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need help/advice for 'climate vigil' tomorrow
12-11-2009, 06:15 AM,
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need help/advice for 'climate vigil' tomorrow
any suggestions/tips to help expose global warming etc tomorrow i will attend this event
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12-11-2009, 09:16 AM,
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RE: need help/advice for 'climate vigil' tomorrow
You could hand out DVDs of Christopher Monckton's lectures, Global Warming or Global Governance and the Great Global Warming Swindle. There is also a lot of audio on the tracker and you could make pamphlets. A megaphone always comes in handy too.
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12-12-2009, 07:38 AM,
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RE: need help/advice for 'climate vigil' tomorrow
It was a small meeting. I had to confront members of the church of al gore. They got in my face. I met new people and made friends. There were only two immature beings there who could not confront anyone with a difference of opinion.
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12-12-2009, 02:49 PM,
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RE: need help/advice for 'climate vigil' tomorrow
Good on ya CVwTnZdt7S way to put yourself out there, these are the people that need convincing the most. They're active and they want change (minus the shills) - even if they are pulling in the wrong direction atm.

Good to combat the propaganda coming out of the MSM. BBC recently ramped up their efforts to promote the agenda with these latest docs:

BBC Horizon - How Many People Can Live on Planet Earth? (2009)
In a Horizon special, naturalist Sir David Attenborough investigates whether the world is heading for a population crisis. In his lengthy career, Sir David has watched the human population more than double from 2.5 billion in 1950 to nearly seven billion. He reflects on the profound effects of this rapid growth, both on humans and the environment. While much of the projected growth in human population is likely to come from the developing world, it is the lifestyle enjoyed by many in the West that has the most impact on the planet. Some experts claim that in the UK consumers use as much as two and a half times their fair share of Earth's resources.Sir David examines whether it is the duty of individuals to commit not only to smaller families, but to change the way they live for the sake of humanity and planet Earth.

BBC - Hot Planet (2009)
Professors Iain Stewart and Kathy Sykes take a timely look at global warming ahead of the Copenhagen summit, in this film which explores the world's leading climate scientists' vision of the planet's future. They predict that if global temperatures continue to rise at their current rate, Earth will be one degree warmer within ten years, and three degrees or more warmer before the end of the century. The programme also explores various technologies being devised to offer solutions for a sustainable future.
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12-13-2009, 01:36 AM,
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RE: need help/advice for 'climate vigil' tomorrow
(12-12-2009, 07:38 AM)CVwTnZdt7S Wrote: It was a small meeting. I had to confront members of the church of al gore. They got in my face. I met new people and made friends. There were only two immature beings there who could not confront anyone with a difference of opinion.

i looked for your initial post. glad to hear that some ppl lstened.

credible science links and data contrary to the given "consensus" - monkton was a thatcher advisor, i dont trust himeither :/
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12-13-2009, 03:07 AM,
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RE: need help/advice for 'climate vigil' tomorrow
Way to go man
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12-13-2009, 09:02 AM,
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RE: need help/advice for 'climate vigil' tomorrow
(12-13-2009, 03:07 AM)mastermg Wrote: Way to go man

i feel that us typing these kind of bland sentiments to each other - not only is not enough but actually never was enough.

i guess ppl realistically should just not look for support on web forums?

they asked for ideas though so it is totally valid of course

dont you just ever feel like "woot" or so on a public webforum is just mostly fucking bukkshit?
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12-13-2009, 10:49 AM,
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RE: need help/advice for 'climate vigil' tomorrow
Yeah, but since I have no real suggestion to make, I thought I was better off letting him know that his work is appreciated lol. Maybe I should think thoroughly before replying.
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12-13-2009, 01:21 PM,
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RE: need help/advice for 'climate vigil' tomorrow
Quote:"monkton was a thatcher advisor, i don't trust him either :/
He's also a Knight of Malta, but he makes good points. I can't argue with his facts and dedication to the subject of exposing the fraud and presenting the ramifications and science. Personally, I can't find fault with his work as of yet, although because of his associations I always have my filter on. Thatcher actually was a huge proponent for global warming during her standoff with the coal miner labour unions - which was a huge boon to the warmists in awareness. This effectively ended the ice age funding and turned it 180 degrees to the warming trend at that point. Lots of science was paid off and data was cherry picked to support her case. That being said facts should be placed on pedestals not people on either side of the debate like Al Gore or Christopher Monckton - I just mention him in reference to the facts he presents.

Christopher Monckton - 35 Inconvenient Truths [2007.10.18]
http://concen.org/tracker/torrents-details.php?id=11094

Christopher Monckton on Climate Change
http://concen.org/tracker/torrents-details.php?id=10947

Climategate: Caught Green-Handed PDF
http://concen.org/tracker/torrents-details.php?id=11915
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12-13-2009, 11:38 PM,
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RE: need help/advice for 'climate vigil' tomorrow
(12-13-2009, 01:21 PM)FastTadpole Wrote:
Quote:"monkton was a thatcher advisor, i don't trust him either :/
He's also a Knight of Malta, but he makes good points. I can't argue with his facts and dedication to the subject of exposing the fraud and presenting the ramifications and science. Personally, I can't find fault with his work as of yet, although because of his associations I always have my filter on. Thatcher actually was a huge proponent for global warming during her standoff with the coal miner labour unions - which was a huge boon to the warmists in awareness. This effectively ended the ice age funding and turned it 180 degrees to the warming trend at that point. Lots of science was paid off and data was cherry picked to support her case. That being said facts should be placed on pedestals not people on either side of the debate like Al Gore or Christopher Monckton - I just mention him in reference to the facts he presents.

Christopher Monckton - 35 Inconvenient Truths [2007.10.18]
http://concen.org/tracker/torrents-details.php?id=11094

Christopher Monckton on Climate Change
http://concen.org/tracker/torrents-details.php?id=10947

Climategate: Caught Green-Handed PDF
http://concen.org/tracker/torrents-details.php?id=11915

You would also be curious about what Monckton had to say int he 80s about the aids epedemic. Good to find both sides of the story.
http://rawstory.com/2009/12/climate-skeptic-hiv-camps/
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12-14-2009, 03:54 AM,
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RE: need help/advice for 'climate vigil' tomorrow
(12-13-2009, 01:21 PM)FastTadpole Wrote:
Quote:"monkton was a thatcher advisor, i don't trust him either :/
He's also a Knight of Malta, but he makes good points. I can't argue with his facts and dedication to the subject of exposing the fraud and presenting the ramifications and science. Personally, I can't find fault with his work as of yet, although because of his associations I always have my filter on. Thatcher actually was a huge proponent for global warming during her standoff with the coal miner labour unions - which was a huge boon to the warmists in awareness. This effectively ended the ice age funding and turned it 180 degrees to the warming trend at that point. Lots of science was paid off and data was cherry picked to support her case. That being said facts should be placed on pedestals not people on either side of the debate like Al Gore or Christopher Monckton - I just mention him in reference to the facts he presents.

Christopher Monckton - 35 Inconvenient Truths [2007.10.18]
http://concen.org/tracker/torrents-details.php?id=11094

Christopher Monckton on Climate Change
http://concen.org/tracker/torrents-details.php?id=10947

Climategate: Caught Green-Handed PDF
http://concen.org/tracker/torrents-details.php?id=11915

he's smom too?? whoa.
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12-14-2009, 11:59 AM,
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RE: need help/advice for 'climate vigil' tomorrow
Quote:You would also be curious about what Monckton had to say int he 80s about the aids epedemic. Good to find both sides of the story.
http://rawstory.com/2009/12/climate-skeptic-hiv-camps/

RawStory.com although it has some good info on the site has been quite bias towards the warmer argument and this editorial is framed as a hit piece relevant to a completely independent issue attacking the man and not the facts he presented (regardless of the agenda).

Interment camps is quite a spin on the quarantine he is advocating though. He goes too far, but in the past disease has been kept at bay by good water systems, increased hygiene and quarantine when necessary (e.g. the near eradication of smallpox, which should not be attributed to vaccines but to these aforementioned factors). I'd encourage contagious disease to be dealt with home quarantines or at least the closure of schools and large public gatherings such as sporting events if there ever were a real pandemic.

Getting back to AIDS it is more contagious than the MSM is letting on. Alex Jones is actually taking the debate the other way with having someone on his show get injected with the AIDS virus which could very well be the most dangerous thing he has ever done to date. There is a lot more material on AIDS including some Bill Cooper stuff that I haven't gotten around to.

There is a lot more on this but this 1994 interview explains a lot including the fact that condoms don't work against the AIDS virus, 20,000 people die with no risk factors at all per year (1994), No studies have been done on insect (mosquitoes) or airborne transmission:

Jay Diamond - Dr.Lorraine Day - AIDS -1994 interview.mp3
http://concen.org/tracker/torrents-details.php?id=10729
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