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Jay-z, Is He In On It?
11-29-2006, 05:40 AM,
#16
Jay-z, Is He In On It?
I think Jay-Z started out good, but got progressively worse & fell off by the time he released the wav vol. 3 back in '99, & for the most part has sucked since then more or less.

Anyway here's a related article I've seen this topic posted a few different places whether Jay-Z & now Nas are freemasons & is this related to their unification after one of hip-hop's most famous beefs: http://community.allhiphop.com/showthread.php?t=268928
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11-29-2006, 05:41 AM,
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Jay-z, Is He In On It?
Quote:Is Jay-Z in on it?

Without going into the whole Race thing in relation to the NWO ill just say

NO Chance.

Jay-Z does help the people of Africa, or at least is shown by the media as doing so. Sway interviewed him recently & went w/him to Africa, I saw that on tv yesterday. Who knows man, I'm not so sure everyone whose down with the high level masons or the elite whatever necessarily know what's going on or think like we do

Here's Jay doing the roc thing in a very pyramid capstone like fashion: [Image: jay_z_freemason.gif]
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11-29-2006, 06:03 AM,
#18
Jay-z, Is He In On It?
You can see above how he does an exact triangle sign held up in a pyramid capstone-like way, but just on that album cover is the only time I've ever seen him do it like that. Most of the time it's actually just like the freemason logo:

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11-29-2006, 06:11 AM,
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Jay-z, Is He In On It?
I'm glad you said it first. I am extremely non-paranoid for someone who is so deep into conspiracies so when I get an eerie feeling about something, I generally dis-believe it and never speak of it until I come across enough proof.
However, In Jay-Z's case, I definately get that eerie feeling. The guy is one of a few moguls and multi-multi millionaires in the rap industry. And of them all probably the one with the least talent as a musician and definately as a business man. Yet he has climbed the ranks quite quickly. At least Puffy had been around for a while as an A&R rep bringing Jodeci, Mary J. Blige and Biggie to the forefront.
Just a couple of weeks ago he was on "The Ellen Degeneres Show" wearing a Skull & Cross Bones T-shirt. Also, when Damon Dash and him were still partners before their falling apart. Damon Dash used to go around to other rappers in the undustry trying to convince people that and I quote "The Matrix is Real!" My diangnosis on Jay-Z=Sell out to TPTB!
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11-29-2006, 06:34 AM,
#20
Jay-z, Is He In On It?
for the record...Jay-Z was a millionaire before he started rapping.
but he's deffinetely "in on it" when it comes to music and controlling what people hear and don't.
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11-29-2006, 06:40 AM,
#21
Jay-z, Is He In On It?
I don't know, you could be right, it's all so confusing though. I don't like finding out weird stuff like about these alliances that pertain to musicians I like. Like for example I used to be a pretty big Deadhead, recently I found out that some of the remaining living members have been attending Bohemian Grove every year for a while now. & that CIA/LSD stuff is confusing. I like Jay-Z's old stuff too & his new song Black Republicans w/Nas is pretty good. & I love Nas' shit. I guess the bottom line is if the music is good I'm gonna listen to it.

There's a ton in hip-hop criticizing the new world order though, espescially in 90's hip-hop but even today. That's how I first found out about this stuff actually.
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11-29-2006, 06:53 AM,
#22
Jay-z, Is He In On It?
im not a big fan of Jay-Z...i do like DJ Dangermouse's The Grey album tho...
only 2 songs tho..Public Service Announcement and Justify My Thug...

i don't like his new album. its just not my taste...the BEATS are cool...
i got nothing againts the beats....but the message Jay-Z often give's is a egotistical, bragging bullshit thats sooo common.

rarely do you hear a song with a positive message through and through from him.
"me" this or "me" that or "im the greatest" or "im god himself" have nothing to do with beliefs...its just stupid and nothing i would like to listen to.
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11-29-2006, 04:22 PM,
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Jay-z, Is He In On It?
Could Jay-z be in on it? It's a big possibility. Listen to this subliminal found in one of his songs

http://ebaumsworld.com/2006/11/jay-z-subliminal-message.html

He says "Six Six Six, murder murder Jesus". Now I don't believe in the whole satanic new world order thing anymore (I used to though) but with a subliminal like that you have to wonder what this guy is all about. Even if it is a big joke that's still some pretty fucked up shit to say. I don't trust the guy to be honest, that combined with the fact that his music is crap just makes me steer clear even more.
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11-29-2006, 04:37 PM,
#24
Jay-z, Is He In On It?
What song is that? i would like to test it for myself!
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11-29-2006, 04:40 PM,
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Jay-z, Is He In On It?
For the Record Jay-Z wasn't a millionaire before music. he was a pity dope dealer at best in Marcy Projects in Brooklyn. The story begins with Dame and Terrell Biggs relationship. Who grew up together, Dame with to boarding school, biggs became a big drug dealer. Dame teamed up with biggs, his old buddy, to put up several hundred thousands towards a music business venture. Bigg knew dame bread for NY style of business. Dame found Jay-Z (real name Shawn Carter, so how he get the name Jay-Z? He was under the tutorlage of rapper Jaz-O ) So with the money backing and some small success they started "Rocafella Records", under DefJam Records. Hard Knock Life put him on the map though. Somewhere in their he was became under Lyor Cohen's wing, DefJam CEO and a whole another story! Then somewhere in their all the occult shit begins. Lyor even starts going on tour with him. That can be seen in their own docu's. And soon begins his talking of separating for Dame, who was the businessman of the crew. Dame was the businessman, Jay-Z was the artist and Biggs was the Bank (thats why on every album all three names appear). Jay-Z was never in the business aspect of Rocafella. I was on pivy to their inner circle going ons several times, personally! Mostly with State Property (Beanie Sigel) and all meetings was with Dame never Jay-Z. That's what raise my suspisions! I know he's not a good businessman, that why on his new song "Lost One" he says, "Some say they made Hov, so make another Hov", they made him! It's not news if your in music industry circles. So what warrants Island records to hire him as CEO of hip-hop royalty DefJam Records?

Some write their not into his music, thats not the point. He controls the opinions of millions of people! And unless you've been with him during a public appearence, you wouldn't understand the reaction he gets from people. It's beyond belief! Uncontrollable crowd of thousands of people, I been with him in one of these situations. And I was scared to DEATH! The crowd was so packed several times I would defi you to lift your feet and you would not touch the ground, and thats no bullshit! Where you have trouble breathing because of the pressure. And he loved it! So much that when we finally got to the VIP section. This fool wanted to go back out there. The greed is there, the power is there, and thats what makes him a prime asset to the darkside, whomever you want to call them (zionist, nwo, etc).

j0osh, i haven't a clue what your talking about! Use any simple investigating and putting things together. You can't deny there's something there. He's not going to say "Hey, i'm in on it!" your not going to get a confession by any of them. But many have been implicated for doing much less. You hung up on defending the diablo sign. If you love doing it fine, we don't have to keep back and forth about. You can do them in your sleep. But as far as what I know about him, i've been around him personally, several times, in arm reach several times! I KNOW Dame is the businessman, I KNOW Jay-Z has a terrible record on aquiring good artist, the rest is simply putting the pieces together. YOu sound crazy!Who comes out and says their in on it?? People ask Led Zepplin are into the occult, they say no! Their music talks about the occult, you ask again, they say no! Jimmy Page known to totally obessed with Alister Crowley even buys his house, you ask again if he's into the occult, what do you that the answer is??? NO! The shit is simple! What are you talking about!!! Marilyn Manson preaches anti christian or anti god, do a ton of things related to satanism and even was ordained as a priest in the "church of satan" by Anton Levey, if you ask him does he worship satan what do you think he'll say????? He's a fucking "Priest" in the "Church of Satan"! Why do you need his comfirmation??????

Ahhhh, I need a beer!
One reason the war against racism (and sexism) cannot be won is that once a group is admitted to the club of &being white,& or being allowed, in the case of sexism, to use &the flawed white male model,& it already has learned all too well how to play the role of being superior to those still remaining outside those exclusive clubs. The real problem is that the illicit rewards, both tangible and intangible, in a racist and/or sexist society are so enormous that there is hardly any incentive to do otherwise.&
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11-29-2006, 04:59 PM,
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Jay-z, Is He In On It?
Quote:What song is that? i would like to test it for myself!
Track 11-Interlude on the Grey album
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11-29-2006, 05:06 PM,
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Jay-z, Is He In On It?
Good Looking out Grell!
One reason the war against racism (and sexism) cannot be won is that once a group is admitted to the club of &being white,& or being allowed, in the case of sexism, to use &the flawed white male model,& it already has learned all too well how to play the role of being superior to those still remaining outside those exclusive clubs. The real problem is that the illicit rewards, both tangible and intangible, in a racist and/or sexist society are so enormous that there is hardly any incentive to do otherwise.&
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11-29-2006, 05:08 PM,
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Jay-z, Is He In On It?
I got it off davidickeforum, gotta give credit where credit is due;)
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11-29-2006, 06:39 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-29-2006, 06:45 PM by winston smith.)
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Quote:The debate is still up as to just how Bob Marley developed his brain cancer (though the possbility of the intentionally-transmitted "cancer microbe" remains likely

Robert Nesta Marley died after a long fight
with a vicious cancer-type that started ... in his big-toe!!! .
I don't remember the exact medical term for this cancer-type
but I DO remember that it is a cancer-type that you DO NOT
see in "black" people. EVER .
but then Bob was half-"white"...
what DID they do in that Special Cancer Virus Program ?

edit : and James Marshall Hendrix had more than a gallon !! red-wine in his lungs
according to the coroners-report . that is simply IMPOSSIBLE unless "someone"
FORCED it there .
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11-30-2006, 12:01 AM, (This post was last modified: 11-30-2006, 12:19 AM by sunuvsamm.)
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Quote:
Quote:The debate is still up as to just how Bob Marley developed his brain cancer (though the possbility of the intentionally-transmitted "cancer microbe" remains likely

Robert Nesta Marley died after a long fight
with a vicious cancer-type that started ... in his big-toe!!! .
I don't remember the exact medical term for this cancer-type
but I DO remember that it is a cancer-type that you DO NOT
see in "black" people. EVER .
but then Bob was half-"white"...
what DID they do in that Special Cancer Virus Program ?

edit : and James Marshall Hendrix had more than a gallon !! red-wine in his lungs
according to the coroners-report . that is simply IMPOSSIBLE unless "someone"
FORCED it there .

I remembered hearing from someone (a few years ago now) that bob was visited by one of the bush boys when he was on hiatus in the mountains of jamaica...apparently the story goes that this son-of-a-bush posed as a rolling stone reporter in order to gain access to bob........i can't say i've heard or read this anywhere else but it seems pretty intriguing at the least....i don't wanna steer the direction of the thread but thought it was worth mentioning......and now back to regularly scheduled programming.....

EDIT:Okay...i found a couple links indicating there was a researcher by the name of john judge that claims to have documentation to prove marley was targetted by cia hitsquads.....and visited by neil bush after being shot at a concert in jamaica....end of marley discussion for the time being.
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