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Calgary Chemtrails
10-04-2006, 02:49 AM,
Calgary Chemtrails
Hey guys,

I'm new here, but have lurked for a while.

Anyway, I just thought i'd post a little bit of my experience of chemtrails, or lack there of in the Calgary area.

I started researching and looking for them around February 2006. I went in with the mindset that I would not believe they're happening until I could see it for myself with my own eyes.

After a month or so seeing nothing but normal contrails that dissipated quickly thereafter, I thought I spotted my first one.

Two planes made an identical 180 degree turn over my area. They were heading south of the airport, then turned around and headed north back. I thought that this was a good indication of spraying. I was thinking that most planes would go in more or less straight lines because they were going somewhere else, not back to the same airport. The other reason I thought they may be chemtrails was because the length of time they stayed up there for. It was prolonged.

A while after that I saw what I thought was another one, and it rained later that night so I decided to put a glass on my roof to see what the rain would bring down. I'm no scientist, but I thought it might be a little fun to see if I could come up with anything. This is what turned up:

I also took a control when I haden't seen any trails in the sky and the rain water was perfectly clear.

This all being said, I have never seen more than one trail at a time. I have never seen the patterns described by some. I have not seen a chemtrail since the late winter in 2006 in Calgary, and I have been looking.

I have come to the conclusion that during the period I have been watching I have not seen a chemtrail. What I saw previously would be in my books considered suspicious, but in no way is it proof or something that can't be more easily explained.

Thus, I currently do not believe in the chemtrails. Now i'm not saying they don't exist, or that other places are not experiencing them, what i'm saying is that I don't believe Calgary is currently being targeted and therefore cannot draw a conclusion to the validity of the argument.

Until I see something that that changes my mind, I'll probably be a skeptic. I hope it stays that way.

I have watched some of the videos on teh subject, but this is a very hard subject to "believe" without seeing it for yourself. 9/11 is very different because we have inconsistencies errors and a multitude of other facts to go off of, while this is a little more hypothetical.

Anyway, that's all I have to say, but i'll keep looking. Hopefully I won't find anything.
10-04-2006, 05:11 AM,
Calgary Chemtrails
chemtrails in Sault Ste Marie, Ontario October 3 2006

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10-04-2006, 04:27 PM,
Calgary Chemtrails
Quote:The trails behind the planes should evaporate within seconds of going by, sometimes they do but sometimes, they don't and that is what is suspicious.

This claim that all contrails should evaporate quickly is total nonsense. Persistent contrails are not suspicious at all and for anyone to say that they are are making it abundantly clear that they have not looked into the issue.

If a contrail is formed in air of low humidity, the ice crystals will indeed rapidly evaporate, but if the air is saturated enough, the crystals will persist. If it is windy enough the contrails will spread out and can form a cirrus cloud. This is fact and here are some references...

1. Clouds Caused By Aircraft Exhaust May Warm The U.S. Climate, Science Daily, April 28, 2004,
2. Those Mysterious Lines in the Sky by Jay Reynolds, Veritas, Issue No. 21, March 1, 1999, pages 1,3,11 and 12
3. Telescopes 'worthless' by 2050, By Paul Rincon BBC News science reporter, March 2, 2006,
4. S'COOL: Observing Contrails,
5. Contrail Science,
6. Contrails and Climate, Discoveries+Breakthroughs, Inside Science,
7. Analysis of Contrail Type, National Contrail Network,

Quote:The planes are on some odd flight paths as they cross cross the sky.
Quote:That is getting rediculous don't you think look at the major criss crossing going on

What do you expect to see when a planes cross other planes routes? This is total nonsense.

The rest of your post is just repetition and is thus equally ludicrous due to the fact that there is nothing unusual about the normal process of persistent contrails which spread out to form cirrus clouds.

The 'chemtrail conspiracy' is a disinformation hoax, so stop buying it!
10-05-2006, 03:00 AM,
Calgary Chemtrails
Quote:The rest of your post is just repetition and is thus equally ludicrous due to the fact that there is nothing unusual about the normal process of persistent contrails which spread out to form cirrus clouds.

Normal contrails do not form into clouds, thats bullshit, and the cloud seeding/creation technology is admited to and in wide use, even by private contractors.

Get a clue.
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10-05-2006, 07:35 AM,
Calgary Chemtrails
Quote:The rest of your post is just repetition and is thus equally ludicrous due to the fact that there is nothing unusual about the normal process of persistent contrails which spread out to form cirrus clouds.

Normal contrails do not form into clouds, thats bullshit, and the cloud seeding/creation technology is admited to and in wide use, even by private contractors.

Get a clue.

What does cloud seeding technology have to do with the chemtrail bullshit disinformation hoax?

You ignorantly or willingly spout a lie stating that 'normal contrails do not form into clouds' and then follow it with an unrelated statement about weather modification technology. Your embarrassing yourself deathstickboy. :blink:

I guess your didn't read the documented references I listed above, here are some more documented facts to put in your pipe to smoke...

1. Transformation of Contrails Into Cirrus Durring SUCCESS, F-63. Minnis, P.*; Young, D. F.; Nguyen, L.; Garber, D. P.; Smith, W. L., Jr.; and Palikonda, R., Geophysical Research Letters SUCCESS Special Issue, October 1997, pp.1157-1160

Quote:Abstract. Three contrail systems were analyzed with geostationary satellite data to document the conversion of the contrails to cirrus clouds. Two unique contrails, a pair of figure eights and a NASA DC-8 oval, were tracked for more than 7 hours. A cluster of contrails from commercial aircraft lasted over 17 hours. The figure eights produced a cirrus cloud having a maximum extent of 12,000 km2; the commercial cluster reached an area of ~35,000 km2. The contrail-cirrus were thin with optical depths between 0.2 and 0.5. In all cases, cloud particle size increased as the contrails developed into cirrus clouds. The climatic impact of contrails will be greater than would be estimated if only linear contrails, those typically observed in satellite imagery, are considered. Additional research is required to obtain reliable statistics on contrail growth and lifetime.

2. Spreading of Isolated Contrails During the 2001 Air Traffic Shutdown

Quote:Persistent contrails often form in air with relative humidities with respect to ice (RHI) exceeding 100% but with relative humidities with respect to water (RH) less than 100%. Cirrus cloud formation generally requires RH > 100%. Thus, contrails can form clouds in conditions that would not support the formation of most natural cirrus.

3. Contrail Facts, United States Airforce

Depending on the temperature and the amount of moisture in the air at the aircraft altitude, contrails can either evaporate quickly or they can persist and grow.

So who are folks gonna believe? Shall we believe publications which make claims of cancers being present in chemtrail samples ( or shall we believe people who have studied the subject for nearly 20 years? Proven liars like William Thomas or scientifically sound and verifiable information? Someone who digs into their jaw with a needle and extracts tissue claiming it is evidence of chemtrail fibres ( or common sense and reason based on real research?

Wake up sheeple!

*Dr. Pat Minnis has been fascinated by contrails for many years, especially since NASA began to consider in the early 1990's how they might affect climate. He has been studying clouds from satellites since 1977 and started examining how contrails turn into cirrus clouds in 1993. He still finds contrails very interesting, yet difficult to study. He currently works at the NASA Langley Research Center.
10-06-2006, 01:56 AM,
Calgary Chemtrails
I'm staying out of this one... doing it on another forum:)


Psssstt... Skinski is wrong.
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R.I.P-ranks Terence. I miss your take on life.
10-21-2006, 11:35 PM,
Calgary Chemtrails
Like the Government links Skinski

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10-21-2006, 11:37 PM,
Calgary Chemtrails
Oh and by the way who has Proven William Thomas is a liar ?
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