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Who Is The New World Order?
12-15-2006, 04:45 AM,
#31
Who Is The New World Order?
Quote:After several years of research I have come to the conclusion that I still don't know exactly who the "new world order" is.


Well for one, the NWO is not the whole shabang as fa as my research goes. The New World Order is an english spelling. This a clue for us all. The US is not the only one trying to "unite" the world.

We have bilderberg, we have the trilateral commision. Also Carlyle group. These are major knots in business and government. These people are not elected but selected and dont answer to anyone. This is one US/EU example.....

Tricky question to ask anyone.
Can you please define the differences between Uniting the world as one and taking it over?
Ask your parents, teachers, friends and neighbours. You dont get alot of feedback:)

This is the crux of it folks.

There are people out there in the world who wish to be able to go wherever they like and have the same cash with them and not be uncomfortable culturally or have to ask directions in a different language. Fair enough. However, The idea has been bastardized to such an extent in the present day we have people getting a warm fuzzy feeling about one world. Sing it folks "ONE WORLD.....YEAH..YEAH....WE CAN ALL LIVE IN PEACE....." etc.

This is the carrot dangled infront of us everyday untill we give into it. Im in the UK. I'd really like a good European Union. It would be awesome! i could just move house and live in the south of France or Italy or anywhere i damn well pleased. It would be similar to american but with more languages. Cool huh?

Please note i used the word "good" where i mentioned the EU. I want a good one before i enter it. Not the bullshit being thrown at us now. Its a joke. I want an EU just not this one!!

But one world? one economy? one currency? Only people in control of it would see that as a good idea.
What happens if you dont agree with the policies dictated by the world government? where do you defect? Where do you run? This in itself is enough to fight this action every step of the way. However In order to coax people into this we are fed hate and fear and morality minefields designed it seems, to keep us all busy while this goes on.

If you want names, write down your own for a start, how do you feel knowing that when the revolution comes YOU will be the one up against the wall. Can anyone spot the the paradox of saying "brothers, sisters come together to fight this evil man who would take over the world!"

We are all trying to get there in our own ways. Some people are more willing than others to speed this process up. I cant even state that any-one of the people we see as hate figures would have a hard time sitting down and chatting over a cup of tea with us.

think about it. The danger lies in seeing the evil in the other guys while ignoring your own. Its an old trick.

To say we have anyone in control of it all is folly. However they try, and they try.

Targeting the source of the infection seems like the right thing to do but you waste time killing someone who will be dead in 20 years. If a you are immune to a virus it can live in the body without harming it.
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12-15-2006, 08:01 AM, (This post was last modified: 12-15-2006, 08:04 AM by tsoldrin.)
#32
Who Is The New World Order?
I actually think there are several groups vieing for supremacy. I doubt it matters which you fight, because each believes in their own outlook from their own point of view, but from ours the results will be the same; freedomless slavery. I think also that the various groups think they are doing what they are doing for the 'greater good'. Further, I think many groups are being used, unbeknownst to them, by other groups and while thinking they themselves are supreme are actually just minor players in the grand scheme of things and oftentimes are filling more or less a scapegoat role.

On specifics, I don't have much, beyond the real power brokers are not being exposed by armchair investigators and are almost certainly hidden even to those who think that THEY THEMSELVES are the REAL power brokers. I have some ideas about some of the players and one rather new one is likely a conglomeration of security/information/spy agencies of several countries (information really is power), while another is certainly ancient (going back to the pyramids perhaps?) and predates what we term technology. There is also those who control money. This last is a lens which we can use to view other possible contenders through. Obviously, if you can print your own money, you are above such petty endeavors as taxation or drug, arms and human trafficking.

Basically, it's all tiers... who's at the top tier? If we actually knew, they would be a lot less powerful than they seem to be, in fact, they would be less powerful than some of the medium level tiers appear to be. Thus, there is little need to concentrate on the top dogs, we can attack them without knowing them, simply by attacking the system itself. Everytime you do something outside the system, or better yet, don't do something within the system, you fight it. When enough people fight the system, it will collapse. Even ants can take down a large creature, when working in unison.
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12-15-2006, 10:39 AM,
#33
Who Is The New World Order?
Quote:After several years of research I have come to the conclusion that I still don't know exactly who the "new world order" is.

Since you'd done yr research, you can fill the gaps and discard the bollocks of egyptian sumarian reptilian gods.

Please read this history.

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History of the Origin of Masonry

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Salem Kirban quotes Weishaupt gloating over his successes in a letter to Illuminatus Cato:

The most admirable thing of all is that great Protestant and reformed theologians [Lutherans and Calvinists] who belong to our Order really believe they see in it the true and genuine mind of the Christian religion. Oh man, what can not you be brought to believe?

These people swell our numbers and fill our treasury; get busy and make these people nibble at our bait.. .but do not tell them our secrets. They must be made to believe that the low degree that they have reached is the highest
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12-15-2006, 11:02 AM,
#34
Who Is The New World Order?
Quote:The NWO is a plan. Those involved are very patient and the fact that we know of the existence will force them into the public eye. We have uncovered so much info in the past 20 years

As i see it, God or oneness let these forces work. Because in their own pride they planned and executed the malicious schemes which also resulted into the progress /evolution of humanity.

They have been doing it for 2000 years. But when the claws of this evil became international, so to balance, it was necessary to expose it so that ppl can have ease in making choices. This is a natural law.

In past 50 yrs or so, these fanatics started to control human mind through manipulation of human pscychology and with the aid of technology. So, it was necessary to balance it with more exposure.

Now, these schemes are getting too close to ultimate chaos/end so naturally, the knowledge about them, is also being disclosed on a much larger scale.
Salem Kirban quotes Weishaupt gloating over his successes in a letter to Illuminatus Cato:

The most admirable thing of all is that great Protestant and reformed theologians [Lutherans and Calvinists] who belong to our Order really believe they see in it the true and genuine mind of the Christian religion. Oh man, what can not you be brought to believe?

These people swell our numbers and fill our treasury; get busy and make these people nibble at our bait.. .but do not tell them our secrets. They must be made to believe that the low degree that they have reached is the highest
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12-15-2006, 11:08 AM,
#35
Who Is The New World Order?
Exactly what THEY want you to believe is that this is all the devils work and if you just sit back an think of God, all will be well. Don't fall into this trap. If God exists, She would want you to fight against this evil with all your might. Believer or Non-Believer, you owe it to future generations to make sure they are not slaves.
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12-15-2006, 11:29 AM,
#36
Who Is The New World Order?
Quote:would want you to fight against this evil with all your might. Believer or Non-Believer, you owe it to future generations to make sure they are not slaves.
Well Said.
Salem Kirban quotes Weishaupt gloating over his successes in a letter to Illuminatus Cato:

The most admirable thing of all is that great Protestant and reformed theologians [Lutherans and Calvinists] who belong to our Order really believe they see in it the true and genuine mind of the Christian religion. Oh man, what can not you be brought to believe?

These people swell our numbers and fill our treasury; get busy and make these people nibble at our bait.. .but do not tell them our secrets. They must be made to believe that the low degree that they have reached is the highest
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12-15-2006, 07:11 PM,
#37
Who Is The New World Order?
Information and names are important yes so that we can work. I also think spirituality is important so that we can replace this world with a better one, this makes our work more effective.
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12-16-2006, 01:00 AM,
#38
Who Is The New World Order?
the first priest said to the first king, "hey lets pull a scam on the people. introduce ownership and shame and ideology and war." the kings sez "right on, and lets make sure to keep this in the family, ok?" "it's a deal sez the priest. and fromt then on they concocted their occult hierarch of control and oppression. till now. when we end it.
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12-16-2006, 07:56 AM,
#39
Who Is The New World Order?
Quote:A very wise female M.D. from India, who I had the great honor to work with, once said to me you know that love is the dominant force in the world or people would ALL be killing each other. The world is held in balance by love.

That to me is a world order.

If there is an organized force seeking to alter this universal principle, I would call that force Satan.

I like the concepts put forth in the movie Nightwatch, to me this is what the struggle is about.

SerialExplain won't seem to explain to me what she meant. Can anyone else explain to me what she meant? Since I seem to be the only one that's stupid and can't understand it, lol.
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12-16-2006, 11:38 AM, (This post was last modified: 12-16-2006, 11:50 AM by shZ.)
#40
Who Is The New World Order?
Quote:After several years of research I have come to the conclusion that I still don't know exactly who the "new world order" is.

Is it a group of interlinking secret societies and or political entities such as the CFR, RIIA, etc, all working together?

Is it the international banksters who have ever so craftily worked behind the scenes to create it?

Is it the masons?

Is it the Zionists?

Is it the Catholic/Jesuits?

Is it criminal elements of the government?

Is it a crime-ocracy of evil people who think they have good intentions, all working together to rob us before they fulfill their utopian agenda?

Is it the Illuminati (whatever the hell that is)?

Or is it to organized, to confusing, such a deep tangled web that the who's cannot be defined?

I mean what do you say it is and I would really like to hear from eveyone, especially from those who have connected the dots. Maybe this could be a group effort to come up with a conclusion on who it actually is. It may be right in front of me, but with all this information I guess I have my blinders on. Too much to sift through narrow it down to who.

I just feel like I have to know because no one really seems to entirely make this connection and I hear some hosts alter the "who's" from week to week.

Thanks!

All of the above. Think more in terms of the mafia; a bunch of different mob bosses each with their own place and purpose. The real Don is too well hidden from even high ranking members so it's very unlikely we'll be able to identify him/her/it. Organized crime always has competition and rivalry, but the various underling bosses also know their place and when not to go too far. They didn't climb up to their respective level in the hierarchy due to a lack of understanding of when to not step out of line and go against the higher agena everyone's participating in and serving. But one think you must keep in mind is that all the shadow organizations (secret societies and affiliated individuals/groups) are all heavily involved in dark mysticism and 'esoteric' arts. It's a hard concept for most people to grasp since they've never really been exposed to black magic and probably don't even think it's real. I know I didn't until I had personal experience with it. That's when I finally had to acknowledge the existance of supernatural and metaphysical forces that I couldn't expalin via rationalism, the naturally atheistic axiom that has limited thought in the modern age. So at the end of the day, the driving force behind the New World Order and their ultimate master is Satan himself. You're a theist, so you should understand what I'm talking about. And for those of you who're not, think of Satan as a personification of the epitome of evil that inspires and motivates these wicked men. Hopefully that helped 'connecting the dots' a little better. That's the level of understanding I've reached thus far.

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12-16-2006, 07:37 PM,
#41
Who Is The New World Order?
No matter how one perceives the new world order, if you are all honest with yourselves then you should see yourselves as part of it. I\'m not joking with you... We all pay taxes, we all buy shit we dont need, we all contribute to the system which the elite use to advance their agenda.

Thing is, what difference does it make on knowing who the elite is? They aren\'t the root of the problem. We are the problem. We empower the elite and not ourselves.
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12-17-2006, 02:07 PM,
#42
Who Is The New World Order?
Quote:No matter how one perceives the new world order, if you are all honest with yourselves then you should see yourselves as part of it. I\'m not joking with you... We all pay taxes, we all buy shit we dont need, we all contribute to the system which the elite use to advance their agenda.

Thing is, what difference does it make on knowing who the elite is? They aren\'t the root of the problem. We are the problem. We empower the elite and not ourselves.

No I disagree, they are the root of the problem we are the extended indirect branch of it, attached primarily by necessity. I understand your thinking but I think you're going a bit far there.
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12-17-2006, 02:17 PM,
#43
Who Is The New World Order?
Quote:
Quote:After several years of research I have come to the conclusion that I still don't know exactly who the "new world order" is.

Is it a group of interlinking secret societies and or political entities such as the CFR, RIIA, etc, all working together?

Is it the international banksters who have ever so craftily worked behind the scenes to create it?

Is it the masons?

Is it the Zionists?

Is it the Catholic/Jesuits?

Is it criminal elements of the government?

Is it a crime-ocracy of evil people who think they have good intentions, all working together to rob us before they fulfill their utopian agenda?

Is it the Illuminati (whatever the hell that is)?

Or is it to organized, to confusing, such a deep tangled web that the who's cannot be defined?

I mean what do you say it is and I would really like to hear from eveyone, especially from those who have connected the dots. Maybe this could be a group effort to come up with a conclusion on who it actually is. It may be right in front of me, but with all this information I guess I have my blinders on. Too much to sift through narrow it down to who.

I just feel like I have to know because no one really seems to entirely make this connection and I hear some hosts alter the "who's" from week to week.

Thanks!

All of the above. Think more in terms of the mafia; a bunch of different mob bosses each with their own place and purpose. The real Don is too well hidden from even high ranking members so it's very unlikely we'll be able to identify him/her/it. Organized crime always has competition and rivalry, but the various underling bosses also know their place and when not to go too far. They didn't climb up to their respective level in the hierarchy due to a lack of understanding of when to not step out of line and go against the higher agena everyone's participating in and serving. But one think you must keep in mind is that all the shadow organizations (secret societies and affiliated individuals/groups) are all heavily involved in dark mysticism and 'esoteric' arts. It's a hard concept for most people to grasp since they've never really been exposed to black magic and probably don't even think it's real. I know I didn't until I had personal experience with it. That's when I finally had to acknowledge the existance of supernatural and metaphysical forces that I couldn't expalin via rationalism, the naturally atheistic axiom that has limited thought in the modern age. So at the end of the day, the driving force behind the New World Order and their ultimate master is Satan himself. You're a theist, so you should understand what I'm talking about. And for those of you who're not, think of Satan as a personification of the epitome of evil that inspires and motivates these wicked men. Hopefully that helped 'connecting the dots' a little better. That's the level of understanding I've reached thus far.

"The greaters trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he doesn't exist."

Could you explain to me more about black magic & your personality experience with it that convinced you of it's existence if you don't mind?
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12-17-2006, 04:25 PM,
#44
Who Is The New World Order?
Quote:No I disagree, they are the root of the problem we are the extended indirect branch of it, attached primarily by necessity. I understand your thinking but I think youre going a bit far there.
The elite only abuse the system. The system is sustained by us, not them. We are the ignorant and willing masses that continue this illusion.

I personally think its going too far by saying the devil/satan is the cause, but I prefer to blame something more tangible.. like ourselves
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12-17-2006, 06:53 PM,
#45
Who Is The New World Order?
Quote:
Quote:After several years of research I have come to the conclusion that I still don't know exactly who the "new world order" is.

Is it a group of interlinking secret societies and or political entities such as the CFR, RIIA, etc, all working together?

Is it the international banksters who have ever so craftily worked behind the scenes to create it?

Is it the masons?

Is it the Zionists?

Is it the Catholic/Jesuits?

Is it criminal elements of the government?

Is it a crime-ocracy of evil people who think they have good intentions, all working together to rob us before they fulfill their utopian agenda?

Is it the Illuminati (whatever the hell that is)?

Or is it to organized, to confusing, such a deep tangled web that the who's cannot be defined?

I mean what do you say it is and I would really like to hear from eveyone, especially from those who have connected the dots. Maybe this could be a group effort to come up with a conclusion on who it actually is. It may be right in front of me, but with all this information I guess I have my blinders on. Too much to sift through narrow it down to who.

I just feel like I have to know because no one really seems to entirely make this connection and I hear some hosts alter the "who's" from week to week.

Thanks!

All of the above. Think more in terms of the mafia; a bunch of different mob bosses each with their own place and purpose. The real Don is too well hidden from even high ranking members so it's very unlikely we'll be able to identify him/her/it. Organized crime always has competition and rivalry, but the various underling bosses also know their place and when not to go too far. They didn't climb up to their respective level in the hierarchy due to a lack of understanding of when to not step out of line and go against the higher agena everyone's participating in and serving. But one think you must keep in mind is that all the shadow organizations (secret societies and affiliated individuals/groups) are all heavily involved in dark mysticism and 'esoteric' arts. It's a hard concept for most people to grasp since they've never really been exposed to black magic and probably don't even think it's real. I know I didn't until I had personal experience with it. That's when I finally had to acknowledge the existance of supernatural and metaphysical forces that I couldn't expalin via rationalism, the naturally atheistic axiom that has limited thought in the modern age. So at the end of the day, the driving force behind the New World Order and their ultimate master is Satan himself. You're a theist, so you should understand what I'm talking about. And for those of you who're not, think of Satan as a personification of the epitome of evil that inspires and motivates these wicked men. Hopefully that helped 'connecting the dots' a little better. That's the level of understanding I've reached thus far.

"The greaters trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he doesn't exist."

I suspect, for me, this is about as good an answer as I could expect.

There are those with the vision and those who want to get rich off of it. Those with the vision are the very one's who are making it happen within the aforementioned groups while the other splinter groups of useful elite idiots just want a piece of the pie. Most of the elitists behind the globalist agenda are control freaks and it's about power and protecting their prescious assets, bloodlines and way of life. I think that's the bottom line. They obviously don't give a damn about the masses, in the end it's all about preserving their arses, power and greed by using/manipulating/brainwashing the masses. The other set of criminals are as I said just the useful idiots.

They're all reprobate, hardened heart criminals, but each group serves it's purpose to fulfill what I believe is Biblical prophecy, being used by Satan himself.
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