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U.s. To Declassify Secrets At Age 25
12-23-2006, 06:38 AM,
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U.s. To Declassify Secrets At Age 25
From the New York Times:

Quote:By SCOTT SHANE
Published: December 21, 2006

WASHINGTON, Dec. 20 — It will be a Cinderella moment for the band of researchers who study the hidden history of American government.

At midnight on Dec. 31, hundreds of millions of pages of secret documents will be instantly declassified, including many F.B.I. cold war files on investigations of people suspected of being Communist sympathizers. After years of extensions sought by federal agencies behaving like college students facing a term paper, the end of 2006 means the government’s first automatic declassification of records.

Secret documents 25 years old or older will lose their classified status without so much as the stroke of a pen, unless agencies have sought exemptions on the ground that the material remains secret.

Historians say the deadline, created in the Clinton administration but enforced, to the surprise of some scholars, by the secrecy-prone Bush administration, has had huge effects on public access, despite the large numbers of intelligence documents that have been exempted.

And every year from now on, millions of additional documents will be automatically declassified as they reach the 25-year limit, reversing the traditional practice of releasing just what scholars request.

Many historians had expected President Bush to scrap the deadline. His administration has overseen the reclassification of many historical files and restricted access to presidential papers of past administrations, as well as contemporary records.

Practical considerations, including a growing backlog of records at the National Archives, mean that it could take months before the declassified papers are ready for researchers.

“Deadlines clarify the mind,” said Thomas S. Blanton, director of the private National Security Archive at George Washington University, which obtains and publishes historical government documents.

Despite what he called a disappointing volume of exemptions, Mr. Blanton said automatic declassification had “given advocates of freedom of information a real lever.”

Gearing up to review aging records to meet the deadline, agencies have declassified more than one billion pages, shedding light on the Cuban missile crisis, the Vietnam War and the network of Soviet agents in the American government.

Several hundred million pages will be declassified at midnight on Dec. 31, including 270 million pages at the Federal Bureau of Investigation, which has lagged most agencies in reviews.

J. William Leonard, who oversees declassification as head of the Information Security Oversight Office at the National Archives, said the threat that secret files might be made public without a security review had sent a useful chill through the bureaucracy.

“Unfortunately, you sometimes need a two-by-four to get agencies to pay attention,” Mr. Leonard said. “Automatic declassification was essentially that two-by-four.”

What surprises await in the documents is impossible to predict.

“It is going to take a generation for scholars to go through the material declassified under this process,” said Steven Aftergood, who runs a project on government secrecy for the Federation of American Scientists.

“It represents the classified history of a momentous period, the cold war,” Mr. Aftergood said. “Almost every current headline has an echo in the declassified past, whether it’s coping with nuclear weapons, understanding the Middle East or dictatorship and democracy in Latin America.”

Anna K. Nelson, a historian at American University, said she hoped that the files would shed light on the Central Intelligence Agency role in Iran and deepen the documentation of the Jimmy Carter years, in particular the Camp David accords.

“Americans need to know this history, and the history is in those documents,” Ms. Nelson said.

She said the National Archives staff was buried in a 400-million-page backlog that awaits processing and is not publicly available.

Also, a budget shortfall has cut back on evening and weekend access to the major research center of the archives, in College Park, Md.

“They can declassify the records, but the archives don’t have the staff to handle them,” Ms. Nelson said.

The first deadline was imposed in an executive order that President Bill Clinton signed in 1995, when officials realized that taxpayers were paying billions of dollars to protect a mountain of cold war documents.

The order gave agencies five years to declassify documents or show the need for continued secrecy.

When agencies protested that they could not meet the 2000 deadline, it was extended to 2003. Mr. Bush then granted another three-year extension, but put out the word that it was the last one, despite the new emphasis on security after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks and a new war in Iraq.

“The Bush administration could have said, ‘This is a Clinton thing,’ and abandoned it,” Mr. Aftergood, said. “To their credit, they did not.”

As an enforceable deadline loomed, the intelligence agencies that produce most secret material add workers to plow through files from World War II.

The C.I.A. has reviewed more than 100 million pages, released 30 million pages and created a database of documents, Crest, that is accessible from terminals at the National Archives. Although most of the documents are exempt, they can be requested under the Freedom of Information Act.

The National Security Agency, the eavesdropping and code-breaking agency, has released 35 million pages, including an extensive collection on the Gulf of Tonkin incident that led to the escalation of the Vietnam War. The agency plans a major release early next year on the Israeli attack on the Liberty, an American eavesdropping ship, in 1967.

The F.B.I., by contrast, negotiated an exemption from the 1995 executive order and concluded last year that the 2003 executive order ended its special status. It has rushed to review material, seeking exemption for 50 million pages on intelligence, counterintelligence and terrorism, but leaving 270 million pages to be automatically declassified now.

Among those files, said David M. Hardy, the bureau declassification chief, are those on investigations of Americans with suspected ties to the Communist Party. Reviewers will keep working on the exempt material to see what can be released, but it is a slow process, Mr. Hardy said.

“The numbers of documents are staggering,” Mr. Hardy said.

The bureau is studying digitizing documents and using computers to search for classified material. Some experts say mass declassification is not the smartest approach. L. Britt Snider, a former intelligence official who heads the Public Interest Declassification Board, which advises the White House, said most government records, even top-secret ones, were pretty boring.

“Rather than take this blunderbuss approach,” Mr. Snider said, “I’d like to see the agencies concentrate first on what’s interesting and what’s important.”


http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/21/washingt...amp;oref=slogin



So does anyone think anything good is going to come out of this? Personally, I don't think so, but I will still check out everything I can.
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12-23-2006, 06:46 AM,
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U.s. To Declassify Secrets At Age 25
It will give some people something to do at least:P

Still I'm guessing most of the pages will be black with a few lines of random crap showing.
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12-23-2006, 07:19 AM,
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U.s. To Declassify Secrets At Age 25
Quote:From the New York Times:

“It is going to take a generation for scholars to go through the material declassified under this process,” said Steven Aftergood, who runs a project on government secrecy for the Federation of American Scientists.

“It represents the classified history of a momentous period, the cold war,” Mr. Aftergood said. “Almost every current headline has an echo in the declassified past, whether it’s coping with nuclear weapons, understanding the Middle East or dictatorship and democracy in Latin America ... ”
Steven Aftergood publishes SECRECY NEWS at the Federation of American Scientists web site at this link.

The reporting is high quality and all the past issues are posted online.

SECRECY NEWS has had very interesting information on "black budget" projects and their stealth "below the radar" funding.

Quote:From the New York Times:

The National Security Agency, the eavesdropping and code-breaking agency, has released 35 million pages, including an extensive collection on the Gulf of Tonkin incident that led to the escalation of the Vietnam War. The agency plans a major release early next year on the Israeli attack on the Liberty, an American eavesdropping ship, in 1967.
The "major release" on the '67 Liberty incident could be intriguing, to say the least.

Would the Administration "neo-cons" attempt to pre-empt this "major release"?
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12-23-2006, 11:35 AM,
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U.s. To Declassify Secrets At Age 25
Quote:Still I'm guessing most of the pages will be black with a few lines of random crap showing.


Like usual... it's like a beautiful cake, with shit inside.
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12-23-2006, 12:53 PM,
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U.s. To Declassify Secrets At Age 25
Let's see what they say about the USS Liberty
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12-23-2006, 02:50 PM,
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U.s. To Declassify Secrets At Age 25
Yeh it just seems to be a gesture, they release them earlier to shut up most basic folk, but black out more. Quite pointless. The law should have blacking out made illegal, so we can sue for damages done to the people by the goverment.
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03-22-2007, 07:06 PM,
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U.s. To Declassify Secrets At Age 25
Anyone know of any updates on this? Anything come out online yet or do you have to file a FOIA request?
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03-22-2007, 08:33 PM,
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U.s. To Declassify Secrets At Age 25
National Security Archive is as good a place as any to keep up to date on declassified documents and the evasion tactics used by govt. depts.

i posted a topic called File Not Found in the politics forum on this, to quote:

Quote:
AGENCIES VIOLATE LAW ON ONLINE INFORMATION


Only One in Five Federal Agencies Meets Congress's Requirements 10 Years After Electronic Freedom of Information Amendments

"E-Delinquents" Include Air Force and Immigration/Customs; Education and NASA Rank as "E-Stars" with Excellent Web Sites

Knight Open Government Survey by National Security Archive Covers 149 Federal Offices, Concludes "File Not Found"
Vitam Impendere Vero
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03-23-2007, 05:19 AM,
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U.s. To Declassify Secrets At Age 25
What about that deal the detective (Rambam, Privacy is dead) on the tracker was talking about? how the Government is giving private companies (like Infousa.com) their documents so it's not covered under the freedom of info act.
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03-23-2007, 08:14 AM,
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U.s. To Declassify Secrets At Age 25
"Secret documents 25 years old or older will lose their classified status without so much as the stroke of a pen, unless agencies have sought exemptions on the ground that the material remains secret."

Yeah. Read that real close.
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03-23-2007, 09:52 AM,
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U.s. To Declassify Secrets At Age 25
Nah. Plausible Deniability will always be in effect. So yeah, nothing to look forward to here :bored:.
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03-23-2007, 11:02 PM,
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U.s. To Declassify Secrets At Age 25
still, it is good news. T.S. docs normally declassified automatically after 50 or 80 years. old men would be dead before they could be brought up on charges >_<

this is good news, but i agree that we probably won't see anything too great come of it. we're already too far gone, lol. by now it doesn't matter if we know what really happened 25 years ago.

also, if marial law were coming then why would it matter. they could declassify hundreds of millions of documents and then no one would go read them because shit's about to get real complicated for most folks.

i have a theory that americans and mexicans are planned for equalization soon. americans are too rich and mexicans are too poor and right now they're creating more poor americans and more money for mexicans and we are being equalized. soon we will be totally mixed. new york might becaume the epicenter of the NAU, it would make perfect sense.

anyways i do remember hearing about these declassifications back in the winter too from some place else but i have no recent news on it. maybe the documents are there and they don't wanna tell anybody now =)
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