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Mayan Level Of Consciousness Knowledge
11-26-2006, 11:19 AM,
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Mayan Level Of Consciousness Knowledge
Tsoldrin, it's difficult to answer when I have to jump messages talking about criticism about Gospels and confusing that with the existence of a man 2000 years ago which is not the topic here. The illuminated guy does have crossed-wires in his schizophrenic mind and hence will type about anything and everything desperate to draw some attention to himself.
We were chatting about what? Ah yes, I remember. You were saying a change in seasons would've been seen through years. We have to remember we ignore our past history. We ignore why civilizations dissapeared probably due to some catastrophes in their respective areas. Look at Rapa Nui island like an isolated bellybutton far away from other lands and yet their scripture (rongo rongo) was exactly matching the one in India.
What's the record about WHEN did they have their seasons? Or the people who sank in Yonaguni islands? We have historical record even about the time when the moon was seen closer and the same time in one part of the world the Sun and Moon were seen as "still" for about a day, in the other part of the world the night remained like that for the same period of time. We know this account in Peru, Mexico, Bolivia, Israel, China. In the same account of Joshua in the Bible it also says huge stones fell from the sky and we can think about pieces of huge asteroid which altered axis of the planet even in historical times. We could also discuss the cartographic records with details of things discussed for centuries already. It seems the Mayan stone calendars, Peruvian and Egyptian even suggest different chronology in which the days were different and years as well. And I'm not just talking about 360 days converted into 365 days but something else.
The weather right now is changing too fast and seasons come when they shouldn't in several places. If we are gonna be destroyed, the next generation of survivors -if ever- would remember that account in the form of oral tradition or sculpting and carving odd statues in the highest places with a game of shadow and light to be seen at the proper time, the right day of the year. We would do so cos the stones are like the very bones of the earth and would probably remain longer like a memory for generations to come.
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11-27-2006, 10:54 PM,
#17
Mayan Level Of Consciousness Knowledge
How ironic that today's read is "Running the Amazon" by Joe Kane, a most amazing book about the only total exploration of the longest river in the world.

Half the book takes place in INCA territory -- about which there are many misunderstandings. For example Machu Pichu was not the last Inca city.

So it's important for Western Christians to not dismiss the topic of how Time is Measured in regards to the Millenium and Apocalypse and the origins of Christianity -- many are frankly scared about this research:

http://truthbeknown.com

The Origins of Christianity and
the Quest for the Historical Jesus Christ
by Acharya S

Introduction
Around the world over the centuries, much has been written about religion, its meaning, its relevance and contribution to humanity. In the West particularly, sizable tomes have been composed speculating upon the nature and historical background of the main character of Western religions, Jesus Christ. Many have tried to dig into the precious few clues as to Jesus's identity and come up with a biographical sketch that either bolsters faith or reveals a more human side of this godman to which we can all relate. Obviously, considering the time and energy spent on them, the subjects of Christianity and its legendary founder are very important to the Western mind and culture.

The Controversy
Despite all of this literature continuously being cranked out and the significance of the issue, in the public at large there is a serious lack of formal and broad education regarding religion and mythology, and most individuals are highly uninformed in this area. Concerning the issue of Christianity, for example, the majority of people are taught in most schools and churches that Jesus Christ was an actual historical figure and that the only controversy regarding him is that some people accept him as the Son of God and the Messiah, while others do not. However, whereas this is the raging debate most evident in this field today, it is not the most important. Shocking as it may seem to the general populace, the most enduring and profound controversy in this subject is whether or not a person named Jesus Christ ever really existed.

Although this debate may not be evident from publications readily found in popular bookstores1, when one examines this issue closely, one will find a tremendous volume of literature that demonstrates, logically and intelligently, time and again that Jesus Christ is a mythological character along the same lines as the Greek, Roman, Egyptian, Sumerian, Phoenician, Indian or other godmen, who are all presently accepted as myths rather than historical figures2. Delving deeply into this large body of work, one uncovers evidence that the Jesus character is based upon much older myths and heroes from around the globe. One discovers that this story is not, therefore, a historical representation of a Jewish rebel carpenter who had physical incarnation in the Levant 2,000 years ago. In other words, it has been demonstrated continually for centuries that this character, Jesus Christ, was invented and did not depict a real person who was either the "son of God" or was "evemeristically" made into a superhuman by enthusiastic followers3.

History and Positions of the Debate
This controversy has existed from the very beginning, and the writings of the "Church Fathers" themselves reveal that they were constantly forced by the pagan intelligentsia to defend what the non-Christians and other Christians ("heretics")4 alike saw as a preposterous and fabricated yarn with absolutely no evidence of it ever having taken place in history. As Rev. Robert Taylor says, "And from the apostolic age downwards, in a never interrupted succession, but never so strongly and emphatically as in the most primitive times, was the existence of Christ as a man most strenuously denied."5 Emperor Julian, who, coming after the reign of the fanatical and murderous "good Christian" Constantine, returned rights to pagan worshippers, stated, "If anyone should wish to know the truth with respect to you Christians, he will find your impiety to be made up partly of the Jewish audacity, and partly of the indifference and confusion of the Gentiles, and that you have put together not the best, but the worst characteristics of them both."6 According to these learned dissenters, the New Testament could rightly be called, "Gospel Fictions."7

A century ago, mythicist Albert Churchward said, "The canonical gospels can be shown to be a collection of sayings from the Egyptian Mythos and Eschatology."8 In Forgery in Christianity, Joseph Wheless states, "The gospels are all priestly forgeries over a century after their pretended dates."9 Those who concocted some of the hundreds of "alternative" gospels and epistles that were being kicked about during the first several centuries C.E. have even admitted that they had forged the documents.10 Forgery during the first centuries of the Church's existence was admittedly rampant, so common in fact that a new phrase was coined to describe it: "pious fraud."11 Such prevarication is confessed to repeatedly in the Catholic Encyclopedia.12 Some of the "great" church fathers, such as Eusebius13, were determined by their own peers to be unbelievable liars who regularly wrote their own fictions of what "the Lord" said and did during "his" alleged sojourn upon the earth.14

The Proof
The assertion that Jesus Christ is a myth can be proved not only through the works of dissenters and "pagans" who knew the truth - and who were viciously refuted or murdered for their battle against the Christian priests and "Church Fathers" fooling the masses with their fictions - but also through the very statements of the Christians themselves, who continuously disclose that they knew Jesus Christ was a myth founded upon more ancient deities located throughout the known ancient world. In fact, Pope Leo X, privy to the truth because of his high rank, made this curious declaration, "What profit has not that fable of Christ brought us!"15 (Emphasis added.) As Wheless says, "The proofs of my indictment are marvellously easy."

The Gnostics
From their own admissions, the early Christians were incessantly under criticism by scholars of great repute who were impugned as "heathens" by their Christian adversaries. This group included many Gnostics, who strenuously objected to the carnalization of their deity, as the Christians can be shown to have taken many of the characteristics of their god and godman from the Gnostics, meaning "Ones who know," a loose designation applied to members of a variety of esoteric schools and brotherhoods. The refutations of the Christians against the Gnostics reveal that the Christian godman was an insult to the Gnostics, who held that their god could never take human form.16

© 2006 Acharya S
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