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Why the NWO will be defeated...
06-20-2010, 10:13 AM,
RE: Why the NWO will be defeated...
Lovin' it. absolutely, every single word.

Quote:It's all about us - billions of us divided. Pushing and pulling for an ideology so we can fit in a nice box. Fuck the box. It about you and me not us and them. Everyone has it in them to be their own leader to take action and control of their own path in life. Isn't that what freedom is? We need not wait for the cue, the green light or the charismatic leader. The world is sorely lacking in critical thinkers that see the world on a . This Apathy and misguided aggression is their choice for those of us that do have a choice and so do we - we all have a choice - the choice of our everyday existence. The way of the to carve out own borders and establish our own way in life. That is the way that we can make a difference in the world. The true way to the promised land the way to a better tomorrow. Unhinged and without the rules and constructs that we are forced into by society that end up ruling us totally and completely.

Maybe the critical thinkers are thinking critically? Maybe they see the scope of the opponent and have decided a vocal uprising with banners and flags isn't the best idea?

I sure as hell hope that they are. That's what I would be thinking if I were planning an action on the true slave-drivers of society...
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06-20-2010, 11:02 AM,
RE: Why the NWO will be defeated...
I truly believe the collective will and awareness is there. It's just disorganized and divided. There can be lots of different ideas moving forward. Isn't that what we all want a freedom to choose our system? It doesn't really matter what it is so long as it respects the life liberty and property of others.

If you got an idea that you can believe in roll with it. If it is living in Zeitgeist land or if it is living on the Mesa in a bus with a shotgun and a patch of weed. Bottom line it should be a free and voluntary system that recognizes the individual in an inverted pyramid.

People are angry, they just need somewhere to channel it. You can bet the strings are being orchestrated in different directions now leading to the computer model view of predictable human behaviour. The real work begins in snipping the strings as many people have grown accustomed to them.

Another human behaviour works in the favour of a positive outcome that though imitation. The group think that has been programmed so long will give way to something new. It will seek lifestyles to emulate so it can better survive. Is the 100th monkey going to pave the way to a new prefabricated idealogical farming system and seek protection from the global nanny state or stand upright and be brave enough to trust and love our fellow mates on this journey. It's a race and we're rounding the bend and approaching the finish.
There are no others, there is only us.
06-20-2010, 11:34 AM, (This post was last modified: 06-20-2010, 11:42 AM by h3rm35.)
RE: Why the NWO will be defeated...
so, in hundredth monkey terms, that would be 1 out of 65 million, right?
but that leaves room for plenty of other ideologies in competition (cough) with yours...

"fuck the box" is beautifully blatant truth... I smelled Bukowski in the kitchen...

but getting people to understand how to realize (that's not redundancy,) that they need to act without a new "9/11" will take waaaay too long (snickers...)

but seriously though, it will.

It takes an instigating, uniting event to get mass axion. (IMO)
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06-20-2010, 12:09 PM,
RE: Why the NWO will be defeated...
You don't think that the combination of economic collapse + unemployment + oil slicks + fake global warming science + a fast paced move to socialism + fake pandemics + food police + police state + multi-pronged censorship + a few wars + an assassinated parliament contingent + manufactured earthquakes and volcanoes fit the bill for a catastrophic event? Or are people really that detached and desensitized? In my corner of the world people aren't talking about the latest movie, parroting celebrity gossip, talking sports and their lawns like they normally do. There is a growing concern over the situation to say the least. Ask the people in Greece, Poland, Spain, The South Eastern US, Gaza, Yemen and Africa what would qualify for a catastrophe. How would you define it? Anything short of a Polar shift, Nukes, Meteors, False Flag Terrorism or Aliens make the grade? Guess it depends what's on TV.
There are no others, there is only us.
06-20-2010, 12:19 PM,
RE: Why the NWO will be defeated...
I didn't say "catastrophe" I said "event" and made a quirky snide comment about "a new pearl harbor," didn't I? I jacked around PNAC points to make my own, right?

If ever there were a time in my lifetime, or the recent lifetimes I've read about, that there needed to be massive social unrest and upheaval, this would be it... I'm honestly on the edge of my seat, but I feel like a Chicago Cubs fan waiting for a world championship.

without an outrageous story that can be presented everywhere with a similar effect, starting among minority communities, it will be an over-boiling pot of nothing more than water vapor.
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06-21-2010, 04:09 AM,
RE: Why the NWO will be defeated...
You guys just keep churning out the brain butter. I love the chats that get going here at concen...
06-21-2010, 07:38 PM,
RE: Why the NWO will be defeated...
in every business, in every household. on every screen you see. in every advert....conversation

whats right?

right for me? right for you? right for us?

the whole thing is a war of attrition. there is NO defeating the NWO any more than there is any way for the NWO to "defeat" us. its like a game of chess in more ways than we can admit to.....if someone wins.....the game is over. Thats the danger. They see us as the ones attacking them. If either side were to win.... the other would have to die.
Its a tight rope of balance. nature in action again....

I think this is not a war that can OR should be won, by either side. As we all have seen on our travels we can wake up with the strangest people through politics.

Before anyone asks what the hell im on about i say.....

dig in, get comfortable. this is going to take more that you. more than your life and millions like you. keep pushing and dont stop, they wont. its our part in the balance of power. keep speaking the truth, even if it hurts. open the minds of those around you not just to this but higher planes of thought. keep them robustly equipped with techniques of mental self defence.

The key, with everything in life, is to keep going. death sets in about give up time. stay strong. have a sense of humour about it all. that's vital. The internet is going mainstream. the masses are as much to blame as the masters.
We will have even more cover than before to chat and share. It can only get worse for them. What they dont understand is, as they get bigger and faster, so do weSmile they have to find a raindrop in a storm. get out there and broadcast. fill the archives. make it too much to ignore. the world cant never know.
10-19-2010, 10:44 AM,
RE: Why the NWO will be defeated...
"event / catastrophic event" that's just semantics, just going off your 9/11 instance as a context guide. I subscribe to a snowball theory as an a different path to the same result. A lot of disgruntled people have had their passion ignited over the past several years. "Let them eat cake" was a final straw in one instance. A lot of people are on the brink of making the jump from concern, to education, to anger, to action and all the various flavours in between.

People just need to realize the impact they can make both personally and collectively. A lot of people suffer from the 'little old me' complex.

To get people to act towards a common goal requires leadership as well and they are coming out of the woodwork.

RE: What's right?

There's a majority consensus on what is here are a few resources:

Universally Preferable Behaviour: A Rational Proof of Secular Ethics by Stefan Molyneux

Philosophy of Liberty - Jonathan Gullible: A Free Market Odyssey

Basically respect for eachother (maybe even love) and their duly gained property. This extends to the biosphere.
There are no others, there is only us.
11-05-2010, 01:06 PM,
RE: Why the NWO will be defeated...
(06-06-2010, 06:05 AM)mxnr Wrote: Brief notes on how and why the NWO system will be defeated:

Think Star Trek.

How is private property viewed in Star Trek?

How is religion viewed in Star Trek?

Star Trek was Gene Roddenberry's way to espouse and promote his collectivist world view through the use of the art of entertainment. Dig into that one!

The New World Order is simply the culmination of political and social systems which develop out of the heart of man. Even with there being an elitist establishment, that class is not really any different to the rest of mankind. They have simply developed the tools required to keep knowledge secret thus giving themselves an advantage over their neighbour.

The bottom feeders generally do the same thing when presented with the opportunity.

While the internet is a wonderful medium for the free flow of ideas and information, it is also a powerful method by which cognitive dissonance can be induced via vast array of conflicting ideas and beliefs thrown out there.

When people have been indoctrinated through public schools, the media, as well as through entertainment it is not the tragedy many would think for the Priests of the New World Order to allow the intellectually crippled
free reign in a pool of confusion.

The Tower of Babel is being rebuilt as we speak.
12-01-2010, 10:18 AM,
RE: Why the NWO will be defeated...
Quote:How is private property viewed in Star Trek?

How is religion viewed in Star Trek?

Took awhile to break the programming (I watched every episode Original -> STTNG -> DS9 -> Voyager)

I think I need to watch it again.

Quote:In a 141-page behemoth of an article in Harvard Law Review with 527 footnotes that she wrote in 2001, entitled “Presidential Administration,” Professor Kagan reveals her propensity to default to the regulatory state in almost all situations. In the article, she lauds the effectiveness of an all-powerful executive branch, which contains and controls the myriad regulatory agencies which currently terrorize most law-abiding citizens. She refers to “a certain kind of dynamism or energy in administration, which entails both the capacity and willingness to adopt, modify or revoke regulations, with a fair degree of expedition, to solve perceived national problems.” She lauds the President’s “central position within the regulatory state to promote a variety of technocratic values.” This talk of “energy,” “dynamism,” and “technocratic values” in government is dialog you would hear in a Star Trek movie lauding a universal controlling federation, rather than in a constitutional republic.
Excerpt from:

Quote:Technocracy Movement

Technocrats believed that politicians and businessmen could not manage a complex, rapidly advancing industrial society. The technocrats proposed replacing politicians with scientists and engineers who had the technical expertise to manage the economy. The technocratic philosophy assumed that energy was the critical factor determining economic and social development. The technocrats measured social change in physical terms: the average number of kilocalories used per capita per day. Money would be replaced by energy certificates, the total supply of which would be determined by the total amount of energy used in the production of goods and services.

The coming of the Great Depression created an opening for some of these radical ideas of social engineering. By late 1932, various groups across the United States were calling themselves "technocrats" and proposing reforms.

By the mid-1930s, interest in the technocracy movement was declining. Most historians have attributed the loss of popularity of the technocracy movement to the rise of Roosevelt's New Deal, a more democratic method of accomplishing the planning and economic reconstruction that the technocrats had called for. According to author Beverly Burris**, the Technocracy movement was interpreted as authoritarian, elitist, or having fascist overtones, and this also led to its losing mainstream appeal.

Many books have discussed the rise and decline of the technocracy movement in the 1930s. One of note is Technocracy and the American Dream: The Technocrat Movement, 1900-1941 by William E. Akin.


The technocratic movement has its origins with the progressive engineers of the early twentieth century and the writings of Edward Bellamy, along with some of the later works of Thorstein Veblen such as Engineers And The Price System written in 1921. William H. Smyth, a Californian engineer, invented the word "technocracy" in 1919 to describe "the rule of the people made effective through the agency of their servants, the scientists and engineers", and in the 1920s it was used to describe the works of Thorsten Veblen.

Early technocratic organisations formed after the First World War in both Europe and the United States. In the U.S., these included Henry Gantt’s "The New Machine" and Veblen’s "Soviet of Technicians". These organisations folded after a short time, but not before Howard Scott attended a series of "Soviet of Technicians" lectures.

Sounds like Zeitgeist / Star Trek to me military structure, a scientific dictatorship,

** Technocracy at work By Beverly H. Burris (p 30-42)

This passage refers to expert management of the populace. How it's popularity was at it's height at a time when there was financial calamity. There was a lot of support from the poor and elderly. It presented a utopian view. Economics was dependant on scarcity and thus capitalism was a poor model that encouraged scarcity and held back advancement and production. Technology and management was the answer to solve the scarcity issue.

Jaques Fresco dubs himself a social engineer. A resource based economy is the pillar of the Zeitgeist Movement. Computers would take the place of decisions taking the place of managers but who programs, analyzes and frames the data?

Decisions were to be fuelled by information people would be programmed and directed for the collective good. Knowledge would be collective (Borg). Politicians and ownership would be replaced with management and expertise controlling the heights of power.

Star Trek = Zeitgeist = Technocracy = New age collectivism

Highly managed and monitored individuals and systems with the promise of utopia.
There are no others, there is only us.
12-06-2010, 07:55 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-16-2010, 09:18 PM by ZeroCenter.)
RE: Why the NWO will be defeated...
Ever consider that this alleged "NWO" is designed to 'fail'?
Do we ever think about the terms we use and how we use them?
When the NWO is successful in 'causing something new', then by definition iisn't it replaced with something else?

Everyone forget the Matrix trilogy movies?
For all resistance to truly end, aren't we led to the same singular conclusion?
Is anything truly ended until peace is established?

So who here is against peace?
* What if the solution is simple & free?:
* Choose Freedom & Be the Change:
12-14-2010, 05:53 AM,
RE: Why the NWO will be defeated...
The Illuminazis are planning World War 3 to set up a pre-text for establishing a global communist dictatorship. Just talking about this isn't going to stop it. It looks like it's too late to prevent World War 3 now, anyway.

The Illuminazi plan to set up United Nations after World War 3 is flawed in that it assumes that UN will still exist after WW3 - there is no such guarantee.

But seriously, their plan is insane - World War 3? Billions of people will die, these people are completely insane and must be stopped.
12-14-2010, 12:48 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-14-2010, 12:59 PM by ZeroCenter.)
RE: Why the NWO will be defeated...
Illuminati were about illumination, i.e. freedom of scientific inquiry born out of suppression by their 'mother church' weren't they? Or was that just a Tom Hank's movie? :-)

re the earlier books quoted: "Philosophy of Liberty - Jonathan Gullible: A Free Market Odyssey"
While it is educational, is it the whole story?
Isn't the problem with all economics paper money + usury?
Debt as Money, I & II should be required viewing before comment on the 'economy' is attempted.
Is there really anything wrong with the 'market', that doesn't start because of the currency? Banksters are the beginning and end cause to all so-called 'economic' problems. Making currency the sought after goal, because of artificially created scarcity caused by usury, is the only sickness: the root cause of the disease. All the growing evils in a society can be traced back to a sick money system (an unequal means of exchange).
* What if the solution is simple & free?:
* Choose Freedom & Be the Change:
12-14-2010, 10:29 PM,
RE: Why the NWO will be defeated...
Illuminazis believe that they are enlightened ("illuminated") and therefore superior to everyone else. They are fighting for a "better" world, which to them means enslaving everyone else and creating a system that will make their children a master race forever. To accomplish this, they want to start World War 3 and then come in with a promise of peace under a one world government. They reason that after a war that kills billions of people, the survivors will be desperate for peace and comforts.

Planning to start World War 3 is where they clearly cross the line by any measure.

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