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Sexuality as Perversion and/or Love :: Influences and Symptoms of Promiscuity
08-30-2011, 02:12 AM,
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RE: Sexuality as Perversion and/or Love :: Influences and Symptoms of Promiscuity
Quote:Bondage: This practice involves tying up the other person, preventing them from moving by restraining them with ropes, straps or chains which can be simply arranged or intricately put together.
if it's consensual then wtf is wrong with it?
bondage is fine and i am willing to bet that a lot more people have done a bit of bondage than you reckon..lol

Quote:Exhibitionism: This term refers to gaining pleasure from exposing one’s genitals to members of the public or taking part in a public sexual encounter. Both of these practices are illegal when in a public place. In the UK, the 2003 Sexual Offenses Act classifies such activities as public exposure, which can result in a prison sentence of up to 2 years.
maybe legally speaking but exhibitionists might take issue and tell you it's a bit of a broader church than that..lol

Quote:Fetishism: This describes becoming sexually excited by particular inanimate objects or groups of objects. This can be anything from latex, to women’s underwear, to stilettos, leather, lace or fur.
again if it's consensual then groovy.
i used to, and still do to some extent make a living from the fetish scene.
previously as a club promoter and DJ and now just as a DJ at amongst other things fetish nites and goth/ebm nights(a bit of a crossover of scenes).
Me and my gf share some fetish tastes and we are a healthy couple.. i don't get the prob

As i have said before
what-ever floats yer boat as long as it doesn't sink mine

R.R.. am confuzzled as to this stuff here... albeit i am downloading and will look at it and watch in detail but a few things caught my eye from the description, these are not things addressed to you but, as i said, things that caught my eye straight off
Quote:http://concen.org/tracker/torrents-details.php?id=24673
Quote:Description:
From Adullam Films (Secret Mysteries of America's Beginning, A Lamp In The Dark, Hidden Faith of The Founding Fathers)
i have seen "the faith of the founding fathers" and found it to be laced with a heavy Christian bias.
Quote:Further explained is that the Kinsey data laid the foundation for sex education -- training teachers, psychologists and even Catholic priests in human sexuality. What has been the consequence?
i am downloading this to have a look but from the description it seems to infer that teaching catholic priests in sexual matters resulted in a rise in their practise of sexual things(by that you know what i mean)
however in reality it's just that they(the ones who commit sexual offences) are being reported more and being caught more due to this being the information age and word gets about more thus things are more widely reported.

As for Kinseys research, it's well published and well documented so asking where it came from is kinda daft...

if it's consensual, people are not being killed or raped, no kids or animals are brought into the equation then what's the beef?
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08-30-2011, 03:09 PM,
#32
RE: Sexuality as Perversion and/or Love :: Influences and Symptoms of Promiscuity
Quote:As for Kinseys research, it's well published and well documented so asking where it came from is kinda daft...
okay.. i stand corrected on kinsey.. i have managed to get hold of the yorkshire TV documentary "kinseys paedophiles" as well and will upload it after i watch it.
opened my eyes a tad however i did think that the claims that most gay people are paedo's was a bit sensationalist to be honest.
Also i found that the claims kinsey was to blame for clergy being "deviants" was also bollocks... as i said before it's just that these thin gs are now being reported more and more and in this, the information age.. word spreads father and quicker than before.
also the claim that the only route away from this is through god.. and specifically jesus is utter shite in my personal view.

i do still stand by what i said
Quote:if it's consensual, people are not being killed or raped, no kids or animals are brought into the equation then what's the beef?

i also don't think that sex education is a bad thing.
now maybe there is a difference in sex education in this country to America in that the documentary says that science based sex education is based on kinsey.......
i remember that sex education started in my classes at age11/12 (primary 7) with a TV program called "living and growing"
and it was more to do with biology and how babies were made than anything else.
i don't recall any type of kinsey type stuff there at all
and then continued later on in what would have been 1st in a normal secondary but seeing as i went to a Steiner school it doesn't really work like that there but sex education was there and to be frank not very kinsey in it's lessons.
it was abotu sexual health and safety, pregnancy prevention, venereal diseases a VERY brief bit about how sometimes men like men and girls like girls and sometimes both.. then very quickly moved onto another topic to avoid questions which the teacher, bless her, was obviously uncomfortable in answering.
we however, being enquiring little shit gloried in asking the questions for no other reason that ejoying seeing our teacher squirm.... kids are like that aged 15..lol
As for the age that sex education should be taught i think it should be the same as in my day.. starting around 11/12

however this has indeed piqued interest in kinseys methodology and i cannot say i agree at all with it and find it to be immoral in many ways especially with regards to the more than questionable ways research was conducted on child sexuality.

i do not say this from a judeo-christian stand point , but simply from the stand point that those methods were fucking outrageous,illegal and bag out of order and the fucker should have been locked up , at the very least for conspiracy to harm children and other charges for encouraging and harbouring criminals.

i will say though that sexual predators, paedophiles etc have ALWAYS been there in all socio-economic and sub groups of sexuality NO GROUP IS FREE AND CLEAR, and sadly , will always be around and i don't think that the cure is to follow judeo-christian ethics or as stated in this particular documentary ,salvation through jesus is the cure.

the final part of the documentary says about how the bloke called Sayyid Qutb who was one of the Muslim Brotherhoods leading members and how he was an influence on Ol osamas boys.. now while that may be true... the statement also claims that kinsey was the was quoted by him as proof of American debauchery.. and that may be so too but Qutb also thought American society was obsessed with materialism, violence and finally.. debauchery....

it says Qutbs writing helps fan the flames of Islamic hatred against America then states that he is the "FAther of Al-Qa-Ida"
thus insinuating that kinsey is partly to blame for the problems America faces in regards to Islam...

i think we can all agree that Americas problems with Islam are far more to do with it's foreign policy than with bloody kinsey.

A final note is that they bang on about the fouding fathers being so, so christian and such in this while in their other documentary "The Faith of the Founding Fathers" the film makers go out their way to point out that maybes they weren't very christian at all.... or at times not christian full stop.
contradictory messages indeed.

seems they do like to pick and chose to appeal to American patriotic thought and also to judeo-christian thought.
that so is just an aside and observation

Anyways R.R. good call on the kinsey thing.. was indeed a bit of an eye opener with regards to methodology and what a bastard he was.

However i DO think that sex education IS important, not necessarily methods sprouting from his research though but you have to teach kids about how things happen, how to avoid pregnancy, how to avoid disease and guide as to how to have a happy and healthy sexual existence. Make them aware there are gay/straight and bi because, that in reality is what we have in the real world.
and that it MUST be consensual, not hurt or harm done, no rape, no kiddies and no animals then i think it's all good.

YMMV but that's my thought

lemme know f you want me to up the Yorkshire Tv doc and i will

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08-30-2011, 08:00 PM,
#33
RE: Sexuality as Perversion and/or Love :: Influences and Symptoms of Promiscuity
@pax681

I think a lot of the questions you posed have been answered, so to avoid repeating here's the post in question:

http://concen.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=31636&pid=224106#pid224106

The other article I added for the sake of definitions, I wasn't passing judgment on the activities in question.

pax681 Wrote:i am willing to bet that a lot more people have done a bit of bondage than you reckon

Well I reckon it is a secret for a lot of people, many you'd never suspect of so if its more than what I reckon, I might be the only one NOT doing it! But as I mentioned in the above link, I don't care what consenting adults do in private.

pax681 Wrote:R.R.. am confuzzled as to this stuff here

I know you were referring to 'The Kinsey Syndrome', but I'll just state that as threads tend to take a life of their own, it eventually leads to related themes and that particular documentary was quite relevant in light of how the thread evolved, which started off with a discussion about incest, and how they would use the homosexual argument to justify it and I speculated that it won't be long before the same arguments are used to justify pedophilia. That discussion is just below the post I linked to above. In fact it was through 'The Kinsey Syndrome' documentary that I was made aware of NAMBLA and just recently, at the B4U-ACT Conference, these arguments were presented:

Quote: Pedophiles are “unfairly stigmatized and demonized” by society.
 There was concern about “vice-laden diagnostic criteria” and “cultural baggage of wrongfulness.”
 “We are not required to interfere with or inhibit our child‟s sexuality.”
 “Children are not inherently unable to consent” to sex with an adult.
 “In Western culture sex is taken too seriously.”
 “Anglo-American standard on age of consent is new [and „Puritanical‟]. In Europe it was always set at 10 or 12. Ages of consent beyond that are relatively new and very strange, especially for boys. They‟ve always been able to have sex at any age.”
 An adult‟s desire to have sex with children is “normative.”
 Our society should “maximize individual liberty. … We have a highly moralistic society that is not consistent with liberty.”
 “Assuming children are unable to consent lends itself to criminalization and stigmatization.”
 “These things are not black and white; there are various shades of gray.”
 A consensus belief by both speakers and pedophiles in attendance was that, because it vilifies MAPs, pedophilia should be removed as a mental disorder from the American Psychiatric Association‟s (APA) Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), in the same manner homosexuality was removed in 1973.
 Dr. Fred Berlin acknowledged that it was political activism, similar to that witnessed at the conference, rather than scientific considerations that successfully led to the declassification of homosexuality as a mental disorder: The reason “homosexuality was taken out of DSM is that people didn‟t want the government in the bedroom,” he said.
 Dr. Berlin appeared to endorse the politically maligned clinical practice of “reparative therapy” for homosexuals and pedophiles alike, saying, “If someone, for their own
reasons, doesn‟t want to live a homosexual lifestyle, I tell them that it‟s hard but I‟ll try to
help them.”
 The DSM ignores that pedophiles “have feelings of love and romance for children” in the
same way adult heterosexuals and homosexuals have romantic feelings for one another.
 “The majority of pedophiles are gentle and rational.”
 The DSM should “focus on the needs” of the pedophile, and should have “a minimal
focus on social control,” rather than obsessing about the “need to protect children.”
 Self-described “gay activist” and speaker Jacob Breslow said that children can properly
be “the object of our attraction.” He further objectified children, suggesting that
pedophiles needn‟t gain consent from a child to have sex with “it” any more than we need
consent from a shoe to wear it. He then used graphic, slang language to favorably
describe the act of climaxing (ejaculating) “on or with” a child. No one in attendance
objected to this explicit depiction of child sexual assault.

http://www.catholicleague.org/images/upload/image_201108224601.pdf

So the issue is probably where to draw the line and how can those lines be 'justified' in light of what has already been allowed to happen - as we know things rarely if ever stand still - you either have people being so disgusted that rights are repealed or society is changed so much that newer, more perverse rights are legitimated. As isolated events there is a very different way of looking at the issues in hand. However the way I view these topics is encapsulated in this Aldous Huxley quote, that I won't tire of constantly repeating:

Quote:'As political and economic freedom diminishes,
sexual freedom tends compensatingly to increase.

And the dictator (unless he needs cannon fodder
and families with which to colonize empty or
conquered territories) will do well to encourage
that freedom. In conjunction with the freedom to
daydream under the influence of dope and movies
and the radio, it will help to reconcile his subjects
to the servitude which is their fate.'

http://concen.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=35849&pid=218370#pid218370

That's the context I look at these articles in. I've studied enough to realise we are heading towards a dystopia, and as such, appealing to perverse sexual habits are necessary due to the stigma behind them, thus the people who go for them are likely to be corruptable - which is very necessary in a dystopic world (and carry a great ability to blackmail bureaucrats) - and also because they mask the, what should be, obvious abuses of power by the powers that be. One wonders how many very provable conspiracies may have been averted if the public were a little less preoccupied with getting the sexual desires fulfilled.

pax681 Wrote:however in reality it's just that they(the ones who commit sexual offences) are being reported more and being caught more due to this being the information age and word gets about more thus things are more widely reported.

I'd say its a bit more strategic than that behind the scenes. Basically you can blackmail and manipulate people based on their sexual habits (and many other habits) and if they don't do what they are told, you simply shop them in which also serves as a warning to others. Remember most public organisations spend a lot of time cultivating a publically acceptable image, essentially to hide some undesirable facet of themselves. That will vary between individuals but it does create an environment to allow very good 'fakers' to get in these systems. Politics is the one field where I'd instantly suspect a large proportion of people to be involved in many activities that would destroy their careers if made public. This documentary will better explain what I'm getting at - if possible can you upload it to the tracker as I don't think it is on there?

Quote:Political corruption is nothing new, but it's nonetheless shocking when stories come to light.

Channel 4 explore how political influence helped Ronnie Kray to make his firm untouchable using more than just violence.

In 1964 the Sunday Mirror made allegations of a homosexual relationship between 'a peer and a gangster'. Namely, Tory Lord Bob Boothby and notorious criminal, Ronnie Kray.

Still reeling from the Profumo scandal, The Conservative party's chances of re-election would certainly be ruined by rumours of illegal gay sex parties, involving extreme activities, known criminals and prominent politicians.

Yet despite photographic evidence and leaks from Scotland Yard, which supported the allegations, the Mirror mysteriously retracted their story, sacked the editor, apologised and paid Boothby a record payout in damages. The Krays went on to be one of the most powerful criminal gangs that London has ever known.

The Gangster & The Pervert Peer explores how a Tory Lord with a passion for kinky sex and a Labour MP with a penchant for danger made it possible for Ronnie Kray to make his gang untouchable - leading to a cross-party cover up at the highest level of government.

Using eye witness accounts combined with archive footage, this documentary exposes the truth which lay behind the headlines. It reveals how Lord Boothby and Labour MP Tom Driberg, a respected and popular intellectual, became involved with a murderous psychopath leading to both political parties suppressing the story.

But the story didn't stop there. Over forty years later, recently discovered documents from the public records office suggests that other as yet unidentified influential public figures were influenced by the Kray twins, but have never been brought to justice.

A fascinating investigation which explicitly depicts just how powerful the Kray twins were in their heyday.

http://tv.sky.com/the-gangster-the-pervert-peer

pax681 Wrote:i do not say this from a judeo-christian stand point , but simply from the stand point that those methods were fucking outrageous,illegal and bag out of order and the fucker should have been locked up

While I agree, it just highlights that values change and not always for the better. What we are observing, and I think it is reasonably documented in this thread alone, is the mass change in those value systems that are allowing these things to become more acceptable - and how it is being done and essentially why - by dwelling on that Huxley quote.

pax681 Wrote:i will say though that sexual predators, paedophiles etc have ALWAYS been there in all socio-economic and sub groups of sexuality NO GROUP IS FREE AND CLEAR, and sadly , will always be around and i don't think that the cure is to follow judeo-christian ethics or as stated in this particular documentary ,salvation through jesus is the cure.

Agreed, although we do have to be vigilant and not be afraid to say something even if we are accused of 'being a Christian' or not. Sometimes my own paranoia says to me thats why the Christians are at the forefront of these debates - it instantly discredits what they are arguing against as they are pretty much ridiculed outside of Christian circles - an excellent (in a Machiavellian way) method of perception management by devious behind the scenes powers.

pax681 Wrote:A final note is that they bang on about the fouding fathers being so, so christian and such in this while in their other documentary "The Faith of the Founding Fathers" the film makers go out their way to point out that maybes they weren't very christian at all.... or at times not christian full stop.
contradictory messages indeed.

I know what you mean, although I will say 'The Hidden Faith of the Founding Fathers' is an excellent documentary to debunk the claim that America was founded as a Christian nation. The problem is one of truth seeking - so much of peoples' conception about history are just plain wrong so maybe it was a strategic move as the Patriot/Christian community are heavily invested in their own historical myths, but barring a few obvious errors, I think the documantary (Kinsey Syndrome) made its point well.

pax681 Wrote:lemme know f you want me to up the Yorkshire Tv doc and i will

I already have it somewhere on one of my hard drives but I can't speak for others. I'm sure it will get a fair few downloads though so you might aswell upload it - and that other one I mentioned above.
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09-06-2011, 05:57 PM, (This post was last modified: 09-06-2011, 06:04 PM by R.R.)
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RE: Sexuality as Perversion and/or Love :: Influences and Symptoms of Promiscuity
Quote:Convictions for sex offences on children up 60% in six years

2 September 2011

By Rebecca Cafe BBC News

The number of people convicted of sex offences on children aged under 16 in England and Wales has increased by nearly 60% in six years.

A Freedom of Information request to the Ministry of Justice found that in 2005, 1,363 people were convicted while in 2010, it was 2,135.

The rise has been attributed to better detection and raised awareness.

Child protection groups say the number is relatively small and that it remains a grossly under-reported crime.

NSPCC head of strategy and development Lisa Harker said: "It's difficult to tell if these figures indicate an increase in the number of sex offences being committed against children.

"It may be that more people - adults and children - are becoming aware of abuse and so are reporting cases to the police and other authorities.

"Nevertheless it's still a relatively small number of convictions considering child sex abuse is a big problem."

She said last year police in England and Wales were notified of more than 23,000 offences and that recent research by the NSPCC suggested one in 20 secondary school children had been sexually assaulted.

Donald Findlater from the Lucy Faithfull Foundation, a child protection charity which works with sexual offenders and organisations to help prevent abuse, said the increase in convictions could suggest courts were increasingly likely to find people guilty, even if the number of children reporting abuse remained the same.

However, if it indicated that children were feeling more confident to report a crime that in the past may have been too difficult, he was encouraged.

"They need to have the language skills to say what's happening to them and to understand it's wrong," he said.

"It's still the case that most children who are sexually abused do not report it."

Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre (Ceop) chief executive Peter Davies said: "It is good news as it's a good indicator that police services and others are getting their act together."

He said police forces had changed how they investigated child sex abuse and officers have had specific training.

Mr Davies added that authorities did not use conviction numbers as a primary measure of success because it was an under-reported crime and hard to prosecute where there tended to be few witnesses.

The MoJ publishes statistics of sexual offences on children every quarter, however, it does not include children who are raped. These figures are included in the total of convictions for rape on all ages.

The figures obtained by the BBC cover all sex offences on children.

A Crown Prosecution Service spokesperson said the increase in prosecutions was because all the criminal justice agencies had made a concerted effort to offer support to victims throughout the process from the start of the investigation to giving evidence at trial.

This can include a special interview suite at the police station or a Sexual Assault Referral Centre (Sarc), screens in court or giving evidence through a video link, and support from a dedicated witness care unit.

Other figures released by the MoJ to the BBC under a Freedom of Information request show that up to January of this year, 281 people had been convicted of meeting a child following sexual grooming on the internet, since it was made illegal in 2004.

Separately, the Lucy Faithfull Foundation says calls by internet offenders to its helpline quadrupled since January 2005, from 124 calls to 493 in 2010.

Mr Findlater said the internet was changing sex offenders' behaviour by making access to the forbidden much easier.

"The internet has amplified and distorted human behaviour such as grooming," he said.

"Before the internet, offenders had to take significant risks, normally by leaving the country to take pictures. Most didn't think about it and didn't try."

And Mr Davies said: "Offending has always been there but the internet brings it into the open however it's also an investigative opportunity to find people as well. It's a double-edged sword."

An MoJ spokesperson said the Child Sex Offender Disclosure Scheme (where parents are able to discover if someone who has contact with their child is a convicted paedophile) which was rolled out to all police forces in England and Wales earlier this year was "a major step forward in our ability to protect children from sex offenders".

The spokesman added that the government will publish in the autumn an action plan to tackle child sexual exploitation, which will build on existing guidance and "our developing understanding of this dreadful abuse, including through local agencies' work around the country".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14596811







Quote:Studying the web's impact on sex offenders

25 July 2011

By Mark Ward Technology correspondent, BBC News

In May 2011, Lincolnshire Police announced that it had broken up a web-based news group that sold and distributed images of child sex abuse.

A four-year investigation named Operation Alpine led to the closure of the site and resulted in 132 UK children being identified and safeguarded. In addition, 55 arrests have been made of people who ran and used the site. More arrests are expected.

The vast majority of the 200 UK suspects who accessed the illegal images were not previously known to the police.

It is a feature that crops up time and again during investigations of sites that peddle child sex abuse images, said Mike Moran, Interpol's co-ordinator on child abuse.

"The vast majority of people being arrested for possession of child sex abuse material are between 25-45, white and taxpayers," he said. "Those people are not normally the ones that come to the police's attention."

Mr Moran believes that is odd because the web's openness and lack of anonymity make it a poor choice for anyone breaking the law.

"From a law enforcement point of view and a sex offender point of view the web is not the ideal source of this material," said Mr Moran.

Established offenders prefer to get material they covet via more covert sources such as invitation-only discussion forums, peer-to-peer networks and dedicated file transfer sites, he explained.

When images of child sex abuse appear on the web there's usually a very obvious motive.

"The web is only used where there is an attempt to monetise this material," he said.

That view stands in contrast to the other places where established abusers trade content, not for cash, but on a like-for-like exchange basis.

In the UK, the Internet Watch Foundation shuts down websites where images of child sex abuse are being shared and offered for sale. In 2010, the IWF's annual report said that it knew of 14,602 sites peddling images. About 59 pages a day were added to that list.

Most of the reports about sites hosting the images come from members of the public that stumble across the material, said Emma Lowther, a spokesperson for the IWF.

Much of the material found online is simply copied from elsewhere, she explained.

"A lot of the content is recycled," she said. "As soon as an image is put up in one place it can be copied and replicated elsewhere."

The ease with which content can be copied and shared creates its own problems for police forces as they comb through it to identify victims, abusers and networks.

Operation Alpine netted more than one million images and 6,000 films. Other operations have produced similarly huge amounts of material.

In many cases it is far too much for any individual to look through and categorise, said Pelle Gara from technology firm Net Clean which helps some police forces catalogue what they find.

Analysing all the content was important, he said, because the charges brought against defendants depend on the severity of the images and films found.

Computers can do the work quickly by reducing images to a digital shorthand. They can compare what has been turned up in a recent raid to older material. The analysis can also aid investigations by teasing out links between sites and offenders.

"The pictures are the constant, not the sites they appear on," he said.

Letting computers do the analysis also means investigators and officers only have to look at content that has never been seen before.

That is good, said Mr Gara, because it reduces the number of images investigators have to look at. The psychological toll of viewing thousands of pictures or videos can be heavy.

While more experienced offenders shun the web when seeking images of child sex abuse, evidence is starting to accumulate about the broader effect it has.

"The web has hugely facilitated exposure to this type of material," said Mr Moran, particularly for a class of what is known as "naive" offenders who are only starting to seek out such content.

That may help to explain why highly professional, educated people that were not known before to police are being caught in possession of the material.


Law enforcement agencies and psychologists are debating the relationship between the availability of the material online and those who are interested in it.

Dr Ethel Quayle, a lecturer in clinical psychology at the University of Edinburgh said that studies have done little to settle the question of what was more important to them - the easy availability of images or a latent sexual attraction to minors.

What was clear, she said, was that the web fulfils many of its founding impulses for the communities of offenders that spring up online.

"The internet was always thought of in its early stages as really good learning environment," she said, "and to some extent that's what we also see if we look in some of the chat logs."

"A large amount of the content is learning from others how not to get caught," she said. Dr Quayle also believes that mixing in such a community helps to legitimise an interest in images of child sex abuse.

"Whatever else it does, no matter how large a step you take into that community, there's growing evidence that hanging out with the bad guys means you may do more," she said. "There's evidence to suggest that, but we are still a long way from knowing what that relationship is."

Dr Quayle said that it was unclear whether individuals would have begun offending, without access to the images.

But the figures are worrying. Although convictions for sexual offences against children are falling, the proportion of offences that relate to internet crimes against children are going up.

"It's a problem that's simply not going away," said Dr Quayle.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14234281
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09-29-2011, 10:50 PM,
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RE: Sexuality as Perversion and/or Love :: Influences and Symptoms of Promiscuity
Came across this torrent while looking for a movie, which I guess has a rape scene in it.

Code:
Directory: 135 Mainstream movie rape scenes

Files:
001. A Clockwork Orange - Adrienne Corri.mpg    16.7 MB
002. Straw Dogs - Susan George.wmv    52.9 MB
003. The Howling (uncensored extended DVD version).wmv    20 MB
004. Death Wish - Kathleen_Tolan and Hope_Lange.avi    23.9 MB
005. Death Wish 2 - Robin Sherwood (rape 1).wmv    21.7 MB
006. Death Wish 2 - Silvana Gallardo (rape 2).wmv    36.2 MB
007. Young Warriors - Lynda Day George.avi    24.5 MB
008. Contraband (Luca il contrabbandiere) - Ivana Monti.wmv    16.9 MB
009. Degradation of Emanuelle - Karin Schubert.avi    57.8 MB
010. Evil Dead - Ellen Sandweiss (uncut tree rape).wmv    18.7 MB
011. Emanuelle and the Last Cannibals - Monica Zanchi.avi    18 MB
012. The Accused - Jodie Foster.wmv    31.4 MB
013. Emanuelle Queen of Sados - Livia Russo.avi    38 MB
014. A Clockwork Orange - rapes 2 and 3.avi    15.2 MB
015. Jaded - Carla Gugino lesbian rape.avi    17.2 MB
016. Last House on Left - Lucy Grantham (bloody).avi    20.5 MB
017. Candy Snatchers - Susan Sennett.avi    11.5 MB
018. Born Innocent 1974 Linda Blair (lesbian rape on TV).avi    14 MB
019. Karpuzcu (Turkish) - long gang rape.wmv    31.4 MB
020. Wild Side - Anne Heche.avi    14.3 MB
021. The Shaming - Anne Heywood (janitor on teacher).avi    19.3 MB
022. Baise-Moi - Karen Lancaume Raffaela Anderson (explicit version).avi    26.3 MB
023. Irreversible - Monica Bellucci -eng subs.avi    98.4 MB
024. L_Amour_Viol - Nathalie Nell (aka Rape_of_Love).avi    37.4 MB
025. Emanuelle Around the World - beastiality-rape.avi    9.1 MB
026. Barbarian Queen - Lana Clarkson.avi    31.2 MB
027. Gutterballs - Candice Lewald (bloody ending).wmv    56.2 MB
028. Jackson County Jail - Yvette Mimieux -rare DVD rip.avi    32.6 MB
029. The Great Ecstasy of Robert Carmichael - Miranda Wilson.avi    9.8 MB
030. Chaos (warning - extremely violent).avi    57.8 MB
031. Soldier Blue - unknown actress.avi    4.8 MB
032. Girl Next Door - Blythe Auffarth.wmv    53 MB
033. The Entity - Barbara Hershey (ghost rape).avi    7.1 MB
034. Essex Boys - Holly Davidson.avi    17.1 MB
035. The Further Adventures of Tennessee Buck - Kathy Shower.avi    24.2 MB
036. La visita del vicio - Patricia Granada.avi    23.5 MB
037. Strange Days - Brigitte Bako.avi    17 MB
038. Straightheads - Gillian Anderson.avi    19.5 MB
039. Women in Cages - Pam Grier-Sofia Moran.avi    21.4 MB
040. Jock Petersen - Wendy Hughes (dvd rip).avi    14.5 MB
041. Tombs of the Blind Dead - Maria Elena Arpon.avi    18.7 MB
042. Tanyas Island - Vanity (of Prince fame) 2 rapes.avi    18.2 MB
043. The Generals Daughter - Leslie Stefanson.avi    9.9 MB
044. Pretty Things aka (Les Jolies choses) - Marion Cotillard.avi    7.8 MB
045. Damned River - Lisa Aliff.wmv    22.8 MB
046. Lipstick - Margaux Hemingway.wmv    51.4 MB
047. Last Exit To Brooklyn - Jennifer Jason Leigh (gang rape).avi    27.8 MB
048. Flesh & Blood - Jennifer Jason Leigh.avi    22.3 MB
049. Once Upon a Time in America - Elizabeth McGovern.avi    20.5 MB
050. Heart of America - Michaela Mann.avi    19.7 MB
051. Cannibal Holocaust Lucia Costantini (violent).avi    22.9 MB
052. Cannibal Holocaust - Francesca Ciardi rape2.avi    24.6 MB
053. Der Freie Wille AKA_The_Free_Will.avi    49.1 MB
054. Because of the Cats - Delia Lindsay.avi    42.8 MB
055. Leaving Las Vegas - Elisabeth Shue.avi    23.5 MB
056. Humongous - Shay Garner (rare uncut Astral studio version).avi    48.5 MB
057. The Stendhal Syndrome - Asia Argento (2 rapes).avi    41.3 MB
058. Prison Heat - Lori Jo Hendrix (3 scenes).avi    33.1 MB
059. Lilian a suja - Argentina Lambertini.avi    31 MB
060. Perdita Durango - Aimee Graham.avi    16.2 MB
061. The War Zone - Lara Belmont (father-daughter).avi    28.5 MB
062. Las Adolescentes - Koo Stark.avi    23.9 MB
063. I Spit On Your Grave - Camille Keaton.wmv    107.6 MB
064. Ilsa - Uschi Digard.avi    21.8 MB
065. The Hills Have Eyes II - Daniella Alonso.avi    17.8 MB
066. Hitch Hike - Corinne Clery.avi    38 MB
067. Savage Streets - Linnea Quigley.avi    12.7 MB
068. Concrete Jungle - Tracey Bregman.avi    15.5 MB
069. The Goat Horn (1972) - Marin Yanev (aka Kozijat Rog).avi    21.4 MB
070. The Goat Horn (1994) - Anelia Dyoulgerova.avi    23.3 MB
071. Men Only - Zoe Telford (Peter_Webber).avi    11.9 MB
072. Things Behind the Sun - Brittany Renee Finamore.avi    39.4 MB
073. 5x2 - Valeria Brun Tedeschi.avi    15 MB
074. Macon County Jail - Ally Sheedy.avi    20.7 MB
075. Werewolf Woman - Annik Bore.avi    14.9 MB
076. Derailed - Jennifer Aniston.avi    25.5 MB
077. Body Shots - Tara Reid.avi    19 MB
078. Boys Don't Cry - Hilary Swank.avi    11 MB
079. Brisas de_amor - Célia Coutinho.avi    18.5 MB
080. Suspect Zero - Chloe Russell.avi    13.4 MB
081. Nightstalker - Christine Long.wmv    9.4 MB
082. Le Journal de Luca - Isabella Ferrari.avi    35 MB
083. Cut and Run - Valentina Forte.avi    19.5 MB
084. The Strange Vice of Mrs. Ward - Edwige Fenech.avi    12.2 MB
085. Opposing Force - Lisa Eichorn.avi    15 MB
086. Dispara (aka Outrage) - Francesca Neri.avi    19.6 MB
087. Progeny - Jillian McWhirter (alien rape).avi.avi    37.4 MB
088. Bad Lieutenant - Frankie Thorn.avi    6.9 MB
089. Showgirls - Gina Ravera.avi    9.6 MB
090. Nanga - Katrin Cartlidge.avi    9.1 MB
091. Le Heaven - Hiep Thi.avi    11.1 MB
092. House of the Park on the Edge - Karoline Mardeck.avi    11.2 MB
093. Le_Passager_De_La_Pluie - Marlène Jobert.avi    24.1 MB
094. Rampage - Valerie Stodghill.avi    15 MB
095. Act of Vengeance - Jo Ann Harris (very rare!).wmv    40 MB
096. Paparazzo - Agata Buze.avi    14.8 MB
097. Eye for Eye - Olivia Burnette.wmv    8.2 MB
098. Confessions of a Serial Killer - Eleese Lester (violent).avi    28.8 MB
099. Murder Set Pieces - (2 violent rapes).avi    20 MB
100. Red Heat - Linda Blair.avi    27.6 MB
101. Ms. 45 - Zoë Lund (2 rapes).avi    60.5 MB
102. Jungle Warriors - Sybil Danning, Marjoe Gortner, etc. (gang rape).wmv    42.8 MB
103. Salige er de som tørster - Gjertrud Jynge.avi    11.1 MB
104. May Morning - Jane Birkin.avi    23.9 MB
105. Swift Justice - Cindy Rome.avi    32.8 MB
106. The Student Teachers - Susan Damante.avi    13.6 MB
107. What School Girls Wont Tell - Ulrike Butz.avi    17.3 MB
108. Dead Man Walking - Missy Yager.avi    25.3 MB
109. The Liars Club - Shevonne Durkin.wmv    18.1 MB
110. Lady of the Night - Cecilia Cerocchi (2 rapes).avi    35.2 MB
111. Jezebel's Kiss - Katherine Barrese.avi    20.2 MB
112. Hot Blood - Lorena Bayonas.avi    28.8 MB
113. Blackrock - Bojana Novakovic.avi    19 MB
114. Savage Inmates - Elisa Servier.avi    8.5 MB
115. Silent Witness - Melissa Leo.avi    16.5 MB
116. Gina - Céline Lomez.avi    31.5 MB
117. Last Summer - Catherine Burns & Barbara Hershey (famous 1969 uncut).avi    34.8 MB
118. Abduction (Patty Hearst story) - Judith-Marie Bergan.avi    48.5 MB
119. Naked Violence - I ragazzi del massacro (students-teacher).avi    50.7 MB
120. Johnny Firecloud - Sacheen Littlefeather.avi    19.1 MB
121. Avenged Getting Even Tomcats Deadbeat - Mia Marchand (2 rapes).avi    50.9 MB
122. Girl From Trieste - Ornella Muti (lesbian rape).avi    13.4 MB
123. The Big Racket - Stefania Girolami Goodwin.avi    12.1 MB
124. La iena (aka Fatal Seduction) - Lisa Comshaw.avi    25.8 MB
125. Naked Vengeance - Deborah Tranelli (gang rape).avi    25.3 MB
126. Deep in the Heart (aka Handgun) - Karen Young.avi    47.7 MB
127. Jessi's Girls - Sondra Currie.avi    19.2 MB
128. Assault! - Lesley-Anne Down.avi    29.1 MB
129. Wolf Lake - Robin Mattson.avi    16.1 MB
130. Coto de Caza (aka Code of Hunt) - Assumpta Serna.wmv    37.1 MB
131. Cartel - Suzee Slater.wmv    39.3 MB
132. Albino - Sybil Danning.avi    18.2 MB
133. The Beast With a Gun (aka La belva col mitra) - Marisa Mell.wmv    35.2 MB
134. Kids - Chloe Sevigny.avi    19.4 MB
135. Voroshilovskiy strelok - Anna Sinyakina.wmv    18.1 MB
bonus collage scenes.avi    150.5 MB

3.54 GB in 136 files. Torrent created 102.7 weeks ago.
https://isohunt.com/torrent_details/135578773/

I'm sure that's just a sampling. 94 Seeders 360 Leechers at the moment. I'm sure a lot of porn is worse. That industry has grown exponentially in the past decade.

Anyone see TV shows like True Blood, Rome and/or Spartacus golly gee, what a sick combination of sex and gore.



You can't even do research on the harmful effects of pornographic imagery is it does harm to the test subjects.

Quote:Growth in pornography has corrosive effect on society
Pornography has devastating effects on both those who create it and those who consume it.
September 26, 2011
by MARK PATTISON

A recently launched campaign, War on Illegal Pornography, is maintaining that divorce, violence against women, increased sex trafficking and porn addiction are just some of the unhealthy results of pornography.

In fact, the evidence of the harmful effects of pornography is so strong that it is now difficult to get permission to do research on the subject because it is clear that those who take part in the research will be harmed by watching pornography.

One need not be exposed to porn to be degraded by it. Families where only one person watches pornography can be adversely affected, said Mary Anne Layden, a psychotherapist and researcher at the medical school at the University of Pennsylvania.

Bishop Raymond Lahey, the former bishop of Antigonish, N.S., is currently awaiting sentencing after pleading guilty in May to a charge of possession of child pornography for importation.

But the impact of pornography is not isolated to a few individuals.

Patrick Trueman, president of Morality in Media, said he sees the rate of porn addiction rising, not only among men but children as well, because their curiosity is not met with blocking software.

“Marriages are breaking up because of one spouse or the other being addicted to pornography. You’ve got violence against women increasing,” he said.

“Men are watching porn movies that are very violent and they want their wife or partner to repeat what they see in the films. There’s an increase in sexual trafficking, because as men see pornography they’re hiring prostitutes.

“Of course, many prostitutes are sexually trafficked. There are websites that feature women who will do what the consumer wants. You put in a credit card (number) and the consumer gets that film and the porn industry can sell that film as well.”

Trueman said pornography has contributed to a coarsening of society.

“Men who are involved with porn, as consumers, discard their spiritual life. They have no spiritual life. They have no family life,” Trueman said.

“Their wife doesn’t look good to them, after watching Internet pornography where the models are always young and in perfect shape with their airbrushed bodies.

“So marriages break down and fall apart.”

Layden told CNS that the harmful effects of pornography are widespread. “It depends on what negative influence you want to look at,” she said.

Among them are sex addiction, pornography addiction, connections to criminal behaviour, rape, incest, sex trafficking, domestic violence, relationship damage, marital infidelity, callous attitudes, and the impact on children either through exposure to porn or sexualized media and the ill effects of their early sexual activity.

“We’re talking about consumers at this point,” Layden said.

SEXUAL EXPLOITATION

“We haven’t even talked about the (sexual) partners, the performers, the individuals who are performing in pornographic activities, whether it’s video, strip clubs, the sexual exploitation industry, where sexual exploitation is what we’re selling.

“And I haven’t even named all the damage. I’m just touching the surface here.”

Layden pointed out an ironic conundrum: “The increasing amount of research that indicates that pornographic imagery is damaging makes it harder to do any research on it.

“For those of us who are in academic institutions, our research has to be cleared by an institutional review board,” she said. “You’re mandated not to hurt your subjects. . . . What institutional review board is going to give you permission to do your study?”

1984 STUDY

She pointed to a 1984 study by Dolf Zillmann and Jennings Bryant in which three groups of subjects watched four hours and 48 minutes of video.

One group saw no pornography, one group spent half of the time watching porn, and the third group watched all porn. Afterward, members of each group were asked a series of questions on issues of the day.

“They were asked questions like: How much time should a rapist spend in jail? What do you think of the women’s liberation movement? How many people do you think are having sex with animals? Group sex? Violent sex?

“People who had seen the pornography reduced their support of the women’s movement by 50 per cent,” Layden said.

In response to another question, she added, “Rapists would spend about 50 per cent less time in jail; that was true of the (porn-watching) females as well.”
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10-19-2011, 11:26 PM,
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Heart  RE: Sexuality as Perversion and/or Love :: Influences and Symptoms of Promiscuity
Through thick and thin, through good times and bad, through sickness and in health, forever and ever, until death do us part..

Those words meant something to these people.

Couple Married 72 Years Dies Holding Hands

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"They just loved being together. Everybody argues once in awhile, but they still, he said 'I have to stick around. I can't go until she does because I have to stay here for her and she would say the same thing,'"

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Full Story: http://www.kcci.com/news/29528191/detail.html

The family unit has suffered heavy damage for of all sorts of reasons, as mentioned in this thread. Stories like this can serve as a glimpse into what is required to counter that destructive trend.

Small business, moral fortitude, tempered wisdom, strong families and by extension strong communities are where we're being hit. Recognize that and do your best to exemplify those traits and pass it on to your/the children - that's the best anyone can do.

Everything else is a symptomatic result of the targeted destruction of these human pillars that collate into integrity and common strength to act with vigilance and respond in turn to what threatens its fabric be it banks, bolsheviks or other bullshit.
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10-20-2011, 02:36 PM,
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RE: Sexuality as Perversion and/or Love :: Influences and Symptoms of Promiscuity
(10-19-2011, 11:26 PM)FastTadpole Wrote: The family unit has suffered heavy damage for of all sorts of reasons, as mentioned in this thread. Stories like this can serve as a glimpse into what is required to counter that destructive trend.

Small business, moral fortitude, tempered wisdom, strong families and by extension strong communities are where we're being hit. Recognize that and do your best to exemplify those traits and pass it on to your/the children - that's the best anyone can do.

Everything else is a symptomatic result of the targeted destruction of these human pillars that collate into integrity and common strength to act with vigilance and respond in turn to what threatens its fabric be it banks, bolsheviks or other bullshit.

True Dat! and i fear there r too few of us old schoolers yet, we may raise our kids right but who will they hook up with? will the pressures of the constant bombardment be too much and they conform...

This was a fuck'd up thread to read over morning coffee...

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10-20-2011, 06:40 PM,
#38
RE: Sexuality as Perversion and/or Love :: Influences and Symptoms of Promiscuity
True Dat! and i fear there r too few of us old schoolers yet, we may raise our kids right but who will they hook up with?

   

A all too common story now-a-days, or has it always been like this?

When I was a pubescent lad (14ish) I met a really nice girl - she didn't put out, I was propositioned by another lass who was game for play; so well.. y'know.

I suppose it's easy to manipulate a boy- problem is we're being presented a strange combination of childhood and manhood simultaneously in this media circus of reputation based on not virtues but attention (positive and negative) that meets a certain awesomeness score.

Childhood is both extended and shortened.

We have an incubation period with longer school tenures compounded by post secondary while at the same time they have a huge amount of power over spending decisions and have a lot of disposable income of their own in many cases. ..for starters.



Finally here's an AMV from one of the top rated shows in Japan aimed at children and adult children alike.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyaqreEU5_8

Fighting Spirit (2000) is supposed to be about a young man's journey into manhood through joining a boxing gym. It is currently ranked the 27th best show of all time in Japan and has produced over 100 episodes with 4 spinoff series fuelling its Japanese cult following status.
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10-23-2011, 07:20 PM, (This post was last modified: 10-23-2011, 07:25 PM by sekular.)
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RE: Sexuality as Perversion and/or Love :: Influences and Symptoms of Promiscuity
I have been saying for years that homosexuality is a perversion. By definition any sexual act that is outside of normal procreation is a perversion. That includes masturbation and oral sex and other strange but heterosexual acts.

I think the social acceptability of homosexuality is a negative for society as a whole and will encourage same sex rape.

One of the main factors for the increase in rape is the advances in sedative and hypnotic medicines. You can now get hypnotics that can be intravenously administered and are so powerful that you can be speaking to someone (like a doctor) and during a conversation you could be knocked out and raped and woken up and not even realize. They merely have to prick you arm with a pin soaked in certain types of benzodiazepine and other hypnotics. I know this as i speak from personal experience. I have seen people being drugged in this way and i have been drugged in this way myself on many occasions in the past.

With the increases in the social acceptability of homosexuality rapes will increase because of this by a matter of statistics. The more homosexuals the more male on male rape etc. The more social acceptable homosexuality becomes the more homosexuals there will be. When my dad was in his 20s when he went out to a bar he would know that he could have a drink with a stranger (guy) and become his friend and even go back to his place without any sort of sexual motives. These days it is almost expected that if you are a lone at a bar and start speaking to another guy that you want to engage in homosexual act with him.

I used to go to psytrance festivals and i have always been shy with girls even though i was very confident and had a loud personality, when it came to girls and intimacy i was always very immature. This is largely irrelevant but only to give some context. As I was shy with girls i was literally targeted by homosexuals and had to fight them off. This was one of the reasons why i stopped going to psytrance parties. I doubt this sort of thing happened before the social acceptability of homosexuality.

While the msm and the police think that most drug rapes are caused by the common "date rape drugs". Rohypnol, Gamma Hydroxy Butyrate (GHB) and Ketamine Hydrochloride. Are not actually common at all in facilitating drug rape.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnotic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzodiazepine
http://www.news-medical.net/health/List-of-Sedatives.aspx

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10-26-2011, 03:02 AM, (This post was last modified: 10-26-2011, 03:11 AM by R.R.)
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RE: Sexuality as Perversion and/or Love :: Influences and Symptoms of Promiscuity
Quote:David Quinn: Why is Norris now credible when his view on pederasty is unchanged?

Friday September 30 2011

When David Norris withdrew from the presidential race in early August, 'The Irish Times' announced that he had "no other credible option" but to do so.

My question is this; what material fact has changed since then that suddenly makes him a credible candidate again? The answer is nothing has changed.

So why is he now a candidate in the election and why didn't 'The Irish Times', among others, loudly oppose his re-entry into the campaign given their earlier position?

When Senator Norris withdrew from the race in August it was because several of his campaign staff had resigned in protest over his letters pleading on behalf of his former partner Ezra Nawi, who was guilty of statutory rape.

In fact, 'The Sunday Times' reported a few days later that the letters David Norris released to the media were not the ones that really made his staff resign. 'The Sunday Times' said there were other letters, including one that further expanded on his views regarding underage sex, that really made them quit.

But if some of his own campaign staff believed he was not a suitable person to be president, why is it that one voter in five seems to think otherwise?

I think there are two reasons for this. The first is that some of those supporters still don't know about his views on such issues as the age of consent and pederasty -- and that's leaving aside those letters -- while another set see him as a liberal talisman who can do no wrong.

It is a sure bet that only a tiny fraction of his supporters have ever actually read the 'Magill' interview of nine years ago in which he recommended to the nation pederasty as practised in Ancient Greece, or 'The Daily Mail' interview of only one year ago in which he make similar comments.

How many know that on at least three separate occasions he has expressed his opposition to an age of consent, namely in the 'Magill' interview, 'The Daily Mail' interview and in the Seanad in 2001?

In the Seanad, when commenting on the 2000 Sex Offenders Bill, he said: "I am against the idea of arbitrary age considerations and in favour of a principle of consent."


Last year journalist Jason O'Toole for 'The Daily Mail' asked him if he believed in an age of consent and he replied: "No, I wouldn't believe in that. I believe in a principle of consent." What in the world does he even mean by "a principle of consent"?

He is now saying it should be up to the courts to decide when someone has had inappropriate sexual relations with someone else. Or at least I think that's what he's saying.

But if that is what he meant -- and it's still a dreadful idea -- then how does he explain the fact that he has recommended to us pederasty as practised in Ancient Greece?

On this score he told 'Magill': "But in terms of classic paedophilia, as practised by the Greeks for example, where it is an older man introducing a younger man or boy to adult life, I think that there can be something to be said for it."


He repeated similar views to Jason O'Toole last year.

He has said since then that he was trying to have an "academic" discussion on the issue. But if we had had such a discussion we'd have discovered that pederasty in Ancient Greece was inherently exploitative. It could hardly be anything else, which is precisely why we need an age of consent.


Remember also how shocked most of us were in 2008 when we watched the documentary 'Fairytale of Kathmandu' and saw poet Cathal O Searcaigh, a middle-aged man, using his relative power and wealth to have sex with much younger, poorer men and we saw how deeply exploitative that was?

But how many of us can recall that David Norris defended Cathal O Searcaigh on that occasion and compared him to Oscar Wilde?

What is deeply ironic is that many of Norris's strongest supporters are also the harshest critics of the church and the number one weapon they use to attack the church is the child abuse issue.

David Norris is obviously not to be remotely compared with a cleric who abused a minor or with a bishop who did not report that abuse to the gardai.

But if his supporters are so concerned about child protection how can they so easily brush aside their candidate's opinions on pederasty, the age of consent or those Nawi letters?

We know how merciless they would have been had a Bishop Norris written similar letters.

The fact is that David Norris's most ardent supporters need to take a much harder look at his views on pederasty, the age of consent, the Ezra Nawi letters and Cathal O Searcaigh's exploits in Nepal before they give him that number one vote.

Irish Independent

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/david-quinn-why-is-norris-now-credible-when-his-view-on-pederasty-is-unchanged-2892357.html




Quote:The little boy who started a sex change aged eight because he (and his lesbian parents) knew he always wanted to be a girl

By Daily Mail Reporter

Last updated at 12:04 PM on 30th September 2011

The lesbian parents of an 11-year-old boy who is undergoing the process of becoming a girl last night defended the decision, claiming it was better for a child to have a sex change when young.

Thomas Lobel, who now calls himself Tammy, is undergoing controversial hormone blocking treatment in Berkeley, California to stop him going through puberty as a boy.

But Pauline Moreno and Debra Lobel warn that children with gender identity disorder forced to postpone transitioning could face a higher risk of suicide.

The mothers say that one of the first things Thomas told them when he learned sign language aged three - because of a speech impediment - was, 'I am a girl'.

At age seven, after threatening genital mutilation on himself, psychiatrists diagnosed Thomas with gender identity disorder. By the age of eight, he began transitioning.

This summer, he started taking hormone-blocking drugs, which will stop him from experiencing puberty.

The hormone-suppressant, implanted in his upper left arm, will postpone the 11-year-old developing broad shoulders, deep voice and facial hair.

The couple faced intense criticism from friends and family as a result, Ms Moreno told MailOnline.

'Everybody was angry with us. "How could you be doing this? You might be ruining his whole life!"

Citing a statistic from the Youth Suicide Prevention Program, Ms Moreno noted over 50 per cent of transgender youth will have had at least one suicide attempt by their 20th birthday.

And ignoring their son's incessant pleas, she said, simply was not worth the risk.

'What is so frightening to me is that you would be willing to say "no" just because you don't like it - even though your child could lose their life?'

Her son's adolescent transition, she hopes, will help him have a less conflicted adulthood.

'The whole idea now is let's stop creating a third (gender) that is neither one thing or the other, so we transitioned her,' said Ms Moreno.

'The protocol now is to transition these children as soon as you can make a diagnosis, because otherwise they end up being not one thing or the other... because they experienced puberty.'

Ms Moreno recalled the first step of Thomas' transition to becoming female by letting him pick his own clothes.

He favoured headbands to baseball hats and picked out bras and dresses to start wearing when given choice in clothing to wear. And the change in his personality, Ms Moreno says, was instant.

'He was in his own world just completely detached and that was a problem we always had was getting Thomas to participate in life,' she said. 'What we saw emerge when Tammy was allowed to be Tammy is, "Whoa!"... It was an immediate transformation. She was so giggly and she was now interacting she was now making it a point to defend herself.'

The diagnosis has been hard to accept for Tammy's parents.

The couple were married in 1990 by a rabbi and have two older sons and grandchildren. But they insist their sexuality has nothing to do with it.

'It was odd to us,' she said. 'Even though she has lesbians as parents, this is all new to us in every possible way. We know what it's like to feel different - we've got that one. But to feel like you're not in the right body was just something we could not put our heads around.'

Fortunately, the family has a vast support system. The couple credits Tammy's teachers and officials at Children's Learning Center in Alameda, California, and their religious community, for being open-minded about their son's decision.

'We live in the Bay area where lots of alternative lifestyles are in place... and we belong to a religious community that was incredibly supportive. They make it a point when we're in synagogue to come over and tell Tammy, "Oh, you look so pretty today,' Ms Moreno said, adding, 'There's never going to be enough gratitude for them.'

His parents say the hormone treatment will give him time to figure out if he wants to fully transition to being female or go through puberty as a boy.

If he chooses to stop taking the drugs, he will undergo natural male puberty at a later stage and his future fertility would not be impacted.

Should their son decide to transition to an adult female, he can take female hormones as well, which would raise his voice, allow him to grow breasts and develop other feminine physical characteristics.

San Francisco, right by Berkeley, is one of four cities in the United States with a hospital that has a program for transgender children.

The University of California San Francisco is home to the Center of Excellence for Transgender Health.

Children are seen at length by mental health professionals and then treated by pediatric endocrinologists.

Others cities with youth programs are Boston, Seattle and Los Angeles.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2043345/The-California-boy-11-undergoing-hormone-blocking-treatment.html#ixzz1ZO3CkmSX
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10-26-2011, 10:04 PM,
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RE: Sexuality as Perversion and/or Love :: Influences and Symptoms of Promiscuity
Decent discussion broadcast audio recently upped to the tracker.

Libido Dominandi: Lust, Power, and Control
Brainwashing - Zionist Mind Control Through Pornography
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11-07-2011, 10:37 PM,
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RE: Sexuality as Perversion and/or Love :: Influences and Symptoms of Promiscuity
Quote:Channel 4 to screen transgender documentary series in autumn lineup
Jason Deans
guardian.co.uk, Thursday 15 September 2011

Channel 4 is to broadcast a documentary series about the lives of a group of transgender people featuring graphic footage of sex-change surgery.

The observational documentary, which has a working title Girls will Be Boys and Boys will be Girls, will follow seven people in their everyday lives and also as they gather at a rural retreat to talk through the problems they face.

Among the stars of the four-part series are a 52-year-old former police officer called Karen who is about to undergo surgery, and Max, from north London, who wants to become the first transgender rabbi.

They are followed by the cameras as they meet other people who have had surgery, and go out together to pubs and shops and deal with people's reactions.

Executive producer Sam Whittaker said: "We've asked people to go down to the local pub and meet with Middle England and say, 'Hi, how are you?'."

Speaking about the show at Channel 4's autumn season launch on Thursday, Channel 4 News presenter Cathy Newman said: "Some of it's quite graphic, there is footage of a man in genital surgery."

Max said he hoped the documentary would show people there was more to the issue than surgery.

"Something that came through from all the people in the house is that surgery is something that you might choose, you might not choose, but that emotional journey is a lot more important about how you feel and how you relate to your body," he added.

FULL ARTICLE:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/sep/15/channel-4-autumn-lineup
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11-28-2011, 10:31 PM,
#43
Rainbow  Love and Sexuality
Love and Sexuality

Preamble

Because it offers a comprehension of love and sexuality according to an Initial Philosophy: for discovering the divine gift of what Plato talked about in the Symposium: “Here is, so I declare it, the energy of love (eros) is, the most ancient and worthiest, among gods. It has the greatest titles for driving the man on the virtue and happiness way, both in life and in kingdom of afterlife”. So, we set out some reflections drawn by the disciplines of the Initial Philosophy (kabbala, alchemy, symbolism, tarots, astrology, yoga tantra) with the hope to furnish, to our visitors, internal stimulus to analyze and to face up better the demonstration of love and sexuality in the daily life.

What does initial philosophy bring about original, compared with the generic philosophical religious approach, and compared with that psychoanalytical and psychological?

Concretely, how can love (platonic winged eros) conduct us on this way, predicted by many evolved creatures? How to direct this extraordinary energy towards the predestinate aim and not stopped at halfway? So, what is the predestinate half? Does this aim involve sadness, inexpressible privations and the cessation of the pleasure? Or, is it an approaching to a new pleasure, more intense and thinner, to new joys? Moreover, this sense would have a spiritual run if this had to conduct to sadness and privation?

Probably, it only need substitute a rough, temporary and carrier, in the time of poisons and bitterness, pleasure with another kind of pleasure which develops light, knowledge, joy and generosity. The fear to abdicate the most immediate pleasure, stops sometimes the enter and the experimentation of ancient truths.

Is this love, that man knows in the affective sphere, different from love that move the sun and the other stars" of which Dante, the Supreme Poet ("L'amor che move il sole e l'altre stelle" in Paradise XXXIII, 145) talked about?

That this energy can help us to fly and ,so, to feed our spiritual centers (chakra), symbolically, it is well-known since the antiquity. In fact, The winged dragon, fantastic animal knew to all the mythologies and at present also in the Christian iconography, is the symbol of the existing instinctive strengths in the man and of their possible transformation. Subduing and steering these strength to use them as mean of propulsion towards the most elevated peaks of the spirit, represents the deep sense of the spiritual run that everyone is, or it will be, called to complete it.

The predestination of the man is to develop, here on the earth, his divine quality and the sexual energy. The energy of love is the resource, inseparable from the practice of the virtues, predestinate to feed the development of the spiritual organs of the man (chakra).

It is necessary to add that it doesn't mean to dominate the sexual energy for not committing a sin, but it means to sublime it... it doesn't need to repress it, but to sensitize it, and to direct it upward; this is its predestination and it brings suffering or mere renouncement in the man. But to enrich him, to give him more elevated and more intense joys, that’s why, if energy goes upward, it feeds the spiritual, extraordinary centers (chakras) that everyone has got effectively, if also to the latent state, made exception for the evolved creatures, the geniuses and above all the Saints whose spiritual gifts are apparent and visible to everybody.

Certainly it is not an easy job, whose result can be programmed to temporal level. It doesn't deal with applying mental techniques in theory, tout court, but to develop, day by day, with humility, simplicity and tolerance also towards themselves, a state of conscience, a whole of so many small daily behaviors more and more elevated, so a day it can be tasted, also on the earth, that fullness, that joy to which our soul strongly and naturally long for.

"The sexual strength or the winged dragon", not by chance it is just the title of Omraam Mikhaël Aïvanhov’s famous work with which the author has deepened the comprehension of love and sexuality. He has furnished concrete indications to live in an harmonious way this divine energy ,that feeds our existence. "All the human beings, whoever they are, without knowing they look for God. Do they believe to look for only the happiness? and who doesn't look for it? God is anywhere in the universe and he is hidden in all of this that arouses our desire. The ambitious ones, the drunkards, the gluttons, the avid ones, the dissolute persons, by their way, everybody look for God, because effectively it is also possible to find one lower case letter of Yours particle in the alcohol, in the food, in the sexuality, in the money, in the glory, in the power... God can be found anywhere, also in the swamps, also in the stones where Your presence is as a hidden spark. Certainly from these things you can be drawn only a momentary satisfaction, because God not him he can really find in the coarsest layers, in the inferior forms of the subject, but only in the spirit." (Daily thoughts)

This spiritual job, this activity, willy-nilly, constitutes a forced way of our run in this long cycle of the reincarnations. And' an activity that doesn't ask for isolation, monastic life or bachelorhood. It is compatible with the life of couple and with the life from single.

Certainly in this field there is a risk to stir from an excess to the other and whoever scrutinizes with sincerity his own behaviors he can recognize it.
The initiatic philosophy finds a different point of balance from the traditional yoga tantra.

Mirabail M. talks about that in his volume "Dictionnaire de l'ésotérisme - Collection Marabout université": "O.M. Aivanhov talks, instead, about another way: a sort of loving homeopathy" susceptible to wake up again in the creatures, also in the life of couple, the spiritual gifts that are present in each of us.

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http://digilander.libero.it/vangeli/sublimation.htm#pre
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01-06-2012, 04:21 AM,
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RE: Sexuality as Perversion and/or Love :: Influences and Symptoms of Promiscuity
There is nothing wrong with homosexuality or heterosexuality, there is nothing wrong with promiscuity, as long as it is consensual there is nothing wrong with sex. Leave people alone and let them be with who they want to be with.
There is no gay or straigh, homosexual,heterosexual, bisexual etc they are all labels created by the ruiling ELite to divide and conqure us. We are all one, no one is different from eachother. We are all on consciousness. And when we forget that and fight eachother we become divided and it is much eaiser for the ELite to control us.
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02-29-2012, 08:41 PM,
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RE: Sexuality as Perversion and/or Love :: Influences and Symptoms of Promiscuity
CelticRebel Wrote:... there are enough perverted degenerates working at Disney who can operate openly considering that there are still very few of us who can guess at their jokes and double-entendre's.

Hence, why they are free to create promotional videos of toddlers playing with "magical" purple rods that spew out cool white stuff from the tip [see it for yourself below]. But, I'd not recommend sharing such insight with your well-programmed friends, their NLP-subroutine will trigger them accusing you of perversion.



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