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Man Kills Girlfriend
10-20-2006, 07:16 AM,
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Man Kills Girlfriend
What a horrible story. You know the part I found most interesting of all of the whole thing after I read it. Notice where they were living. In an apartment above a VooDoo Shop. You've probably heard before stories of cursed objects and evil things that bring demons/evil...whatever you want to call it.

I think this might have happened here. Maybe something in that VooDoo shop was influencing him. Doesn't this murder sound like some savage Voodoo ritual? Scary.

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http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/101...eBody19-ON.html
Man jumps to death, girlfriend's head found on stove

NEW ORLEANS - After Hurricane Katrina, Zackery Bowen and his girlfriend Adriane Hall appeared in news stories as examples of young people who had pressed on in the battered city despite evacuation orders and a lack of power and water.

Their story came to a disturbing end this week: Bowen leapt to his death from a hotel, leaving a note that led police to a French Quarter apartment where they found a woman's charred head on the stove, limbs in the oven and torso in the refrigerator.

Bowen's note said he had strangled and dismembered his girlfriend, but did not mention her name, police said Wednesday. Authorities said that because of the condition of the dismembered woman's body they could not immediately identify her. They were looking for Hall, however.

n the note, Bowen wrote: "I scared myself not by the action of calmly strangling the woman I've loved for one and a half years .... but by my entire lack of remorse," according to The Times-Picayune newspaper, which said it had obtained a copy of the note.

Bowen wrote that he had $1,500 in cash and spent it lavishly before killing himself, the newspaper reported: "So that's what I did: good food, good drugs, good strippers, good friends and any loose ends I may have had."

Police would not confirm the wording.

The body was found late Tuesday in the second-floor apartment that Bowen and Hall had shared above a voodoo shop, according to the landlord.

A woman who identified herself as Priestess Miriam Chamani in the Voodoo Spiritual Temple and Cultural Center below the apartment said the couple had recently moved in.

"You never know what's going on in people's minds," she said, incense wafting onto the sidewalk from her shop.

The apartment's owner, Leo Watermeier, said he last saw Hall on Oct. 5, four days after the couple put down a deposit on the one-bedroom, $750-a month apartment. Later that day, Watermeier said, Bowen called him, angrily saying the woman was kicking him out.

Watermeier said Hall told him she had caught the boyfriend cheating.

The motive appeared to be a dispute over rent, police spokesman and chief of detectives Anthony Cannatella said. It indicated Bowen strangled the woman after an argument and cut up her body with a hand saw and knife, according to police.

"He took his life to compensate for the life he had taken," Cannatella said.

The note, Cannatella said, indicated the woman was killed early in the morning of Oct. 5, in apparent conflict with the landlord's account of seeing them that day.

A story published by Newhouse News Service last year described the couple gathering tree limbs for cooking fires and trading alcohol - easy to get because of their jobs as bartenders - for clean water.

They also found a creative way to make sure police kept patrolling their home: a story in The New York Times included her flashing her breasts at officers to make sure they drove by.

"We've been able to see the stars for the first time," Hall told Newhouse after the storm last year. "Before, this was a 24-hour lit city. Now it's peaceful."

Holly Jacker, who tended bar with Bowen, said he was outgoing and a hit with the ladies.

"Women loved him," she said Wednesday night, over the din of music in at Buffa's, the dimly lit bar. "He was gorgeous, charming, a big fat flirt."

Det. Ronald Ruiz said police hoped to make a positive ID of the body, using DNA or dental records, sometime next week. He said police estimated the dismembered woman was in her mid to late-20s.

Joy Spaulding, who works at the nearby Nawlin's Flava cafe, said she occasionally saw Hall and Bowen. "To be honest, they seemed like a real nice couple. They were good-looking people, young people trying to do something with their lives," she said.
Do you really think your a higher form of life? You...With your dripping jaws, and your bloodshot eyes. You...With your varicosities and your vermin for an appendix. You...with your hemroids and assterioids. Often I wake up at night and ponder these matters. And then I feel very strongly that I should talk them over with Brother Theodore...and then, and then I wake up fully and remember that I am Brother Theodore. And my heart aches. And my tears flow. And I see my Aunt Marie floating in the chicken soup...more dead than alive...more naked than not. And oh, now I see a mailman, a mailman giving birth to a dog of all things!

Never a moments peace, never a moments peace...never a moments peace.
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10-20-2006, 07:39 AM,
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I don't think its fair to blame the voodoo shop. People are fucked in the head all on their own as it is, we don't need "curses" as an excuse for insane behavior.

The fact that he went out and partied after murdering his girlfriend and hacking her up, shows that he was clearly deranged all on his own, in my opinion.
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10-20-2006, 07:47 AM,
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Quote:I don't think its fair to blame the voodoo shop. People are fucked in the head all on their own as it is, we don't need "curses" as an excuse for insane behavior.

The fact that he went out and partied after murdering his girlfriend and hacking her up, shows that he was clearly deranged all on his own, in my opinion.

No the fact that he murdered his girlfriend in that manner shows he was clearly already quite derannged. I think the fact that he went out and partied afterwards is second to the par after being capable of doing that in the first place. There's a point where your actions can't get any worse and I think he already crossed that line.

I disagree. I believe strongly in ritual murder and otherworldly influence. Sure, alot of people are just selfish and greedy and do things irrationally. That still doesn't cancell out the possibility of extreme influence and pressure by forces unknown.

Even we in our day to day lives don't really have any idea of how much of our bad thoughts and deeds are due to possible whispering in our sub concious. There are just different levels of influence.

This has the distinct characteristics of ritual murder. And I'm sorry, I blame the Voodoo. I know for a fact first hand that objects can be cursed and bring things into your life and home
Do you really think your a higher form of life? You...With your dripping jaws, and your bloodshot eyes. You...With your varicosities and your vermin for an appendix. You...with your hemroids and assterioids. Often I wake up at night and ponder these matters. And then I feel very strongly that I should talk them over with Brother Theodore...and then, and then I wake up fully and remember that I am Brother Theodore. And my heart aches. And my tears flow. And I see my Aunt Marie floating in the chicken soup...more dead than alive...more naked than not. And oh, now I see a mailman, a mailman giving birth to a dog of all things!

Never a moments peace, never a moments peace...never a moments peace.
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10-20-2006, 07:51 AM,
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You'd be suprised (or maybe not) at the high percentile of serial killers and those who commit odd murder spree's - that are into the occult and odd magic.

Whether you choose to blame that as a function of the mind or not I suppose is up to you however.
Do you really think your a higher form of life? You...With your dripping jaws, and your bloodshot eyes. You...With your varicosities and your vermin for an appendix. You...with your hemroids and assterioids. Often I wake up at night and ponder these matters. And then I feel very strongly that I should talk them over with Brother Theodore...and then, and then I wake up fully and remember that I am Brother Theodore. And my heart aches. And my tears flow. And I see my Aunt Marie floating in the chicken soup...more dead than alive...more naked than not. And oh, now I see a mailman, a mailman giving birth to a dog of all things!

Never a moments peace, never a moments peace...never a moments peace.
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10-20-2006, 07:59 AM,
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I think the guy had a plan to get rid of the body by eating her, but could not go through with it. So he had to do something so killed himself.
In the 60's, people took acid to make the world weird. Now the world is weird and people take Prozac to make it normal.

As a reputed atheist, the reverential nature of his film was surprising, but Pasolini himself said &If you know that I am an unbeliever, then you know me better than I do myself. I may be an unbeliever, but I am an unbeliever who has a nostalgia for a belief.&


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10-20-2006, 08:08 AM, (This post was last modified: 10-20-2006, 08:24 AM by Conspiracy Dave.)
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Quote:I think the guy had a plan to get rid of the body by eating her, but could not go through with it. So he had to do something so killed himself.

And yeah, thats just the normal logical conclussion you come to after you kill somebody. You decide to dispose of the body by eating it. Not dump it in the river. And dont say he was going to do it because he didn't want to get caught carrying it out of his apartment. Ok sure we'll pretend that was the case - why the hell would he cook it too then?

No, I dont think so. Thats another pretty fucked up, ritualistic way to consider doing things. It shows your fucked. I would say that aspect would only support the Voodoo/possesion aspect of this.

However, it's true that maybe he managed to come to his sences a bit and like you said couldn't go through with it and killed himself, to save himself when he maaged to logically realize how far gone he'd become.

Remember in his note said the scariest part of this is not what I've done but that the fact that I have no remorse for my actions.

He intellectually came to the conclussion he was forgone into the abyss of himself and decided to self terminate based on what he could intellectually decide was right or wrong. But it was in no way an emotional decision.
Do you really think your a higher form of life? You...With your dripping jaws, and your bloodshot eyes. You...With your varicosities and your vermin for an appendix. You...with your hemroids and assterioids. Often I wake up at night and ponder these matters. And then I feel very strongly that I should talk them over with Brother Theodore...and then, and then I wake up fully and remember that I am Brother Theodore. And my heart aches. And my tears flow. And I see my Aunt Marie floating in the chicken soup...more dead than alive...more naked than not. And oh, now I see a mailman, a mailman giving birth to a dog of all things!

Never a moments peace, never a moments peace...never a moments peace.
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10-20-2006, 09:39 AM,
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Christianity has just as much ritualistic scary crap going on as any other religion... it's just that you're used to it. But by all means, gather a mob and go stone the voodoo woman... or better yet, burn her alive:)

Someone has to pay, so everyone can feel safe.
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10-21-2006, 06:52 AM,
#8
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He strangled her to death, what is ritualistic about that?

It may be a bit harsh of me to say this, but the "Well it happened above a voodoo shop" is the same sort of mentality from back in the day, when a farmers cow gave birth to a 2 headed cow, and he accused the old lady living on the edge of town who knows things about herbs of "cursing" him.

Its guilt by proximity.

Why would he cook it? I don't know, why would he strangle his girlfriend to death in the first place? In the story it says he was cheating on her, and got caught, so obviously there is more going on there than just "living above a voodoo shop".

New Orleans is a very old city with alot of ghosts, I personally don't think that a near by voodoo shop would have be involved for such spiritual influences to take place if such was the case.

Just my opinon though.
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10-21-2006, 07:05 AM,
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Its incredible how fucked up people are. I know this guy got this great idea. Yeah!!! Ill fucking eat her hahahah.
And then thought about it and said " WOW SHIT I DONT THINK I CAN DO IT! What A fucking idiot.
In the 60's, people took acid to make the world weird. Now the world is weird and people take Prozac to make it normal.

As a reputed atheist, the reverential nature of his film was surprising, but Pasolini himself said &If you know that I am an unbeliever, then you know me better than I do myself. I may be an unbeliever, but I am an unbeliever who has a nostalgia for a belief.&


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11-07-2006, 07:44 PM,
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Quote:Man Kills Girlfriend, Head found in pot on stove, limbs in oven, torso in the fridge

...dinner is served...yam yam...pass the salt pliz...
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