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Palo Alto Bans Anti-bacterial Soap
08-24-2006, 06:30 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-24-2006, 06:33 PM by harflimon.)
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Palo Alto Bans Anti-bacterial Soap
City shuns chemical in hand soap
By Jason Green
MediaNews

Palo Alto is washing its hands of anti-bacterial soap in the face of growing evidence that a key germ-killing chemical poses a threat to the environment and human health.

Starting this month, the liquid hand soap swirling in city dispensers will be strictly triclosan-free, said Karin Didriksen North, an associate engineer in the city's public works department.

``There's an alternative out there that's just as effective -- regular soap and water,'' she said.

North, an expert in contaminants, has spent the past four years leading the Santa Clara Basin Watershed Management Initiative's emerging contaminants work group. Her team produced a report this year on the dangers of triclosan, a common chemical in personal care and home products from hand soap to toothpaste.

Triclosan -- a registered anti-bacterial agent -- is toxic to aquatic organisms in high concentrations. And there is growing evidence triclosan may be encouraging the development of antibiotic-resistant bacteria, said Jessie Denver, who helped draft the report. Denver works in San Jose's environmental services department.

Most water treatment plants, including Palo Alto's, can't remove the chemical from wastewater, which explains how it creeps into bodies of water, Denver said.

Palo Alto is among the first Bay Area cities to unilaterally stop purchasing anti-bacterial soap, North said. San Jose, Denver added, is on track to do the same.

``It's not like we're telling people to stop washing their hands,'' North said.


Now all they need to do is ban flouride and aspartame. They might already I actually have no idea. It's a good start either way, time to step up and show the world what these soaps are doing to us. It's not like the old soaps didn't clean your hands. I wonder if they are still using the petro-based soaps or not.

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Link - http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews...al/15276922.htm
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08-24-2006, 07:57 PM,
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Palo Alto Bans Anti-bacterial Soap
It's somewhat difficult to find soap that isn't bacterial. If over use of antibiotics has led to resistant strains of bacteria then encouraging the emergence of resistant and more hardy strains in your kitchen and bathrooms is a really bad idea.
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08-25-2006, 01:44 AM,
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Palo Alto Bans Anti-bacterial Soap
Little more info on Tricolsan:

It is found in soaps, deodorants, toothpastes, mouthwashes and is infused in an increasing number of consumer products, such as kitchen utensils, toys, bedding, socks, and trash bags. It has been shown to be effective in reducing and controlling bacterial contamination on the hands and on treated products.

Reports have suggested that triclosan can combine with chlorine in tap water to form chloroform gas (PMID 15926568), which the U.S. EPA classifies as a probable human carcinogen. As a result, triclosan was the target of a UK cancer alert, even though the study showed that the amount of chloroform generated was less than amounts often present in chlorinated drinking waters.

Triclosan reacts with the free chlorine in tap water to also produce lesser amounts of other compounds, like 2,4-dichlorophenol (PMID 15926568). Most of these intermediates convert into dioxins upon exposure to UV radiation (from the sun or other sources). Although small amounts of dioxins are produced, there is a great deal of concern over this effect because dioxins are extremely toxic and are very potent endocrine disruptors. They are also chemically very stable, so that they are eliminated from the body very slowly (they can bioaccumulate to dangerous levels), and they persist in the environment for a very long time.

Triclosan is chemically somewhat similar to the dioxin class of compounds. Its production leads to small amounts of residual polychlorinated dioxins, and polychlorinated furans which are contained in small amounts, in the products that are using it.
The belief in 'coincidence' is the prevalent superstition of the Age of Science.

&I don't understand why you're taking such a belligerant tone when you're obviously the ignorant one here. &
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08-25-2006, 12:36 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-25-2006, 12:38 PM by freeon.)
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Quote:Reports have suggested that triclosan can combine with chlorine in tap water to form chloroform gas (PMID 15926568), which the U.S. EPA classifies as a probable human carcinogen. As a result, triclosan was the target of a UK cancer alert, even though the study showed that the amount of chloroform generated was less than amounts often present in chlorinated drinking waters.

I have no desire to inhale cancer causing chloroform. I recommend this soap:
http://www.sunandearth.com/ProductsPage.aspx
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