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George Bush Nwo Speech Error?
11-13-2006, 06:13 PM,
#1
George Bush Nwo Speech Error?
Hello all at ConCen

I've got an issue that came up over on a forum last night which I hope some on here may be able to shed some light on.

We all know the famous New World Order speech by George Bush on September 11th 1990, but it has been pointed out to me that this date is wrong and the speech was in fact made on January 29th, 1991.

This morning I investigated a little further by going to the library, unfortunately they only have local news records back to the 18th century as I live in a small town. I'll check at The City Library when I'm next there to see if I can find anything.

I always understood that the speech was on the above date but it has been brought to my attention that it was in fact made on January 29th, 1991 (Address Before a Joint Session of the Congress on the State of the Union)

This came out strongly in a thread on a forum here that I was involved in here -

http://p4.forumforfree.com/viewtopic.php?t=2611

Here is a snippet...

Quote's -

Quote:Iro - "Have a look. This website has every single speech ever made by every single president of America - even down to just regular Q&A sessions.
See what you make of it (i've linked straight to the speech in question):
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=19253
tony - if you must do as i did and check the official congressional records"

Now I don't know what to make of all this. And any help you could could give me would be most appreciated.

The Speech....

We have before us the opportunity to forge, for ourselves and for future generations, A New World Order, a world where the rule of law, not the law of the jungle, governs the conduct of nations, when we are successful, and we will be, we have a real chance of this New World Order, an order in which a credible United Nations, can use it's peacekeeping role to fulfill the promise and vision of it's founders.

You can see and here it directly from the horses mouth at google video by clicking here


I know doesn't make much of a difference to the grand scheme of things but it's an important issueto me, and I like to have my facts straight when I present them to people.

Thanks in advance for any input.
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11-13-2006, 06:43 PM,
#2
George Bush Nwo Speech Error?
No, there are 2 speeches where Bush talks about the NWO. One in the state of the Union address in January 29th 1991
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...orld+order+bush

and another from what I believe is the Oval Office, which was the one on Sept.11th 1990

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...orld+order+bush

:biggrin:
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11-13-2006, 07:09 PM,
#3
George Bush Nwo Speech Error?
Thanks deathstickboy, I was sure that this speech was made on sept 11th as reported.

The site linked to above gives the date as January 29th, 1991 and I've been in a heavy debate about it with someone on Illusions who says this whole new world order idea is bollocks! Even though it is plainly obvious and spoken of by Bush many a time and other politicians including clinton etc.

And of course the announcement on the dollar bill, and the obvious forming of the new world order today.

But I noticed one thing that was straight in my face all the time that you've pointed out to me.

A quote from the records says Address Before a Joint Session of the Congress on the State of the Union.

Now we can see clearly above that this is not in Congress but in a room and he is behind the window, and I agree, it looks like The Oval Office.

And politicians are always repeating themselves, so it clearly points to two speeches made on two different dates using the same bullshit words.

I still fear this won't be accepted, the guy I'm debating it with has a real problem with Alex Jones and blames this error on him, and says he is not a conspiracy theorist, and doesn't want to be associated with illuminati 'jerks' but I'll give it ago when illusions comes back on line, he is an approachable guy in any case. If he can get his head out of The Crowley Books he's gotten into that is, he's stated Crowley is an basically mis represented and I nice guy, and if face with the choice would go with the devil over god anyday, when I pointed out crowleys masonic and illuminati history the topic was split and lead on to this one!

Thanks again, it was baffling me a bit this one.

:laugh:
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11-13-2006, 07:24 PM,
#4
George Bush Nwo Speech Error?
Quote:I still fear this won't be accepted, the guy I'm debating it with has a real problem with Alex Jones and blames this error on him, and says he is not a conspiracy theorist, and doesn't want to be associated with illuminati 'jerks' but I'll give it ago when illusions comes back on line, he is an approachable guy in any case. If he can get his head out of The Crowley Books he's gotten into that is, he's stated Crowley is an basically mis represented and I nice guy, and if face with the choice would go with the devil over god anyday, when I pointed out crowleys masonic and illuminati history the topic was split and lead on to this one!

Yeah, its funny how people can be so willfully ignorant, rabidly seizing minor errors or oversights as proof that the entire premise is bullshit. Quite sad really.

The funiest part about that guy you mentioned, is that within some of Crowley's work, he actually spells out the fact that the "illuminati" control most aspects of human life its really quite amusing that someone could be "into crowley" but not believe in the NWO, since his writings on the "council of nine" and other such things is practically a dissertation of the Elites controlling/manipulating governments through mystical orders.
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11-13-2006, 07:39 PM,
#5
George Bush Nwo Speech Error?
Thanks for posting that presidential speech site... it's cool!

btw, you can just use that as your reference, the sept 11th 1990 speech is on it of course http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.ph...mp;st=&st1=
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11-13-2006, 07:53 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-13-2006, 08:00 PM by standvast.)
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George Bush Nwo Speech Error?
great find, that site, ..

hey how you like this, huh?

Quote:Search Results : Using keyword(s) [ new world order FROM 1789 to 2006]
Date Actor / Type
Title Record(s) found: 106

i checked , it only gives results where there is actual mention of a New-World-Order,
:grin:show this to the guy you where debating...


Franklin D. Roosevelt
Richard Nixon
Gerald R. Ford
Jimmy Carter
Ronald Reagan
George Bush
William J. Clinton
George W. Bush


which one is a republicrat and which a democon?

peace'
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11-13-2006, 07:55 PM,
#7
George Bush Nwo Speech Error?
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Full 9/11 timeline:

9-11-1941 : The center of the pentagram ( Also called the "Pentagon" ) began construction

9-11-1990 : Bush Senior calls for the "new world order" in a speech to the U.S. Congress

9-11-1993 : Bush Senior calls for the "new world order" in an interview

9-11-2001 : To the day 60 Years after the start of the Pentagram center ( Pentagon ) the "new world order" was
introduced in plain sight to the public, in fact so obviously it scared the hell out of everyone so that no one even DARED to question it, because "this cant be true, it just cant?" .... Why: "Because it just cant... NOTHING is this big, right?"....
well right? WRONG !!!


SOURCE:
http://www.uniquedestiny.com/pacman/viewtopic.php?t=127
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11-13-2006, 08:00 PM,
#8
George Bush Nwo Speech Error?
Quote:Thanks for posting that presidential speech site... it's cool!

btw, you can just use that as your reference, the sept 11th 1990 speech is on it of course http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.ph...mp;st=&st1=

Now that is fucking brilliant tsoldrin.

Not a chance he or anyone else can argue with that, especially when this is his source of proof that he based this undersight on, I can't wait to share the news, when the forum gets back on line that it, its been off for a few hours now but it's been happening a lot lately

But I won't force the humble pie down his throat....

Much:freaked:
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11-13-2006, 08:03 PM,
#9
George Bush Nwo Speech Error?
add Chile's 9/11 to that

http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl2020/sto...10000505800.htm
I don't see how when these people get on tv and talk like this that they don't just bust out laughing. I sure would, &phhheeh, sorry folks, haha, I can't read this anymore. Truth is, we're scamming the holy shit out of all of you. We're large, and in charge. Illuminati is in the hizzouse! East Sah-eeeed!& -Henry
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11-13-2006, 08:21 PM,
#10
George Bush Nwo Speech Error?
Quote:
Quote:I still fear this won't be accepted, the guy I'm debating it with has a real problem with Alex Jones and blames this error on him, and says he is not a conspiracy theorist, and doesn't want to be associated with illuminati 'jerks' but I'll give it ago when illusions comes back on line, he is an approachable guy in any case. If he can get his head out of The Crowley Books he's gotten into that is, he's stated Crowley is an basically mis represented and I nice guy, and if face with the choice would go with the devil over god anyday, when I pointed out crowleys masonic and illuminati history the topic was split and lead on to this one!

Yeah, its funny how people can be so willfully ignorant, rabidly seizing minor errors or oversights as proof that the entire premise is bullshit. Quite sad really.

The funniest part about that guy you mentioned, is that within some of Crowley's work, he actually spells out the fact that the "illuminati" control most aspects of human life its really quite amusing that someone could be "into crowley" but not believe in the NWO, since his writings on the "council of nine" and other such things is practically a dissertation of the Elites controlling/manipulating governments through mystical orders.


It is mate, I'd been through all this with him and when I pointed that he is illuminati through and made clear Crowleys record through out his history, The Golden Dawn, OTO, and all the other masonic and illuminati connections he then went on to say that he thought the new world order and illuminati ideas are bollocks.

Funny though, how in the same post before it was splitted he was talking about sigil magic and how you should make a sigil and look at it in sexual climax to make it effective, and then in the next breath he say the new world order is bollocks, even though the nwo is of course no secret whatsoever! It's not even a hidden thing, they've announced it and told us what they are doing, and its in place with UN, what more evidence do you need, and thats without going into the history of the seal put together by masons and what it announces and all the other wealth of info on the subject

Sheeple eh?
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11-13-2006, 08:52 PM,
#11
George Bush Nwo Speech Error?
Illusions is still off line but I've put together my reply ready.....

Bush's New World Order Speech was in fact made on September 11th, And Iro's own evidence proves it.

Nice to see illusions is finally back on line, been eager to post this.

Iro, I'm pleased to inform yourself and everyone that The Speech was in fact made on September 11th

Here's the beggings of my enquiries....

(Without being too smug remember when you said in a smug way, here's the link, this is what I do? Well you didn't do it very well, and when you said that you heard Alex admitted the error himself, well, I don't know where you got that from and would like to know more as it smells very iffy when you read on)

I don't know what you do for a living, you say you are a professional researcher but where is your research? Do you have a website. Do you in fact work for anyone? Including yourself?

I am an investigative journalist, I run my own local paper, and My New NOIDCHIP campaign, and various websites, and make all my details known, and here is what investigative journalists do, if I'd have had my eyes open a bit better, I wouldn't have even had to have gone this far and debunked your dis info immediately....

This morning the first thing I did was get a collegue on this aswell. I then headed to my local library, which didn't hold non local newspapers for that period although they found out and pointed me to the library in the city which was my next future port of call.

Then I looked a bit further at home on the net, note the title of the article in the link you posted as proof

Address Before a Joint Session of the Congress on the State of the Union
January 29th, 1991

Now watch the video

Now watch the video here

It is not in congress! It is the oval office.

It was put forward to me on conspiracy central that Bush (as of course we know politicians do on a regular basis) simply repeated this speech from September 11th on January 1991. This could be where all the confusion in this matter lies and certainly goes a long way to explaining it all.

I then contacted Alex Jones about your statements you made about him and am awaiting a reply from infowars on this.

The investigation continued......

Before I show you the clear and undenyable proof let me echo myself.....

Forgetting announcements of old, the connection between The masons and government and the great seal of america, The New World Order has been announced by world leaders in modern times, clinton, blair, bush time and time again and more, and it's plain to see it coming into view as

Bush stated in his speech with The United Nations. can you see the connection here!

They've announced it Iro, in history and in modern times, They are telling you what they are doing, could it really be more clearer than that?

Now for the proof?

Thanks to the great members on ConCen, who we also have to thank for sniffing the brandon corey bullshit out at an early stage all is revealed as a complete oversight on your part.

And for this I will use your own evidence, something which makes Alex Jones so good as he uses the elites own time lines and shows it to be bullshit!

You know that link you gave me, the so called proof of yours, well if you'd have gone a little further on the very same site, you would see that -

Bush's speech of Sept 11, 1990 is also on there.

To save you time here's the link....

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.ph...mp;st=&st1=

Get your head out of the crowley books Iro, and bend over while I slap your arse for being a disinfo artist!

Only joking on the last line, I'm not accusing you of purposefully being a dis info artist, but be careful as you can easily be one by accident, the rest of my comments I stand by.

Lifttheveil
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11-13-2006, 09:39 PM,
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George Bush Nwo Speech Error?
lol Iro is a smug bastard, I find his position odd though, since as far as I know he believes that Sept 11th was an inside job ect.... *shrugs*

I find it odd when people seem to claim that the "NWO" is a concept made up by conspiracy theorists and not something that the elites have been talking about openly for the last 100 years or so....
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11-13-2006, 10:20 PM,
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lol of course he doesn't believe the "illuminati jerks" he is one

doest what thou whilst

the guy reads the most occultic satantic mans writings in the 20th century who was lodge master of several masonic lodges in his life time and one of the youngest 33rds ever.
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11-14-2006, 12:21 AM,
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Can you notice the orgasmic look on his face when he says "New World Order" and after that, just unusual facial expressions for a professional liar, that's because for once he's telling his truth to the public and it's orgasmic to him. lol
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11-14-2006, 02:38 AM, (This post was last modified: 11-14-2006, 03:11 AM by blove8..)
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Awesome resource! > http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php

I've taken it upon myself to put some of these quotes into context...

"Hitler has often protested that his plans for conquest do not extend across the Atlantic Ocean. His submarines and raiders prove otherwise. So does the entire design of his new world order.

For example, I have in my possession a secret map made in Germany by Hitler's Government—by the planners of the new world order. It is a map of South America and a part of Central America, as Hitler proposes to reorganize it. Today in this area there are fourteen separate countries. But the geographical experts of Berlin have ruthlessly obliterated all existing boundary lines; they have divided South America into five vassal states, bringing the whole continent under their domination. And they have also so arranged it that the territory of one of these new puppet states includes the Republic of Panama and our great life line—the Panama Canal. That is his plan. It will never go into effect."

Franklin D. Roosevelt - Address for Navy and Total Defense Day.
October 27th, 1941


"You believe deeply in your system, and we believe just as deeply in our system. It is not our common beliefs that have brought us together here, but our common interests and our common hopes, the interest that each of us has to maintain our independence and the security of our peoples and the hope that each of us has to build a new world order in which nations and peoples with different systems and different values can live together in peace, respecting one another while disagreeing with one another, letting history rather than the battlefield be the judge of their different ideas."

Richard Nixon - Toasts of the President and Premier Chou En-lai of China at a Banquet Honoring the Premier in Peking.
February 25th, 1972


"You remember V-J Day and V-E Day. I recall that on V-J Day I was in New York City, in Times Square, with my wife, and the wonderful elation that we all felt about the war--it was over. And then came the United Nations and all the hope for a new world order, and we thought, now we are going to have real peace."

Richard Nixon - Remarks in Ashland, Kentucky.
October 26th, 1972


"It is necessary that the industrial world understand that the creation of that new world order demands bold initiatives and global solutions, with major changes in the living standards of the rich nations insofar as they may be derived from the exploitation of the poorer nations."

Jimmy Carter - Visit of President Perez of Venezuela Toasts of the President and President Perez at a Dinner Honoring the Venezuelan President.
June 28th, 1977


"We are encouraged to know that the United States is committed to work towards the creation of a more just world economic system, because we also desire the elimination of a situation in which nations of the world are prominently categorized as industrialized and developing states, haves and have-nots. I am happy that we are both committed to the creation of a new world order which will take due cognizance of the interdependence between states, a world in which nation states will relate to one another on the basis of equality, understanding, and mutual respect."

Jimmy Carter - Visit of Lieutenant General Obasanjo of Nigeria Toasts of the President and Lieutenant General Obasanjo at a Dinner Honoring the Nigerian Head of State.
October 11th, 1977


"Indeed, there have been many efforts made to overcome these various disturbances. But the outcome has not ensured its total solution. In the framework of trying to find a fundamental solution and to achieve an overall improvement of the inequalities in the world, the one and only answer is that all nations, big or small, strong or weak, strive together, motivated by the firm determination to build a new world order which guarantees political justice, economic justice, and social justice.

Unavoidably, it must be the common stand and concerted efforts of all nations on our unitary planet, because with the growingly closer relation amongst nations, due to the progress brought about by the human civilization at present and in the future, whether we like it or not, we must consider the world as the common homeland of all nations.

I'm aware that it is not easy to build a new world order. There must be, therefore, concrete steps which will at least prevent the deterioration of world developments, which may cause our solitary world to fall into the abyss of greater disaster, which may probably terminate the history of man and mankind. In such a world situation, filled with anxiety, obviously the world's attention, particularly of the developing countries, is focused for its umpteenth time on the United States."

Ronald Regan - Toasts of President Reagan and President Soeharto of Indonesia at the State Dinner
October 12th, 1982


"Well, I think on the second part of the question that we ought to get on with the business at hand, the shorter run business, which is the solution to this question: the making right the situation in Kuwait, meaning the pulling out of forces, obviously, and the restoration of the rulers. As I look at the countries that are chipping in here now, I think we do have a chance at a new world order, and I'd like to think that out of this dreary performance by Saddam Hussein there could be now an opportunity for peace all through the Middle East. But we have to be sure that what's been undertaken so far is successful before we can move to that other agenda, it seems to me."

George H.W. Bush - The President's News Conference on the Persian Gulf Crisis
August 30th, 1990


"The United Nations can help bring about a new day, a day when these kinds of terrible weapons and the terrible despots who would use them are both a thing of the past. It is in our hands to leave these dark machines behind, in the Dark Ages where they belong, and to press forward to cap a historic movement towards a new world order and a long era of peace."

George H.W. Bush - Address Before the 45th Session of the United Nations General Assembly in New York, New York
October 1st, 1990


"This is a new and hopeful world but one full of danger. I am convinced that your country, through you, has a historic role in trying to make sure that there is, after all, a new world order, rooted in peace, dedicated to prosperity and opportunity."

Bill Clinton - Remarks to the Crew of the U.S.S. Theodore Roosevelt
March 12th, 1993


President Mubarak - "I would like to say something about the NPT. In 1968, we were one of the 18 countries who participated in drafting the agreement of the NPT. We are supporting the NPT. We know that the NPT is for the welfare of the whole world in the new world order. And we know it's very important that all parties should join the NPT. We are working very hard for that, and we will never withdraw from the NPT—just to make sure of what you may mean that way."

Bill Clinton - The President's News Conference With President Hosni Mubarak of Egypt
April 5th, 1995


President Obasanjo - "President has generally acknowledged that much has changed in the world since the end of the cold war. There's no doubt there is an emerging new world order, with new realities of nations and people throughout the world--their international outlooks, seek new friends and confirm old realities in the bid to find fresh places for global peace, harmony, and security.

In this imagined new world order, Mr. President, the rest of the world acknowledges that the United States of America will remain a key player politically, economically, and militarily. Thus we appreciate your visit to our continent as indication that Africa is to be reckoned with in the emerging world order. We salute your visit to so many African countries--four of them--and now Nigeria, in particular, as an expression that Africa should not be sidelined or even detached from the--of the emerging world order."

George W. Bush - Remarks Prior to Discussions With President Olusegun Obasanjo of Nigeria and an Exchange With Reporters in Abuja, Nigeria
July 12th, 2003
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