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Sexuality as Perversion and/or Love :: Influences and Symptoms of Promiscuity
11-14-2013, 05:48 PM,
RE: Sexuality as Perversion and/or Love :: Influences and Symptoms of Promiscuity
(11-13-2013, 01:09 AM)Watchdog Wrote: Having said that, ego may not be the right word to use, as it has several meaning to different people. Should we get into that? Probably not in this thread Smile

Ego is definately a loaded term. In the context of ego-death, as discussed above, I was talking about narcissism/arrogance/grandiosity/falseness/the social or public mask etc. Those parts of us that create depressive uncertainty through conformity.

Ego generally means that part of the psyche that is aware of itself so ego is not necessarily a nefarious thing. Shadow work is essential.

We still have to factor in our animal/mammalian side though. Is modern promiscuity a product of social engineering or is it natural to humans?

My own researches indicate that civilization itself is the product of narcissistic wounding inflicted upon some hunter-gatherers by mother nature; the type of wounding that leads to demanding independence (from nature and its dictates), perfectionism and transcending human limitations to the point of self-hate. Thus behaviour found in natural environments is given a negative value and the opposite is promoted such as feminised males and masculine females.

Our animal side can be called biotruth or the facets of ourselves derived from our wild past. Western humanity is still being domesticated so inevitable clashes occur between attempting to reconcile moving an animal out of its natural habitat into an artificial one. This is even more relevant when you factor in immigration; these people are not as domesticated as western humanity and further clashes occur. This point also has relevance in r/k-theory.

Competition for mates and breeding rights lead to amoral methods to procure mates. There are those who are competitive in terms of face-to-face conflicts and there are those who adopt a more machiavellian strategy. In a society, the conflictingly competitive will usually secure more breeding rights via elevated social standing; the machiavellian, conflict averse will back any method that eliminates their superiors. Bringing in 'foreigners' and supporting them (immigration) works wonders in destroying your own societies' main competitors and those of a lower social standing are elevated by default. It is again based on self-hate.

Lets make it more complex by introducing the social manipulators and how the desire to reproduce is key to social manipulation. We may have rulers in the form of governments or kings before them but they also had rulers above them coming from the mystery tradition who had an immense understanding of human nature. The manipulation of rulers and the ruled is how the mystery tradition keep control. You allow the rulers to give in completely to their ego (grandiose version) and you make the ruled sexually frustrated. That pent up frustration is the root of creating revolutionary grass-roots movements to topple the rulers in a cyclical way. This ensures the people you put in charge of different territories do not amass enough power to challenge the mystery tradition and their goals while allowing their agendas to continue under new movements while using the same manipulation strategy, perfected after thousands of years of practice, to control the new unsuspecting bunch.

Think of Islamic societies' and the concept of suicide bombers and virgins in paradise. Said societies often allow the men of higher social standing to have several wives meaning a large proportion of men have no breeding opportunities. Manipulate that sexual frustration via a promise of what awaits in paradise and you can create armies. Think of the Assassins of Knights Templar lore and the sexual manipulation they used for new converts.

You have a similar thing in the modern west. How many leftists would actually advocate leftism if they were sexually satisfied? Is leftism's liberal stance on sexuality a core reason it has so many adherents? You have all these charisma-less, effete, weak, fat, control freak professors telling us how we should live and what to think. You can study the history of socialism/communism and see the damage caused by so-called intellectuals. Would these people obtain breeding rights in the societies of old? All their frustrations are what simultaneously motivates them for revolution and is at the heart of their ease of manipulation.

Now all these articles hint at an extremely promiscuous society. The fact is there are a handful of men with the majority of (loose) women. There are a ridiculous number of men with no sexual prospects for a variety of reasons. By constantly bombarding them with sexual imagery, the men conform to what the mysteries demand; become part of the slave workforce, elevate your social standing and opportunities for sex will increase. They also become more sexually frustrated.

I can pretty much guarentee that the majority of men who make up future revolutionary movements will be sexually frustrated.
11-20-2013, 01:01 AM,
RE: Sexuality as Perversion and/or Love :: Influences and Symptoms of Promiscuity
R.R. "
Ego generally means that part of the psyche that is aware of itself so ego is not necessarily a nefarious thing."

I think that is where I was going with my thinking process... Not too sure...

Have you read any of R. Steiner's work? I think he claims that humans have 4 bodies: 1. Physical (mineral), 2. Etheric, 3. Astral, and 4. Ego. And... The ego is largely responsible for taking into account and become in charge of the three (3) other bodies, but this only occurs at a certain age, and only fully for certain people. So... As such, what most call "ego" comes from more modern psychology and relates to what has already been described above in this thread, but "ego", more esoterically or as described in occult sciences such, is something else. It is the "least evolved body" of humans that can consolidate the whole, spiritually speaking. And ohhh... I may have spoken of this in my own terms, as I'm still in the observation and analyzing phase of knowing; not yet ready to conclude.

So, again, what is "ego"?
Paix, Amour et Lumiere
11-20-2013, 06:49 AM,
RE: Sexuality as Perversion and/or Love :: Influences and Symptoms of Promiscuity
Maybe ego is irrelevant especially if one agrees that it is heavily intertwined with or dictated to by subconscious desires. To keep the thread relevant, how about a discussion of female hypergamy?

Essentially hypergamy is simply moving up the so-called social ladder which is often times based on material accumulation as well as social influence.

Lets link concepts.

Were leftist policies over the last two centuries really about creating an egalitarian society with a removal of class distinctions or were they rooted in the envy of the poor against the rich? This would allow them to overthrow the upper classes effectively enabling everyone below to move up a rank. Thus these policies had nothing to do with removing class distinctions; rather they were for simple reorganisation of classes.

Reorganising classes is essential for the capstone above the pyramid; it stops the class below you ever being able to challenge you while also creating a new and easier to control class.

Irrespective of left or right, both wings are attached to the same beast of human and nature hating forms of civilization, social organisation and technological progress. Technology is simply the techniques employed to create something hence why modern technology still carries social status along with a dehumanizing aspect that will make humans obsolete.

Hypergamy ensures this system remains in place. Females are much more likely to practice hypergamy which is a key and overlooked motivator for why males have for thousands of years of civilized existence conformed to the dictates of their government slave masters. Simultaneously, males have been fed a fantasized view of the female through fairytales, fiction etc blinding them in the process.

Which sex then are the true romantics?


Some mystery traditions do equate the female with matter - mother, mater, matter generally due to giving birth to physical life. Spiritual attributes were generally considered to be things such as old fashioned chivalry or basically certain types of behaviours.

What I'm getting at is do a complete reversal of views although don't get entrenched in them.

Question everything.

Now some articles above describe the high status woman as being unable to find a life partner or start a family. Is this because hypergamy can not be settled? Ditto with intelligent women.

As civilization moves on, the people within will continue to utilise deception. The female does this consistently with appearance modification while the male adopts an approach that conforms more to portraying a dominant personality alongside adopting the use of status symbols. Both are trying to deceive the other and the only way to know the truth of the matter is to 'test the goods' so to speak which more often than not exposes the deception and one or both parties move on to test others.

I dislike being harsh in analysing the human condition as such behaviours are inevitable when moving an animal out of its natural environment and then placing several deceptions upon them but truth is still truth and human nature is animal nature.

Promiscuity allows the species to survive. So called honorable mating (monogamy) occurs due to resource scarcity. Even the differences in orgasm time achieves a better outcome for reproduction.

Intercourse is no guarentee of impregnation. Sex in the wild is not the same as in the bedroom with walls blocking out sound.

In the wild, screams will alert others as to whats going on. The male orgasms within a few minutes while the female requires around another 15 minutes. Other males being alerted means they can take advantage of a sexually dissatisfied female. Several males can then deposit their seed and chances of impregnation will increase. In the modern world this highlights the importance of sexually satisfying.

Also in the modern world, hypergamy goes a huge way towards explaining the appeal of materialism.

Anyway transcendance is worth studying and thats where the ego returns. Grandiose egotism finds appeal within materialism yet the ego that is now aware of this aspect of its subconscious now has a choice to make.
11-20-2013, 11:03 AM,
RE: Sexuality as Perversion and/or Love :: Influences and Symptoms of Promiscuity
In response to the fact that the sloppy seconds and thirds etc in the wild are quite natural it spurned me to consider another aspect of motherhood/nurturing the species that could be called into question.

If breast milk is packed full of antibodies and those antibodies are passed from mother to child via suckling would it not create a super babies if they suckled on as many mammary glands as possible? This would provide the optimal level of immune defence would it not?

That is assuming that it is true that breast milk carries antibodies.. but this theory also assumes that those antibodies are genetically compatible with an unrelated child.

I also read that milk (including) contains casein so moms develop a chemical bond with their child via breast feeding. Well it is more like a forced addiction to mama's milk since casein has similar addictive properties to heroin.

Which brings me full circle. Sex in of itself is addictive because of the endorphin rush; but is there anything else involved that would 'addict' one person to another after sex, perhaps a female mechanism to benefit from a monogamous husband? This chemical addiction if it exists would create conflicted feeling as casual sex and variety is good for the individual male to pass the seed but I see the casual sex promoted more fervently but that would appear to be a destruction of the family play not a eugenics policy - that comes with putting toxic waste on the male organ in the form of lubes and latex, and pumping people full of estrogen.

Case in point: One of the most explosive industries in the world today are fertility clinics.
There are no others, there is only us.
11-20-2013, 11:29 PM,
RE: Sexuality as Perversion and/or Love :: Influences and Symptoms of Promiscuity
Read up on wet nurses FT, women have breastfed other children for thousands of years. It was even a profession and royalty of bygone eras used the practice. That may explain some of the psychopathic tendencies of elites through history due to their inability to bond to their mothers rendering bonding and empathy amongst those of lower classes even more difficult.

On the subject of orgasm, chemicals and bonding lets not forget oxytocin which increases bonding but apparently only to one's own - in other words it promotes ethnocentrism.

Quote: Oxytocin promotes human ethnocentrism


Human ethnocentrism—the tendency to view one's group as centrally important and superior to other groups—creates intergroup bias that fuels prejudice, xenophobia, and intergroup violence. Grounded in the idea that ethnocentrism also facilitates within-group trust, cooperation, and coordination, we conjecture that ethnocentrism may be modulated by brain oxytocin, a peptide shown to promote cooperation among in-group members. In double-blind, placebo-controlled designs, males self-administered oxytocin or placebo and privately performed computer-guided tasks to gauge different manifestations of ethnocentric in-group favoritism as well as out-group derogation. Experiments 1 and 2 used the Implicit Association Test to assess in-group favoritism and out-group derogation. Experiment 3 used the infrahumanization task to assess the extent to which humans ascribe secondary, uniquely human emotions to their in-group and to an out-group. Experiments 4 and 5 confronted participants with the option to save the life of a larger collective by sacrificing one individual, nominated as in-group or as out-group. Results show that oxytocin creates intergroup bias because oxytocin motivates in-group favoritism and, to a lesser extent, out-group derogation. These findings call into question the view of oxytocin as an indiscriminate “love drug” or “cuddle chemical” and suggest that oxytocin has a role in the emergence of intergroup conflict and violence.

Essentially then, human biology seems to show that 'traditional' relationships promote better cohesion amongst families and race. Divide and conquer stipulates that the family unit must be destroyed and as a consequence the notion of race which in some ways is extended family. It just shows more of the truths found within r/K theory and further displays how the apparent mindsets of the left and the right are more rooted in biology than the propagandists occupying positions of public perception would have you believe - as per usual.

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