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Oliver Stone's 'Secret History' to put Hitler 'in context'
01-10-2010, 04:51 PM,
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Oliver Stone's 'Secret History' to put Hitler 'in context'
JANUARY 09, 2010
TCA -- Director Oliver Stone's upcoming Showtime documentary miniseries "Secret History of America" promises to put mass murderers such as Stalin and Hitler "in context."

"Stalin, Hitler, Mao, McCarthy -- these people have been vilified pretty thoroughly by history," Stone told reporters at the Television Critics Association's semi-annual press tour in Pasadena.

"Stalin has a complete other story," Stone said. "Not to paint him as a hero, but to tell a more factual representation. He fought the German war machine more than any single person. We can't judge people as only 'bad' or 'good.' Hitler is an easy scapegoat throughout history and its been used cheaply. He's the product of a series of actions. It's cause and effect ... People in America don't know the connection between WWI and WWII ... I've been able to walk in Stalin's shoes and Hitler's shoes to understand their point of view. We're going to educate our minds and liberalize them and broaden them. We want to move beyond opinions ... Go into the funding of the Nazi party. How many American corporations were involved, from GM through IBM. Hitler is just a man who could have easily been assassinated."

The controversial director's 10-part documentary series for Showtime promises to focus on events that "at the time went under-reported, but crucially shaped America's unique and complex history of the last 60 years." Subjects in "History" include President Harry Truman’s decision to drop the atomic bomb on Japan and the origins of the Cold War with the Soviet Union.

"You cannot approach history unless you have empathy for the person you may hate," Stone said during the show's trailer, which promised to put historical villains "in context." "I don't want to put out conventional History Channel product where it's easy to like it."

"He's not saying we're going to come out with a more positive view of Hitler," emphasized professor Peter Kuznick, the lead writer on the project. "But we're going to describe him as a historical phenomenon and not just somebody who appeared out of nowhere."

Stone said that conservative pundits will dislike the show.

"Obviously, Rush Limbaugh is not going to like this history and, as usual, we're going to get those kind of ignorant attacks," said Stone, who also also compared the experience of sympathizing with war criminals to making his "W" movie about George W. Bush. "I'm trying to understand somebody I thoroughly despised."

Stone also warned that the same military industrial complex forces that he's explored in movies such as "JFK" and in "Secret History," are now corrupting Barack Obama.

"You can understand why Obama is following in Bush's footsteps in Afghanistan," Stone said."Obama is very much trapped, we believe, in that system. And so that's what we're going to try and show you -- the way it works."

The project will also show lesser-known positive aspects of American history and unsung heroes. Stone eventually hopes to send "Secret History" to schools as a teaching curriculum.

"It would be a very different counterweight to what they're learning," Stone said. "Nobody is going to force it down anybody's throat."

A critic also asked Stone "the Sarah Palin question" of what he likes to read.

"My father was a voracious New York Times reader," he said. "We consider that in The Middle. Sarah Palin would disagree."

http://www.thrfeed.com/2010/01/oliver-stone-history-america.html
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01-10-2010, 09:36 PM,
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RE: Oliver Stone's 'Secret History' to put Hitler 'in context'
Quote:"Stalin has a complete other story," Stone said. "Not to paint him as a hero, but to tell a more factual representation. He fought the German war machine more than any single person.

I think it could and would be argued by some that Hitler and the "German war machine" were valliantly fighting the Judeo-Bolshevic murder machine. Stalin killed far more people than Hitler ever did.
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01-11-2010, 02:14 AM,
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RE: Oliver Stone's 'Secret History' to put Hitler 'in context'
(01-10-2010, 09:36 PM)Ctrl Wrote:
Quote:"Stalin has a complete other story," Stone said. "Not to paint him as a hero, but to tell a more factual representation. He fought the German war machine more than any single person.

I think it could and would be argued by some that Hitler and the "German war machine" were valliantly fighting the Judeo-Bolshevic murder machine. Stalin killed far more people than Hitler ever did.


I think both the Russian Judeo Bolshevic murder machine and Hitlers war machine were both funded by you know who. So whats the fucking point? Either way this got the you know who people their place in Palestine. Both were pawns in the real game.
In the 60's, people took acid to make the world weird. Now the world is weird and people take Prozac to make it normal.

As a reputed atheist, the reverential nature of his film was surprising, but Pasolini himself said &If you know that I am an unbeliever, then you know me better than I do myself. I may be an unbeliever, but I am an unbeliever who has a nostalgia for a belief.&


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01-11-2010, 02:56 AM, (This post was last modified: 01-11-2010, 03:02 AM by h3rm35.)
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RE: Oliver Stone's 'Secret History' to put Hitler 'in context'
can't wait too see this...
anyone know when it's due to air? other than an ambiguous 2010?
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01-11-2010, 06:38 AM, (This post was last modified: 01-11-2010, 06:42 AM by Ctrl.)
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RE: Oliver Stone's 'Secret History' to put Hitler 'in context'
(01-11-2010, 02:14 AM)Weyland Wrote:
(01-10-2010, 09:36 PM)Ctrl Wrote:
Quote:"Stalin has a complete other story," Stone said. "Not to paint him as a hero, but to tell a more factual representation. He fought the German war machine more than any single person.

I think it could and would be argued by some that Hitler and the "German war machine" were valliantly fighting the Judeo-Bolshevic murder machine. Stalin killed far more people than Hitler ever did.


I think both the Russian Judeo Bolshevic murder machine and Hitlers war machine were both funded by you know who. So whats the fucking point? Either way this got the you know who people their place in Palestine. Both were pawns in the real game.

Okay, mutual funding sources by the same tribe, I agree. That's just business... playing the losers off of the winners and profiting from both. However when you look at things a little closer, that same tribe is financing Trotsky in North America while at the same time pulling off the Dolchstoßlegende against Germany. They'll finance both sides being the avaricious bastards that they are, but only one side is meant to prevail in war, in this case, their side, of the Jedeo-Bolsheviks.

The Soviets weren't pawns... the Soviets were the predestined victors... due to tribal alliances.
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01-11-2010, 06:50 AM,
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RE: Oliver Stone's 'Secret History' to put Hitler 'in context'
(01-11-2010, 06:38 AM)Ctrl Wrote:
(01-11-2010, 02:14 AM)Weyland Wrote:
(01-10-2010, 09:36 PM)Ctrl Wrote:
Quote:"Stalin has a complete other story," Stone said. "Not to paint him as a hero, but to tell a more factual representation. He fought the German war machine more than any single person.

I think it could and would be argued by some that Hitler and the "German war machine" were valliantly fighting the Judeo-Bolshevic murder machine. Stalin killed far more people than Hitler ever did.


I think both the Russian Judeo Bolshevic murder machine and Hitlers war machine were both funded by you know who. So whats the fucking point? Either way this got the you know who people their place in Palestine. Both were pawns in the real game.

Okay, mutual funding sources by the same tribe, I agree. That's just business... playing the losers off of the winners and profiting from both. However when you look at things a little closer, that same tribe is financing Trotsky in North America while at the same time pulling off the Dolchstoßlegende against Germany. They'll finance both sides being the avaricious bastards that they are, but only one side is meant to prevail in war, in this case, their side, of the Jedeo-Bolsheviks.

The Soviets weren't pawns... the Soviets were the predestined victors... due to tribal alliances.

FUCK!!! What a great reply Yeah you are right they were the predestined victors due to the tribal alliances and since they already had the Jewnited States of America and needed Palestine not only did they keep the balance but also got what they wanted. FUCKIN INGENIUS!!
In the 60's, people took acid to make the world weird. Now the world is weird and people take Prozac to make it normal.

As a reputed atheist, the reverential nature of his film was surprising, but Pasolini himself said &If you know that I am an unbeliever, then you know me better than I do myself. I may be an unbeliever, but I am an unbeliever who has a nostalgia for a belief.&


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01-12-2010, 03:13 AM,
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RE: Oliver Stone's 'Secret History' to put Hitler 'in context'
So, is that sarcasm or did things suddenly go "click" in your mind? Honestly... I don't know what to make of your answer, I really don't.
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01-12-2010, 06:30 AM,
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RE: Oliver Stone's 'Secret History' to put Hitler 'in context'
(01-12-2010, 03:13 AM)Ctrl Wrote: So, is that sarcasm or did things suddenly go "click" in your mind? Honestly... I don't know what to make of your answer, I really don't.

No things went click I honestly never thought of it that way before. I knew the Zionist Bankers were fucking geniuses but this really BLEW MY MIND!

By the way I saw a great series that just came out Called Berlin, it was really cool.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00p5yv4
In the 60's, people took acid to make the world weird. Now the world is weird and people take Prozac to make it normal.

As a reputed atheist, the reverential nature of his film was surprising, but Pasolini himself said &If you know that I am an unbeliever, then you know me better than I do myself. I may be an unbeliever, but I am an unbeliever who has a nostalgia for a belief.&


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