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Uk Report Says Robots Will Have Rights
01-09-2007, 04:34 PM,
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Uk Report Says Robots Will Have Rights
UK report says robots will have rights

By Salamander Davoudi in London
Published: December 19 2006 22:01 | Last updated: December 19 2006 22:01

Quote:The next time you beat your keyboard in frustration, think of a day when it may be able to sue you for assault. Within 50 years we might even find ourselves standing next to the next generation of vacuum cleaners in the voting booth.

Far from being extracts from the extreme end of science fiction, the idea that we may one day give sentient machines the kind of rights traditionally reserved for humans is raised in a British government-commissioned report which claims to be an extensive look into the future.

Visions of the status of robots around 2056 have emerged from one of 270 forward-looking papers sponsored by Sir David King, the UK government’s chief scientist. The paper covering robots’ rights was written by a UK partnership of Outsights, the management consultancy, and Ipsos Mori, the opinion research organisation.

“If we make conscious robots they would want to have rights and they probably should,” said Henrik Christensen, director of the Centre of Robotics and Intelligent Machines at the Georgia Institute of Technology.

The idea will not surprise science fiction aficionados. It was widely explored by Dr Isaac Asimov, one of the foremost science fiction writers of the 20th century. He wrote of a society where robots were fully integrated and essential in day-to-day life.

In his system, the ‘three laws of robotics’ governed machine life. They decreed that robots could not injure humans, must obey orders and protect their own existence – in that order.

Robots and machines are now classed as inanimate objects without rights or duties but if artificial intelligence becomes ubiquitous, the report argues, there may be calls for humans’ rights to be extended to them.

It is also logical that such rights are meted out with citizens’ duties, including voting, paying tax and compulsory military service.

Mr Christensen said: “Would it be acceptable to kick a robotic dog even though we shouldn’t kick a normal one?

“There will be people who can’t distinguish that so we need to have ethical rules to make sure we as humans interact with robots in an ethical manner so we do not move our boundaries of what is acceptable.”

The Horizon Scan report argues that if ‘correctly managed’, this new world of robots’ rights could lead to increased labour output and greater prosperity.

“If granted full rights, states will be obligated to provide full social benefits to them including income support, housing and possibly robo-healthcare to fix the machines over time,” it says.

But it points out that the process has casualties and the first one may be the environment, especially in the areas of energy and waste.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/5ae9b434-8f8e-11db...00779e2340.html
I'm lumping together various information concerning law (the illusion of control through words) here: http://honesty.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=59
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01-09-2007, 07:53 PM,
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Uk Report Says Robots Will Have Rights
*bangs keyboard violently*
I have a feeling if robots (AI) are invented, there will be a number of racial events and comments.
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01-09-2007, 07:54 PM, (This post was last modified: 01-09-2007, 07:56 PM by ki~.)
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Uk Report Says Robots Will Have Rights
*bangs keyboard violently*
I have a feeling if robots (AI) are invented, there will be a number of racial dispute.

Sorry, I pressed the stop button and I guess it already was submitted for the second post because the first one sounded cheesy. :/
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01-09-2007, 08:35 PM,
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Uk Report Says Robots Will Have Rights
Quote:*bangs keyboard violently*
I have a feeling if robots (AI) are invented, there will be a number of racial dispute.

Sorry, I pressed the stop button and I guess it already was submitted for the second post because the first one sounded cheesy. :/


haha, no probs....

I've just thought.... I wonder if vacuum cleaners will file for sexual assults.

One thing which is worrying yet interesting on the whole AI subject. While its reported that the average IQ is dropping, (whether due to dumming down etc.... I can only speculate), the AI is rapidly increasing. I wonder if you could have robots with a greater intellect than a human in the future. There wouldn't be any use for human labour then.
I'm lumping together various information concerning law (the illusion of control through words) here: http://honesty.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=59
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01-10-2007, 02:54 AM,
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Uk Report Says Robots Will Have Rights
So I can't fuck my robo-maid in her robo-ass?
Do you really think your a higher form of life? You...With your dripping jaws, and your bloodshot eyes. You...With your varicosities and your vermin for an appendix. You...with your hemroids and assterioids. Often I wake up at night and ponder these matters. And then I feel very strongly that I should talk them over with Brother Theodore...and then, and then I wake up fully and remember that I am Brother Theodore. And my heart aches. And my tears flow. And I see my Aunt Marie floating in the chicken soup...more dead than alive...more naked than not. And oh, now I see a mailman, a mailman giving birth to a dog of all things!

Never a moments peace, never a moments peace...never a moments peace.
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01-10-2007, 09:31 PM,
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Uk Report Says Robots Will Have Rights
Quote:
Quote:*bangs keyboard violently*
I have a feeling if robots (AI) are invented, there will be a number of racial dispute.

Sorry, I pressed the stop button and I guess it already was submitted for the second post because the first one sounded cheesy. :/


haha, no probs....

I've just thought.... I wonder if vacuum cleaners will file for sexual assults.

One thing which is worrying yet interesting on the whole AI subject. While its reported that the average IQ is dropping, (whether due to dumming down etc.... I can only speculate), the AI is rapidly increasing. I wonder if you could have robots with a greater intellect than a human in the future. There wouldn't be any use for human labour then.
Well robots could probally think faster than humans O_O
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01-20-2007, 06:31 PM,
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Uk Report Says Robots Will Have Rights
hmmm IRobot anyone?
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01-21-2007, 12:53 AM,
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Uk Report Says Robots Will Have Rights
How about "The Matrix"?

Specifically, in the "Animatrix", "The Second Renaissance" parts 1 & 2.
That's what I keep thinking about with humanity and it's arrogance and disdain for that which is different.
“Today’s scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after
equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality. ” -Nikola Tesla

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace." -Jimi Hendrix
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01-25-2007, 08:44 PM,
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Uk Report Says Robots Will Have Rights
The notion of granting robots rights when viewed from a real world standpoint is, of course, absurd. However, from the standpoint of the legal/commercial Matrix which runs this planet it's just a logical progression of what we already do.

While I doubt robots can or will have true rights in the sense humans do, why not confer on them "civil rights", i.e. priviledges and immunities, just like we do for non-physical artificial entities such as corporations? They are both tools, created to serve their creator. If one were to disallow this, then one could make the argument that we must ignore the principles that form the underlying basis for treating artificial entities as we do, render null & void all the laws/statutes/codes these principles have been enacted into, and the subsequent court judgments based upon said laws/statutes/codes.

Either way, I think a civil suit brought by a computer, for example, can be as easily defeated as one brought by a corporation for the same reasons.
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