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Anthropogenic Global Warming - sublimetruth.com - Darius Alexander
10-11-2011, 12:20 AM, (This post was last modified: 10-11-2011, 12:22 AM by JazzRoc.)
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RE: Anthropogenic Global Warming - sublimetruth.com - Darius Alexander
(10-08-2011, 12:24 AM)icosaface Wrote: RazzJoc
Ace Fiasco.

Quote:When you burn carbon you are increasing the "blanket" insulation of the Earth, preventing it from radiating the heat it has gained, both from solar radiation and its own radioactivity, back into space. This blanket gets absorbed by the sea, but only if the sea remains cold. But the sea is warming - Where is the evidence that shows that to be what is happening?
Try the web. Use advanced search as a shit scraper to remove fiasco garbage. When you fail I shall lend you a helping hand.

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10-11-2011, 02:24 PM,
#32
RE: Anthropogenic Global Warming - sublimetruth.com - Darius Alexander
(10-07-2011, 09:31 PM)JazzRoc Wrote: When you burn carbon you are increasing the "blanket" insulation of the Earth, preventing it from radiating the heat it has gained, both from solar radiation and its own radioactivity, back into space.
This blanket gets absorbed by the sea, but only if the sea remains cold.
But the sea is warming...

LOL

Is "blanket" insulation a scientific term you found on Wikipedia? What you are speaking about is Carbon particulates, as opposed to Carbon-Dioxide. There is a VAST difference. One is invisible, the other helps create clouds.

Water causes more warming in the atmosphere than Carbon Dioxide. Maybe water evaporation should become the new enemy!

[Image: homeinsulationtips.jpg]
"Blanket" Insulation. The culprit for Climate Change?

Anyway, all this is besides the point, cooling is occurring, so they renamed it "Climate Change". Maybe you didn't get the memo JR.
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10-15-2011, 08:36 PM, (This post was last modified: 10-15-2011, 09:02 PM by JazzRoc.)
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RE: Anthropogenic Global Warming - sublimetruth.com - Darius Alexander
(10-11-2011, 02:24 PM)Dunamis Wrote: Is "blanket" insulation a scientific term you found on Wikipedia?
No. The CO2 acts as a blanket (it insulates). It does this by absorbing and re-emitting infra-red radiation, preventing in part the Earth's shedding of heat into space, as part of that energy is intercepted and re-radiated back to Earth.

Quote:What you are speaking about is Carbon particulates
No it isn't.

Quote:as opposed to Carbon-Dioxide. There is a VAST difference. One is invisible, the other helps create clouds.
Once only, as the particulate ends up in a droplet.
The carbon dioxide isn't consumed by reradiation activity. That IS a vast difference. It will continue working until it is absorbed by a plant or dissolved in the sea. Before it does so it is responsible for GLOBAL DIMMING.



Quote:Water causes more warming in the atmosphere than Carbon Dioxide. Maybe water evaporation should become the new enemy!
Is THAT the wondrous working of your mind?
Water is in equilibrium with the Earth's atmosphere. That means its contribution to warming MUST BE equal to its contribution to cooling and therefore MUST BE a constant presence neither "good" nor "bad".
Carbon dioxide is under no such constraints. The more there is in our atmosphere, the more heat will be trapped under it.
Furthermore, the warmer our atmosphere gets, the more CO2 will be RELEASED by the Earth's tundras, forests. and oceans.
This is a positive-feedback tipping point, to line up with all the other known tipping points, such as polar albedos and ocean clathrates.

Quote:Anyway, all this is besides the point, cooling is occurring, so they renamed it "Climate Change". Maybe you didn't get the memo JR.
Yeah, well, after your preamble there would have to be a lie.
You could argue diminished responsibility as logic has seemed to elude you.
Both heating AND cooling are the consequences of global warming, but most importantly there is also an increased energy of air movements and precipitation, which is why it was renamed climate change.



The atmosphere (I include the oceans) is GAINING HEAT as the proportion of CO2 within it increases. This is a scientific fact no longer debated by real scientists.
Your attempt to obfuscate this fact demonstrates you are a tool of the very people we all despise, the money boys, the oil crew, the tobacco barons. All the money (millions !) they have put into their campaign has had the desired effect in your case.



Not the first time you boys have turned up some irony. It's the ignorance that does it.



Better correct that before the weather elides you. Or I do.


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10-18-2011, 07:46 AM,
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RE: Anthropogenic Global Warming - sublimetruth.com - Darius Alexander
JR once again the voice of total propaganda. Cheers matey.

Quote:Better correct that before the weather elides you. Or I do.

Internet warrior or long distance hardman?


Quote:The atmosphere (I include the oceans) is GAINING HEAT as the proportion of CO2 within it increases. This is a scientific fact no longer debated by real scientists.

Only in your sick wet dreams. You should change your nick from JR to Al Gore's Gimp I think.
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10-21-2011, 04:07 PM, (This post was last modified: 10-21-2011, 04:26 PM by JazzRoc.)
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RE: Anthropogenic Global Warming - sublimetruth.com - Darius Alexander
(10-18-2011, 07:46 AM)nwo2012 Wrote: JR once again the voice of total propaganda. Cheers matey. Internet warrior or long distance hardman? Only in your sick wet dreams. You should change your nick from JR to Al Gore's Gimp I think.
Oh, yeah?

Global Warming Confirmed by Independent Study


[Image: CC.jpg]
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15373071

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10-21-2011, 04:33 PM, (This post was last modified: 10-21-2011, 04:43 PM by nwo2012.)
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RE: Anthropogenic Global Warming - sublimetruth.com - Darius Alexander
Global warming indeed exists. AS A FUCKING NATURAL PHENOMENON!
It is NOT man-made although probably helped along by your "persistent contrails".

Quote:The group led by Nobel Prize (which these days means fuck all btw) winner Geek Fuckface found the world is getting warmer. Well stop the fucking press said someone. Didn't we go through various heating and cooling phases before in history? Before the industrial revolution in fact, so before we were releasing harmless CO2 in large quantities. Geek Fuckface replied no that was from the dinosaur farts.

That makes as much sense as your propaganda.

Just for the record, the polluting corporations should be taxed and held accountable for the massive pollution they cause. But we shouldn't have to foot the bill for some phoney science.
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10-24-2011, 10:46 PM,
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RE: Anthropogenic Global Warming - sublimetruth.com - Darius Alexander
Ran across a blatantly rigged experiment in a Global Warming propaganda video. I'll just provide an excerpt from the conclusion the entire unedited experiment is available at the destination URL.

Quote:Mr. Gore’s Climate 101 experiment is falsified, and could not work given the equipment he specified. If they actually tried to perform the experiment themselves, perhaps this is why they had to resort to stagecraft in the studio to fake the temperature rise on the split screen thermometers.

The experiment as presented by Al Gore and Bill Nye “the science guy” is a failure, and not representative of the greenhouse effect related to CO2 in our atmosphere. The video as presented, is not only faked in post production, the premise is also false and could never work with the equipment they demonstrated. Even with superior measurement equipment it doesn’t work, but more importantly, it couldn’t work as advertised.

The design failure was the glass cookie jar combined with infrared heat lamps.

Gore FAIL.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/10/18/replicating-al-gores-climate-101-video-experiment-shows-that-his-high-school-physics-could-never-work-as-advertised/

So a big gotcha on Al Gore (and Bill Nye).. right? Well it does show an exaggerated dramatization but the premise that atmospheric CO2 can create a greenhouse effect is true.

So when quotes like this..

Quote:The atmosphere (I include the oceans) is GAINING HEAT as the proportion of CO2 within it increases. This is a scientific fact no longer debated by real scientists.

Are met with responses like this...

Quote:Only in your sick wet dreams. You should change your nick from JR to Al Gore's Gimp I think.

It makes for low hanging fruit discussions dismissing all claims on both sides by presenting trite Strawman arguments and talking points without going into any detail. Meanwhile people like Bill Gates and the UN IPCC are putting forth policy and legislation based on assumption or backing the "just in case" approach without anything definitive by way of causal influence that hasn't been massaged or outright manipulated into theoretical model projections fueled by lies and biased conjecture to fit a railroaded social, ideological and economical control agenda.

NASA and NOAA are hardly independent since they have vested interested tied with their partners in solar, government and the biofuel industry whom they are working side by side with; and they have been called on their data poisoning on more than one occasion.

That particular study that JazzRoc presents recently upthread does little to offset data sets that are polluted due to the Urban Heating Effect.

That said I would support a truly independent study to settle the science.
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10-25-2011, 12:18 PM,
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RE: Anthropogenic Global Warming - sublimetruth.com - Darius Alexander
I really dont think Bill Gates, eugenics and depopulation vaccine pushing asshole, has any good intentions so I think you are wrong in this statement.

Quote:Meanwhile people like Bill Gates and the UN IPCC are putting forth policy and legislation based on assumption or backing the "just in case" approach without anything definitive by way of causal influence

and the reason I dont put forward any 'real detail' is because this CO2 global warming BS doesnt merit precious wasted time.
And my post is certainly not a dig at you FT, I have the utmost respect for your postings.
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11-14-2011, 08:44 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-14-2011, 08:47 PM by JazzRoc.)
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RE: Anthropogenic Global Warming - sublimetruth.com - Darius Alexander
(10-24-2011, 10:46 PM)FastTadpole Wrote: the premise that atmospheric CO2 can create a greenhouse effect is true.
One only has to check the history of the science.
"The greenhouse effect will in fact operate even if the absorption of radiation were totally saturated in the lower atmosphere. The planet's temperature is regulated by the thin upper layers where radiation does escape easily into space. Adding more greenhouse gas there will change the balance. Moreover, even a 1% change in that delicate balance would make a serious difference in the planet’s surface temperature. The logic is rather simple once it is grasped, but it takes a new way of looking at the atmosphere — not as a single slab, like the gas in Koch's tube (or the glass over a greenhouse), but as a set of interacting layers."
http://www.aip.org/history/climate/co2.htm
(10-25-2011, 12:18 PM)nwo2012 Wrote: this CO2 global warming BS
But it isn't bullshit (holds up mirror).

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