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Idea: Let's Write Our Own Drug Legislation
11-16-2006, 04:22 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-16-2006, 05:15 PM by kazz.)
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Idea: Let's Write Our Own Drug Legislation
Anyone want to put some ideas together and help draft a bill that we can send to progresive political parties and NGO's in Canada and the US like the Canadian Action Party or NORML or the Libratarian Party. I know many might think a venture like this is futile and a waste of time, but i think their is enough brain cells in this community to put together an A+ comprehensive economic/social study with accompaning proposed potential bullet points and at least a rough draft of a bill that could be put forward someday if real representatives of the Canadian and American people ever got into parliment/congress.

I've studied and been an overactive particpant of the drug culture since I was 12 and have witnessed all sides of it from being a homeless crack & meth addict, to partying with doctors & lawyers with neverending supplies. From being a life long friends of the sons & daughters of law enforcement officers and also being a former drug dealer myself, for survival at times and for extra cash at other times. From going on benders that would make Hunter S. Thompson raise an eyebrow, to being totally straight edge (which I am now... except for a little DMT from time to time) I have done many studies on hypothetical scenarios concerning what our countries would be like if drugs were legal for school since I was 14 from sociopolitcal and economic standpoints. I have come up with real solutions to filtering out the big three killers (opiates, crack/cocaine & methamphetamines) and methods of regulation for the rest of class A substances that doesn't end with life sentances and total prison system reform for that matter.

wanna give it a real shot? anyone interested in doing some braistorming?
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11-17-2006, 08:52 PM,
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Idea: Let's Write Our Own Drug Legislation
All they need to do is legalize it, and the illegal market will shrivel up and die. They don't legalize it, because the govts and criminal justice system make too much money from it. Where would all that money for black ops like 9/11 come from otherwise? How much revenue would the criminal justice system lose? Sorry to sound negative, but that's the way it is.
Don't believe anything they say.
And at the same time,
Don't believe that they say anything without a reason.
---Immanuel Kant
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11-17-2006, 09:15 PM,
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Idea: Let's Write Our Own Drug Legislation
Quote:All they need to do is legalize it, and the illegal market will shrivel up and die

Yeah good idea Valentine. All those illegal drug dealers will probably be really upset for a little while and then theyll all just go away and get respectable jobs.

Im sure they wont consider going into some other form of crime will they?
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11-17-2006, 10:36 PM,
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Idea: Let's Write Our Own Drug Legislation
theres no point

drugs are imported by the intelligence agencies to support and finance secret projects

any move to legalize would affect their income and they wont let that happen
regardless of the efforts and proof you offer about the benefits of your drug of choice
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11-18-2006, 01:00 AM,
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Idea: Let's Write Our Own Drug Legislation
What happened is that after the repeal of prohibition in USA, all the gangsters, buddy buddy with the right dudes in government, were kind of pissed. Well, then give us something, they said. Marijuana was an easy target. The main propaganda against it was that it was a drug used by black men to seduce white women (bullshit to start with, but do I need to mention that?). White america realized there could be no more greater threat. Let's face it, it was a justification for beating the shit out of every black man in clubbing distance (like they really needed one of those). And then we got the Marijuana Tax Stamp Act. You can grow as much mj as you like, have as much mj as you like, but you have to get a government stamp on it. To have it was illegal unless it had the stamp. But to take it in to get it stamped meant that it hadn't been stamped, so it was illegal and you're going to jail for having it. This is how we catch you. This makes perfect beaurocratic sense. Mobsters loved it: they still could get a profit from something illegal after prohibition above and beyond whores and gamling (not that there's anything wrong with either of those). Politicians loved it because the gangsters in their pockets were happy and would continue to pay. At least 40% of the "founding fathers" in america were hemp growers. That doesn't mean they smoked it. But the other 60% knew they were holding and came around from time to time. For whatever reason. By now, we have been so brainwashed by Nancy Reagan, the Mob, the DEA, D.A.R.E. programs and, let's face it, all around stupid, that there is no prayer for legalizing it, a perfectly beautiful plant. It makes paper at a rate of one half a rainforest tree per year - on a bad day (stop and think: tree, one). It makes clothes, rope (very cheaply, if it weren't "hip"). It provided the parchment for "The Declaration of Independence" (at the time, it wasn't even a fucking conern). It makes for damned good relaxed smoking. I have not heard a single argument against marijuana's prohibition that makes sense. People enjoy it. Better pass a fucking law. Okay, there are a couple: if you smoke it every day for forty years, you might be a little less potent and your immune system might be a little less effective (the memory-loss myth only applies if you're on it at the time, or at the time, at the - what? - the "gateway drug" bullshit I don't feel is even worth mentioning, except to say that if you're going to do drugs, marijuana's a probable start). These symptoms are coincidental to old age, only if you smoke it a lot, so don't do it (repeat that sentence after Thai-ing one on, twice - get it?). You shouldn't smoke it because in America it means that black men are having sex with white women, and we frown on that. It leads to hallucinations of supposed UFO abductions. Do you seriously think Betty and Barney Hill didn't have a bong in the house?
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11-18-2006, 01:06 AM,
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Idea: Let's Write Our Own Drug Legislation
Another thing (after my previous tyrade - don't bother to read it). Do you remember those commercials after 9/11 where someone buys a joint and the money ends up going back to fund a terrorist? Sure it was propagandist bullshit, but I doubt I was the only one to think: "That wouldn't happen if you legalized it."
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11-18-2006, 03:34 AM,
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Idea: Let's Write Our Own Drug Legislation
The trick would be to pass a constitutional amendment based on FREEDOM which covers this as a technicality. That way, politicians and everyone else can be seen as embracing freedom and not drugs. ;)
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11-23-2006, 10:56 AM,
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Idea: Let's Write Our Own Drug Legislation
I am fairly conservative but this war on drugs is just stupid. The fact that my tax dollars got funding this imaginary venture drives me nuts. I do not use drugs unless I am lucky enough to be prescribed some but I do know people who do. They are not criminals just lost. He is the best idea in the world.

IF WE ARE A FREE COUNTRY. (WHICH WE ARE NOT) THEN ALL DRUGS SHOULD BE LEGAL. PROVIDED THE USER IS NOT INFRINGING ON MY RIGHTS TO FREEDOM. SECONDLY THE US GOV'T SHOULD BEGIN MANUFACTURING THEM. THIS IS A CAPITALIST COUNTRY AND WE COULD RUN ALL THE OTHER DRUG CARTELS OUT OF BUSINESS.


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12-10-2006, 05:00 AM,
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Idea: Let's Write Our Own Drug Legislation
all these arguments are true, 'gateway drug' is a load of bullshit, ive been smoking pot and/or hasch for 4 years and i have never tryed any other drug and i dont plan on doing so unless im lying on my death bed and some1 stick cocaine in my nose. YES the mob is the 1 profiting from all the illigal drug business, but theyr not the only ones. how hard is it to find out how drugs are coming in the country? dont the US govt have satelites with live picturing now a days... im sure if they had no connection with the mobsters providing drugs or with the farmers who grow them in other countryes, they would stop each and evry one of them, wouldent they? of course ull tell me most of the pot is home grown, and id like someone to proove that, but then again how hard can it be to find a house who's electricity use is off the charts? the thing is they dont try because they get theyr own hidden taxes from these guys, dont they? now ull tell me 'oh theres always those bad cops in the force'... bad cops my ass, its not the cops' jobs to find a BOAT carrying cocaine, opium and/or whatever other drug there is... and its not a cop's job to find out wich house uses an unbelievable ammount of elecricity.. the cop's job is to follow orders and to stop those guys. but of course nobody wants them to be stoped. lets say they do get stoped one day and drugs COMPLETLY disapear from the country, this will cause the people to speak up and Demand for it to be legalized... wich no one wants to see happen for drugs. so right now the people are happy, the mob is happy, the government is happy, in conclusion they'll keep calling this stuff "illigal substances" possibly forever. 1 more thing, what about cocaine? is that stuff home grown too? and what about heroine? wich comes from i forgot wich plant.. can those plants be homegrown too?
all i hope for is that the province of Quebec legalised pot, wich is being talked about by alot of people these days.. but then again the US govt wouldent be too happy with that... so this'll be back to zero in no time... peaces of shits.
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12-21-2006, 01:14 AM,
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Idea: Let's Write Our Own Drug Legislation
Society gets socially conditioned to see people get carted off to jail and then, in some instances, paid $0.10 an hour to work for corporations. That is one points of the drug war as well.
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12-21-2006, 08:41 AM,
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Idea: Let's Write Our Own Drug Legislation
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Quote:All they need to do is legalize it, and the illegal market will shrivel up and die

Yeah good idea Valentine. All those illegal drug dealers will probably be really upset for a little while and then theyll all just go away and get respectable jobs.

Im sure they wont consider going into some other form of crime will they?

Well black market related crime certainly went down pertaining to your pictured drug of choice when they relegalized it, why would any other substance be different?
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