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Proove To Me Prayer Works
10-22-2006, 10:18 AM,
#31
Proove To Me Prayer Works
I'm not a christian, but I'm not an idiot. I'm sorry, dude, prayer just doesn't work that way.
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10-22-2006, 11:35 AM, (This post was last modified: 10-22-2006, 12:35 PM by DHammer.)
#32
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Quote:Interesting DHammer. In all the churches I've attended, they're always preaching about how you can be saved instantly, and its purely a decision that you can make 'right now'. If you're up for it, I'd be interested in hearing your conversion experience, and what your definition of a Christian is. But not in this thread. Too many trolls here.

okay :D

btw what the churches talk about is conversion. That is not when Christ enters your heart. That's regeneration (of what you might ask ? of the heart of course)
Matthew 7:14
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

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10-25-2006, 11:37 PM,
#33
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Quote:Christ sucks.

Prayer is BS.

Christians can't see past there own beleifs. THey are completely subjective.

Have you met Christ?

Have you tried praying?

The ablility to see past my "own beliefs" is the exact reason I became a Christian (thru God's intervention).

I don't think you know what subjective means.

subjective 
/–adjective

1. existing in the mind; belonging to the thinking subject rather than to the object of thought (opposed to objective).
2. pertaining to or characteristic of an individual; personal; individual: a subjective evaluation.
3. placing excessive emphasis on one's own moods, attitudes, opinions, etc.; unduly egocentric.
4. Philosophy. relating to or of the nature of an object as it is known in the mind as distinct from a thing in itself.
5. relating to properties or specific conditions of the mind as distinguished from general or universal experience.
6. pertaining to the subject or substance in which attributes inhere; essential.


I believe YOUR subjective, Christians adhear to an external set of guildlines, the Bible, not what they feel like believing is right or wrong.
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10-26-2006, 02:02 AM, (This post was last modified: 10-26-2006, 02:03 AM by alexclaton.)
#34
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im living proof that it doesnt work... so many ppl have prayed for my death it isnt even funny... some even did it right in front of me...

if prayer worked diseases would cease to exist...

Quote:Have you met Christ?

HAS ANYONE???
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10-26-2006, 02:44 AM,
#35
Proove To Me Prayer Works

  1. Formed, as in opinions, based upon subjective feelings or intuition, not upon observation or reasoning, which can be influenced by preconception; coming more from within the observer rather than from observations of the external environment.<>
    [st]I was thinking of this. Everybody has a different interp of the bible. Ever heard of the reformation?
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10-26-2006, 02:45 AM,
#36
Proove To Me Prayer Works
Quote:Have you met Christ?

No, but I met Jesus-pronounced hey-sue-s. He sold me a burrito yesterday.
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10-26-2006, 04:34 AM,
#37
Proove To Me Prayer Works
Why is it all christians defending their faith? Surely there are more than just xtians and non theists on these forums?

Anyway, xtianity doesn't need defending, god is perfect and doesn't need imperfect humans proclaiming his worth. Sure, without people yammering on about god all the time, there would be less religious people, but there would be a few. Let's face it, the majority of church goers are not really ascribing to their religion, otherwise there would be more witchhunts, stoning people for working the sabbath, killing gays, chucking female teachers out of school, making woman dress modestly, killing children for being disobedient, and thanking jesus for being so loving.
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“I am truly free only when all human beings, men and women, are equally free.
The freedom of other men, far from negating or limiting my freedom, is, on the contrary,
its necessary premise and confirmation.” - Mikhael Bakunin
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10-26-2006, 05:07 AM,
#38
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Quote:god is perfect and doesn't need imperfect humans proclaiming his worth

Says who
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10-26-2006, 12:40 PM, (This post was last modified: 10-26-2006, 12:40 PM by DHammer.)
#39
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the_enemy Wrote:God is perfect and doesn't need imperfect humans proclaiming his worth



INDEED He doesn't NEED YOU. In your current state you are useless to Him. BUT BECAUSE of His essence, His very condition, He must and will help the needy. That's called grace, unmerited favor. Because of that He will grant us a way of salvation, and already did.
Matthew 7:14
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

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10-26-2006, 01:24 PM,
#40
Proove To Me Prayer Works
Oh, somewhere in the bible it states god's perfect, and his laws are perfect, so the vast majority of the world that works on sundays deserves to be killed.

Quote:INDEED He doesn't NEED YOU. In your current state you are useless to Him. BUT BECAUSE of His essence, His very condition, He must and will help the needy. That's called grace, unmerited favor. Because of that He will grant us a way of salvation, and already did.

Barefaced lies are not endearing. Supposing your god existed, would you want to be associated with such a violent being? It's testament to your own negative intentions.
[Image: warprofiteers.jpg]
“I am truly free only when all human beings, men and women, are equally free.
The freedom of other men, far from negating or limiting my freedom, is, on the contrary,
its necessary premise and confirmation.” - Mikhael Bakunin
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10-26-2006, 02:11 PM,
#41
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Or its showing that you have such sadness inside you that you need to hide in a mirage alone.

Prayer works for the simple fact that getting on your knees helps to open the ankles and bend the knees as well as open the hips.

Anger, the flow of life and ego.
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10-26-2006, 10:28 PM,
#42
Proove To Me Prayer Works
Quote:Prayer works for the simple fact that getting on your knees helps to open the ankles and bend the knees as well as open the hips.

I think grabbing the ankles would be much more productive
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10-26-2006, 10:36 PM,
#43
Proove To Me Prayer Works
I think, not wasting time on superstition, and thinking for yourself is more productive.
[Image: warprofiteers.jpg]
“I am truly free only when all human beings, men and women, are equally free.
The freedom of other men, far from negating or limiting my freedom, is, on the contrary,
its necessary premise and confirmation.” - Mikhael Bakunin
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10-26-2006, 11:35 PM,
#44
Proove To Me Prayer Works
Quote:I think, not wasting time on superstition, and thinking for yourself is more productive.
productive for who ? you or the society ?
nature shows us over and over again that by going "solo" you`re nothing. Try living isolated from all the people. you can't.
Matthew 7:14
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

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10-26-2006, 11:59 PM,
#45
Proove To Me Prayer Works
Tom Hanks did fine with a volleyball

All kidding aside, that last comment was bullshit. You have no proof of that, plus you're not defending religion, just herd mentality.

Don't let your retorts wane into pure stupidity.
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