Poll: What BEST describes your faith, religion or world-view?
Secular/Atheist/Irreligious/Agnostic/Nontheist
Islam
Hinduism
Buddhism
other Eastern Religion (Chinese, Taoism, Shinto etc.)
Primal indigenous, Tribal religion
Spritism
Neo-Paganism
New Age
Roman Catholic Christian
Eastern Orthodox Christian
Lutheran Christian
Evangelical Christian
Charismatic Christian
Pentecostal Christian
Reformed/Presbyterian Christian
Baptist Christian
Other Protestant Christian
Fundamentalist Christian
None of the above (please elaborate)
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Poll: What Is Your Faith, Religion Or World-view?
09-12-2006, 09:42 PM,
#1
Poll: What Is Your Faith, Religion Or World-view?
Hi all,

I thought it might be interesting to know where we are all coming from in terms of our belief system. I think the poll is anonymous unless you leave a comment, so feel free to vote anonymously. Or leave a comment, if you want to elaborate what you believe.

Please vote according to what you currently believe, not according to what you were born into.
'Prove and scrutinize all things; hold fast that which is good.'
'And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them.' Paul of Tarsus

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09-12-2006, 10:36 PM,
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Poll: What Is Your Faith, Religion Or World-view?
lets see. i was born into kristianity. studied prophecy for seven years or so. started smoking marijuana. became athiest. nice poll man.
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09-12-2006, 11:15 PM,
#3
Poll: What Is Your Faith, Religion Or World-view?
Howcome there are 9 choices which lump a whole pile of different beliefs together and 10 choices just for variants of Christians? ;)

Also, did you forget Jew or just figure nobody here would admit to it?
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09-12-2006, 11:24 PM,
#4
Poll: What Is Your Faith, Religion Or World-view?
Quote:Howcome there are 9 choices which lump a whole pile of different beliefs together and 10 choices just for variants of Christians? ;)

Also, did you forget Jew or just figure nobody here would admit to it?

now that you mention it, LMAO. half of the options are for kristianity! the heck? and no one wanting to admit to being a jew? lmao. oh wait dont forget to add THE TRIBE OF LEVI before some idiot (*cough*you know who you are*cough*) bashes you for that too. hehe :P
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09-13-2006, 12:36 AM,
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Poll: What Is Your Faith, Religion Or World-view?
Quote:
Quote:Howcome there are 9 choices which lump a whole pile of different beliefs together and 10 choices just for variants of Christians? ;)
Also, did you forget Jew or just figure nobody here would admit to it?
now that you mention it, LMAO. half of the options are for kristianity! the heck?
Sorry about forgetting Judaism; I was re-sorting some of the options and when copy/pasting I forgot to put it back in (- there is no way to edit it later).

As to the available options I considered the target audience. My assumption is, that the great majority of board members originate from western societies (US, Canada, Europe, Austr./NZ) In western societies 75% of the population are nominally some kind of Christian. 55% of choices for Christian varieties does not seem out of balance. (If I am wrong, and the board turns out to have 75 % Muslims, I will make a new poll and provide more differentiation betweeen the Muslim varieties;))
'Prove and scrutinize all things; hold fast that which is good.'
'And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them.' Paul of Tarsus

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09-13-2006, 02:40 AM, (This post was last modified: 09-13-2006, 02:41 AM by deathstickboy.)
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Poll: What Is Your Faith, Religion Or World-view?
Essentially I am a Pantheist,
Quote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism

Pantheism (Greek: πάν ( 'pan' ) = all and Theos = God) literally means "God is All" and "All is God". It is the view that everything is of an all-encompassing immanent God; or that the universe, or nature, and God are equivalent. More detailed definitions tend to emphasize the idea that natural law, existence, and the universe (the sum total of all that is, was, and shall be) is represented or personified in the theological principle of 'God'.

I was raised a lutheran christian, and I have studied eastern philosophies, my ancestral faith (through modern reconstitution or "neo-paganism") and the occult for 11 years now.
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09-13-2006, 02:43 AM,
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Poll: What Is Your Faith, Religion Or World-view?
Quote:
Quote:Howcome there are 9 choices which lump a whole pile of different beliefs together and 10 choices just for variants of Christians? ;)

Also, did you forget Jew or just figure nobody here would admit to it?

now that you mention it, LMAO. half of the options are for kristianity! the heck? and no one wanting to admit to being a jew? lmao. oh wait dont forget to add THE TRIBE OF LEVI before some idiot (*cough*you know who you are*cough*) bashes you for that too. hehe :P

hey...don't be a cunt:LOL:

Jews are still Jews, but the Torah and the Talmud were written by Levites.;)
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09-13-2006, 04:29 AM,
#8
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You should have just distinguished between christian and catholic and fucked all the sub divisions.

And seperated athiest and agnostic..then the rest is fine.

Thats a more balanced view
Do you really think your a higher form of life? You...With your dripping jaws, and your bloodshot eyes. You...With your varicosities and your vermin for an appendix. You...with your hemroids and assterioids. Often I wake up at night and ponder these matters. And then I feel very strongly that I should talk them over with Brother Theodore...and then, and then I wake up fully and remember that I am Brother Theodore. And my heart aches. And my tears flow. And I see my Aunt Marie floating in the chicken soup...more dead than alive...more naked than not. And oh, now I see a mailman, a mailman giving birth to a dog of all things!

Never a moments peace, never a moments peace...never a moments peace.
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09-13-2006, 04:55 AM, (This post was last modified: 09-13-2006, 04:59 AM by harflimon.)
#9
Poll: What Is Your Faith, Religion Or World-view?
Quote:Essentially I am a Pantheist,
Quote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism

Pantheism (Greek: πάν ( 'pan' ) = all and Theos = God) literally means "God is All" and "All is God". It is the view that everything is of an all-encompassing immanent God; or that the universe, or nature, and God are equivalent. More detailed definitions tend to emphasize the idea that natural law, existence, and the universe (the sum total of all that is, was, and shall be) is represented or personified in the theological principle of 'God'.

I was raised a lutheran christian, and I have studied eastern philosophies, my ancestral faith (through modern reconstitution or "neo-paganism") and the occult for 11 years now.

I like what you say, thought I've never heard it termed that way it's basically how I believe. I haven't completly formed it into a faith, but I feel the universe around me in a way I never did before and after studying everything from holographic universe to universal yogic consciousness I feel a unity between everything.

Edit- Oh and I'm really digging into Tsarion's information on astrology and "The Self". It's terrific stuff. I especially like what he says about fear and anxiety only shying away from what is natural. He explained it really well in his last radio interview with Red-ice radio. Really has me thinking these past few weeks.
The belief in 'coincidence' is the prevalent superstition of the Age of Science.

&I don't understand why you're taking such a belligerant tone when you're obviously the ignorant one here. &
-triplesix
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09-13-2006, 05:06 AM, (This post was last modified: 09-13-2006, 05:08 AM by deathstickboy.)
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Poll: What Is Your Faith, Religion Or World-view?
:LOL:
When I encountered the term Pantheism I felt much the same.
I am scientific in my approach, at least as much as one can be when dealing with subjective experiences.
I don't much care for believing, I'd rather KNOW.

Yes, Tsarion is dead on in that IMO, especially pointing out the infinite love hippy shit in which people want it to be "summer all the time" and stuff like that.

Nature doesnt work that way, even weather at the equator is effected by seasonal change;)
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09-13-2006, 09:00 PM, (This post was last modified: 09-13-2006, 09:07 PM by standvast.)
#11
Poll: What Is Your Faith, Religion Or World-view?
I was not brought up on any religion, my grandfather opposed feeding
children religion rigorously, ..he himself was good at teaching through storytelling though,.:D
i suppose from house out i was taught, what is commonly known as "humanistic" values.

Deathstickboy put it down nicely,
our views coincide pretty well,
i believe we essentially traverse along the same lines.
..
-other-\

Pantheist , by the following interpretation:
every humans / animal's fysical
and mental experiences and perspectives combined is the feed
of consciousness we [humans] allow [my]God to know itself by.
It's a case split personallities and thus persona, mending percieved opposites,
i believe in safekeeping a shrine for ALL deity within these matterformed temples we are.
Nothing personal, but my Divinity/ies can't/won't be petitioned;)

I could have also chosen Hinduism or Buddhism, as many of what
i consider teachings of the universal Laws of cause and effect, and precepts
of non-violence , abstinence , mental training techniques, and basic laws of good thought and conduct stem
from either Hindu or Buddhist origin.

If you can utter an omnifacetted description of your God ,
-you are either it's equal, for you can conceptualise it envisioning it beyond percieved manifestation.
or
-what you envision is not "God" at all
B)

I know many , sometimes i can't even tell them apart from oneanother.:D

One of my Gods is a bastardized woman
One paralysed and deaf-mute since birth
One of my Gods resides on a summit
The rest of them died and took to the Earth.


peace'
standvast.
If Thine I that I spy with my own little I Doeth Offend thee ; Pluck It out.

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09-13-2006, 09:41 PM,
#12
Poll: What Is Your Faith, Religion Or World-view?
I cannot divine whether you guys are saying there is no god and the natural laws of the universe governs everything or that god is some universe-wide gaia collective of everything. If it's the latter, how does conciousness fit in? Does this god have self awareness? And does this cover other dimentions and other universes and the nothing inbetween?
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09-13-2006, 10:19 PM, (This post was last modified: 09-13-2006, 10:20 PM by standvast.)
#13
Poll: What Is Your Faith, Religion Or World-view?
@Tsoldrin,

within my personal construct of divinity ,
there is an energy based Spirit cycle at the heart of everything,
The manifestation of the energy in its percieved presence we title "life"
comparable [macro /micro] to a human or other fysically cast beings life cycle.
there are an infinitessimal amount of descriptive properties,
as this cycle sets in motion a journey of self-reflection.
Through matter energy grows awareness, the conciousness is
experience / karma / the charge of the energy /memory.
Awareness in matter reflects upon itself, and describes itself
by metaphore relating to the world of sensory experience, as well as
it's underlying everchanging "self" nature.
I deny the existance of a modelled God,I deny the existance of a personal God.
But i do not deny the existance of a Energy-based spiritual generative principle,
which manifests everything we percieve t be alive, and many things we percieve to be inanimate.
[-the "percieved inanimate" you can read as :"other dimentions and other universes and the nothing inbetween".;)

Quote:I cannot divine

:Dthat hits the heart of the matter , neither can i.
not with all our language, charts, drawings, metaphores, descriptions.

everything depends upon perception, but i don't equate the natural laws
of the universe to "God" , as i find that an inadequate description. :)
By Universal laws i imply essential properties,inherent to the cyclical motion of [my percieved] Divinity.
not the same as scientific physical observable "laws of nature".

:blink: does that clarify or puzzle you further?

peace'
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09-14-2006, 03:34 AM, (This post was last modified: 09-14-2006, 03:37 AM by deathstickboy.)
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Quote:I cannot divine whether you guys are saying there is no god and the natural laws of the universe governs everything or that god is some universe-wide gaia collective of everything. If it's the latter, how does conciousness fit in? Does this god have self awareness? And does this cover other dimentions and other universes and the nothing inbetween?

God is just an operative word used to describe something that is essentially indescribable. In a sense, yes it is the latter, and consiousness, every bit of it, is the means by which "god" subjectively experiences its self, through "progressive re-incarnation". All dimensions, parallel universes, spiritual planes ect are included in this, the base material existence we experience here being only an infintestimal fraction of the whole.
In a sense, this "god" does not have self awareness, it is awareness its self.
I prefer to call it "the source".

Within this concept their lies the situation of "lesser gods" which could be better described as beings which exist in "higher" (meaning closer to "the source") spiritual realms, and can be interacted with or experienced in some fashion or another, through mental and spiritual training and growth of awareness. This is where the concept of Polytheistic Pantheism comes into play. Occult practices often deal with gaining awareness of and having interaction with non-physical beings, not nescassarily "gods" but discarnate souls, and other spirits which inhabit non-physical realms (concept of "angels", "demons", elementals) and those which are closer and have interaction and dependance on/with the physical world, (nature spirits, faerie creatures) and such. All occult systems essentialy have the same premise, though they often use different archetypes to represent them, or specialize or focus on one group or another.
One example of this is in Qaballah, where biblcal angels are rulers of elemental kingdoms.
Shamanic totems also fall under this category, relating more to the universal/collective spirit of the totem animal which exists in the "higher" (astral) realms.

I'll just stop now cause I could go on and on and on....:P

It may all sound nuts to you ( I am sure it does ) but all I can reccomend if you are really interested is simply to start studying meta-physics and things of that nature, if it doesn't make sense now, it will eventually.
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09-14-2006, 04:05 AM,
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ive "projected astrally" before. id say it safe to say that its nothing more than a conscious dream, but with influences of scientific psychic energy (perceivable only to the conscious mind, at this stage of human awareness, while sleeping).

in the greater picture though. wouldnt it also be safe to say that this mysterious force which binds existence together is in fact scientific? Mankind may be having a troublesome time discovering these things at this point in our evolution, but should we turn to superstition as a result of our present, limited intelligence?

I am not saying that your ideas are impossible however.
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