" life... but thats another post...
Good grief. We AGREE on something.

Quote:what i wanted to pipe up bout was the common idea of the serpent being the devil, the serpent is the most ancient name of Nibru (christian wormwood) as its path is very hard to predict and is constantly changing as it is affected by other objects and its own gravity. So serpent like.
Nibiru. Devil. Show me something I can SEE.

Quote:Now we r a lucky generation as we will get to see (maybe in just last days) and/or live past it's coming. But those who worship the "devil" or Lucifer r those of the Judaism belief structure. Now Christianity due to the man Christ a Buddhist jew has given the "soul" or astral a chance to be saved/ and messages of nature (according to vidic and other Sumerian). As the great creator, acknowledged, but not worshiped by other life forms (not of earth) is an astral being we'r tied to the material (including a body) are unable to fully understand the greater universe. Those we call gods of the material, are those who turned away from there duty (angles) and who after every disaster helps men to regroup and move on, keeping this planet populated.
If only what you say were edible, there'd be some utility...

Quote:The Sumerians call them the Annumaki, I like the name and have also prefer it to gods or angles ... Lucifer was/ is perhaps one of them and it was there idea to enslave us and to have gods to worship, that is not the natural order of how a planet forms. It's (religion) even considered a disease in some circles (So I HearIcon_arrow).
It is in THIS circle.

Quote:However due to - snip - with no results... Idea
No, no, no, no, no-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o... (rushes off with fingers in ears) Smile
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