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Scientist Fights Church Effort To Hide Museum's Pre-human Fossils
12-06-2006, 05:41 PM,
Scientist Fights Church Effort To Hide Museum's Pre-human Fossils
Scientist Fights Church Effort to Hide Museum's Pre-Human Fossils

Kendrick Frazier | Skeptical Inquirer Sun Dec 3, 11:55 AM ET

Famed paleoanthropologist Richard Leakey is giving no quarter to powerful evangelical church leaders who are pressing Kenya's national museum to relegate to a back room its world-famous collection of hominid fossils showing the evolution of humans' early ancestors.

Leakey called the churches' plans "the most outrageous comments I have ever heard."

He told The Daily Telegraph (London): "The National Museums of Kenya should be extremely strong in presenting a very forceful case for the evolutionary theory of the origins of mankind. The collection it holds is one of Kenya's very few global claims to fame and it must be forthright in defending its right to be at the forefront of this branch of science." Leakey was for years director of the museum and of Kenya's entire museum system.

The museum's collections include the most complete skeleton yet found of Homo erectus, the 1.7-million-year-old Turkana Boy unearthed by Leakey's team in 1984 near Lake Turkana in northern Kenya.

The museum also holds bones from several specimens of Australopithecus anamensis, believed to be the first hominid to walk upright, four million years ago. Together the artifacts amount to the clearest record yet discovered of the origins of Homo sapiens.

Leaders of Kenya's Pentecostal congregation, with six million adherents, want the human fossils de-emphasized.

"The Christian community here is very uncomfortable that Leakey and his group want their theories presented as fact," said Bishop Bonifes Adoyo, head of the largest Pentecostal church in Kenya, the Christ is the Answer Ministries.

"Our doctrine is not that we evolved from apes, and we have grave concerns that the museum wants to enhance the prominence of something presented as fact which is just one theory," the bishop said.

Bishop Adoyo said all the country's churches would unite to force the museum to change its focus when it reopens after eighteen months of renovations in June 2007. "We will write to them, we will call them, we will make sure our people know about this, and we will see what we can do to make our voice known," he said.

It was these comments Leakey termed outrageous. Calling members of the Pentecostal church fundamentalists, Leakey added: "Their theories are far, far from the mainstream on this. They cannot be allowed to meddle with what is the world's leading collection of these types of fossils."

For its part, the museum sounded like it was trying to walk a tightrope. It said it was in a "tricky situation" in trying to redesign its exhibition space for all kinds of visitors.

"We have a responsibility to present all our artifacts in the best way that we can so that everyone who sees them can gain a full understanding of their significance," said Ali Chege, public relations manager for the National Museums of Kenya. "But things can get tricky when you have religious beliefs on one side, and intellectuals, scientists, or researchers on the other, saying the opposite."

This article first appeared in Skeptical Inquirer magazine.

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Not the I believe in either the evolution or creation theories but it is interesting to see the evil church and its minions still trying to hide shit so they can keep their lies hidden and the sheep believing.


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12-06-2006, 10:25 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-06-2006, 10:26 PM by blighter.)
Scientist Fights Church Effort To Hide Museum's Pre-human Fossils
The dark ages are a coming back!! (j/k)
12-07-2006, 04:34 PM,
Scientist Fights Church Effort To Hide Museum's Pre-human Fossils
Quote:Not the I believe in either the evolution or creation theories
Sorry there is no other "solid" theory of how life appeared and "evolved" (or you think of soul evolution, reincarnation etc that have no scientific base?) but evolution and creation (i think only creation since the alternative to creation is not evolution but ignorance!)
Quote:but it is interesting to see the evil church and its minions
I agree the church is evil and has a lot of evil minions!
Quote:still trying to hide shit so they can keep their lies hidden and the sheep believing.
Lies? what lies? post some arguments for your claims!

But anyway i to think its stupid to have the expos relegated to a back room since then evolutionists will say (exactly what nonevolutionist waxzy said) that we had a lot of proofs that monkeyz evolved into man but the "evil church and its minions" hide them to "keep their lies hidden and the sheep believing"
Well NO! i think those frauds should remain there so that everyone can see how stupid evolutionists are in believing that those are "links"!

Quote:The most famous of the Homo erectus specimens found in Africa is the fossil of "Narikotome Homo erectus ," or the "Turkana Boy," which was found near Lake Turkana in Kenya. It is confirmed that the fossil was that of a 12-year-old boy, who would have been 1.83 meters tall in adolescence. The upright skeletal structure of the fossil is no different from that of modern man. The American paleoanthropologist Alan Walker said that he doubted that "the average pathologist could tell the difference between the fossil skeleton and that of a modern human." Concerning the skull, Walker wrote that he laughed when he saw it because "it looked so much like a Neanderthal

Walker is an evolutionist and thinks turkana boy is stupid and as creationists show neanderthal man was ...a man! a modern (very inteligent) man!

Quote:A new theory states that the genus Australopithecus is not the root of the human race… The results arrived at by the only woman authorized to examine St W573 are different from the normal theories regarding mankind's ancestors: this destroys the hominid family tree. Large primates, considered the ancestors of man, have been removed from the equation of this family tree… Australopithecus and Homo (human) species do not appear on the same branch. Man's direct ancestors are still waiting to be discovered
Isabelle Bourdial, "Adieu Lucy," Science et Vie, May 1999, no. 980, pp. 52-62.

Isabelle Bourdial is also an evolutionist still waiting for "links" to be discovered but she thinks that Australopithecus is stupid!
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12-07-2006, 06:23 PM,
Scientist Fights Church Effort To Hide Museum's Pre-human Fossils
Quetzalcoatl, surely one belief against another deserves a bit more respect and less hostility?

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