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Breaking: Putin Blasts U.s. For Its Use Of Force
02-10-2007, 04:18 PM,
Breaking: Putin Blasts U.s. For Its Use Of Force
Breaking: Putin blasts U.S. for its use of force

By DAVID RISING, Associated Press Writer, 10.2.07, 18 minutes ago

MUNICH, Germany - Russian President Vladimir Putin blasted the United States Saturday for the "almost uncontained" use of force in the world, and for encouraging other countries to acquire nuclear weapons.

In what his spokesman acknowledged were his harshest attacks on the U.S. since taking office in 2000, Putin also criticized U.S. plans for missile defense systems and NATO's expansion.

Putin told a security forum attracting top officials that "we are witnessing an almost uncontained hyper use of force in international relations" and that "one state, the United States, has overstepped its national borders in every way.

"This is very dangerous, nobody feels secure anymore because nobody can hide behind international law," Putin told the gathering.

Putin did not elaborate on specifics and did not mention the wars in Iraq or Afghanistan.

But he voiced concern about U.S. plans to build a missile defense system in eastern Europe — likely in Poland and the Czech Republic — and the expansion of NATO as possible challenges to Russia.

On the missile defense system, Putin said: "I don't want to accuse anyone of being aggressive" but suggested it would seriously change the balance of power and could provoke an unspecified response.

"That balance will be upset completely and one side will have a feeling of complete security and given a free hand in local, and probably in global, conflicts..." he said. "We need to respond to this."

Sen. Joseph Lieberman (news, bio, voting record), D-Conn., said the charge that the U.S. "aspired to get unipolar power or acted unilaterally is just not borne out by the facts."

"Even our involvement in Iraq, certainly Afghanistan, is pursuant to United Nations resolutions," Lieberman said at the conference. "So that was provocative and wrong."

Asked if he had any reaction to Putin's charges, Defense Secretary Robert Gates just shook his head and said no.

Putin's spokesman Dimitry Peskov said the Russian leader did not intend to be confrontational, but acknowledged it was his harshest criticism of the United States since he was elected in March 2000.

Putin also criticized NATO expansion.

"The process of NATO expansion has nothing to do with modernization of the alliance or with ensuring security in Europe," Putin said. "On the contrary, it is a serious factor provoking reduction of mutual trust."

Putin's comments to a weekend forum attended by 250 officials, including Iranian nuclear negotiator Ali Larijani, came after German Chancellor Angela Merkel said that the international community is determined to prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons.

Merkel said Tehran needed to accept demands made by the U.N. and the International Atomic Energy Agency.

"There is no way around this," Merkel said. "What we are talking about here is a very, very sensitive technology, and for that reason we need a high degree of transparency, which Iran has failed to provide, and if Iran does not do so then the alternative for Iran is to slip further into isolation."

Merkel, whose country holds the rotating European Union presidency, emphasized the international community's support for Israel and said there was a unified resolve to prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons.

"We are determined to prevent the threat posed by an Iranian military nuclear program," she said.

The annual Munich Conference on Security Policy, now in its 43rd year, is often used as an opportunity for officials to conduct diplomacy in an informal setting.

Some 3,500 police were on hand to provide tight security for the conference and kept the usual throng of demonstrators away. This year, several thousand protesters were expected, protest organizers said.

Heading in to the conference, Larijani, who is scheduled to speak on Sunday, said he planned to use the conference as an opportunity to talk about Iran's nuclear program. Those would be the first talks with Western officials since limited U.N. sanctions were imposed on the country in December, which fell short of harsher measures sought by the United States.

Larijani was expected to meet with German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier and Javier Solana, the EU's chief foreign policy envoy.

At the opening dinner on Friday, Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni urged international solidarity in putting pressure on Iran to prevent it from producing a nuclear weapon.

"It is a regime that mocks the Holocaust while threatening the world with a new one, while trying to develop a weapon to do so," she said. "Iran is a threat not only to Israel ... but to the world. The international community cannot show any hesitation ... Any hesitation on our part is being perceived as weakness."

The conference this year focuses on "Global Crises — Global Responsibilities," looking at NATO's changing role, the Middle East peace process, the West's relations with Russia and the fight against terrorism.

Merkel opened the conference telling the delegates that one of the major threats facing the world today is global warming, urging a combined effort to combat it.

"Global warming is one of the major medium- to long-term threats that could have a dramatic effect," Merkel said.

Gates, who planned to talk Sunday on trans-Atlantic relations, was expected to press allies for more troops and aid for a spring offensive in Afghanistan.

He delivered the message Friday to a NATO defense minister's meeting in Seville, Spain, but got a lukewarm response.

France and Germany are questioning the wisdom of sending more soldiers, while Spain, Italy and Turkey have also been wary of providing more troops.
02-10-2007, 05:19 PM,
Breaking: Putin Blasts U.s. For Its Use Of Force
Have they even proved Iran is developing nuclear weapons? Last I heard, they were developing peaceful nuclear power. -.- I know the U.S.(ie. intelligence analysts) thinks that Iran is developing nuclear weapons, but I haven't seen any proof. Besides, even if they were developing nuclear weapons, shouldn't they have the right to? I mean look at the U.S., we've been developing them for over 50 years. What gives us the right and not them?
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02-10-2007, 06:00 PM,
Breaking: Putin Blasts U.s. For Its Use Of Force
Good cop bad cop at its best.
02-10-2007, 08:57 PM,
Breaking: Putin Blasts U.s. For Its Use Of Force
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02-12-2007, 11:46 PM,
Breaking: Putin Blasts U.s. For Its Use Of Force
Putin's full speech -;id=179&

A small segment -

"And this certainly has nothing in common with democracy. Because, as you know, democracy is the power of the majority in light of the interests and opinions of the minority.
Incidentally, Russia – we – are constantly being taught about democracy. But for some reason those who teach us do not want to learn themselves."
02-13-2007, 02:57 AM,
Breaking: Putin Blasts U.s. For Its Use Of Force
Quote:Putin's full speech -;id=179&

A small segment -

"And this certainly has nothing in common with democracy. Because, as you know, democracy is the power of the majority in light of the interests and opinions of the minority.
Incidentally, Russia – we – are constantly being taught about democracy. But for some reason those who teach us do not want to learn themselves."

That's because we are teaching them capitalistic imperialism. And its not so much teaching as forcing.
The belief in 'coincidence' is the prevalent superstition of the Age of Science.

&I don't understand why you're taking such a belligerant tone when you're obviously the ignorant one here. &
02-16-2007, 02:35 PM,
Breaking: Putin Blasts U.s. For Its Use Of Force
I was discussing this issue elsewhere...It is my opinion that Russia is one again regaining a strong postion and that along with china, we are seeing the demise of the unipolar superpower and the emegence of a multipolar world. however behind all of this is not the power of states, states are just the actors, those writing the play have no alligence to any state but to greed. I do however admire in totaly real poltik terms Putins game of political chess.

Here is my views on this anyhow , that i expressed a few days past.

Firstly i must admit my bias ( I hate The Czech Republic Police)

The Czech Republic , was once along with Russia part of the Soviet Union and therefore previous non ally of the US. ( people sometimes get confused and think that Russia was the soviet union, but it was infact a soviet and had its culture submersed along with other soviet states, actually it had less national representation that the others) During this time It along with eastern Germany was he cold war frontier, as the Soviet union collapsed, American influence was able to seep in.
Many In the Czech republik still identify Russia with the soviet union and the fact that Russia is returning to a structure of government with centralized democracy with the benefits of being able to be a significant actor in the capitalist society reminds the Czechs of the soviet era of their dominence which they associate with Russia and it is in someway understandable that they would seek not to ally themselves with Russia but with America and the west. Their inclusion into the European union and there wish to have the soviet state stigma removed is indicative of that ( though the police there still work in a way that is little changed from the communist era

Quote:The US administration said yesterday it was putting parts of its contentious missile defense shield in central Europe simply to protect its "friends and allies" in the region, brushing aside loud protests from Russia and denying that there would be any return to the cold war.,,2010930,00.html

Americas plan to host radar facilities in the ex soviet has been met with condemnation from Russia, this however has the Czech Republic, still raw from the soviet union era will not be dictated to by Russia , and not now when they think they have America as an alley. They do not however realise that America is not their their Friend and that where they are geographical positioned, they would do better to have Russia as a Friend than a foe in my opinion. Poland also has been involved in this and it appears that America is trying to gain dominance in the region through the new EU members from the soviet union.

Quote:Putin said deployment of a U.S. missile defense system in Central Europe could trigger a new spiral of the arms race.

The Russian leader told the 43rd Munich Conference on Security Policy that the reasons the U.S. cited in favor of deploying a missile defense system in Europe are not convincing enough, as launching North Korean ballistic missiles against the U.S. across western Europe would be in conflict with the laws of ballistics.

"This clearly contradicts ballistics laws. Or, as we say in Russia, it's the like trying to reach your left ear with your right hand," he said.

Putin also said the U.S. ignores the basic principles of international law and is striving to impose its own rules on other countries.

"We are seeing increasing disregard for the fundamental principles of international law," the Russian president said.

Washington has recently moved its largest sea-based missile defense radar in the Pacific from Hawaii to the Aleutian Islands, not far from Russia's Kamchatka Peninsula. It has also announced plans to install a radar system in the Czech Republic and a missile interception system in Poland, which it says it needs to protect itself against a potential threat from Iran.

Putin reiterated that Russia's response to U.S. plans will be asymmetric.

At an annual news conference at the beginning of February, Putin called Washington's justification of the missile shield unconvincing, and pledged to amend Russia's military strategy.

"All our responses will be asymmetric, but highly effective," the president said then

Quote:The Russian leader also said that despite all differences with the U.S., he believes U.S. President George Bush to be his friend.

"He is an honest person. I know that he is open to dialogue - and he is open to persuasion," Putin said.

He said Russia and the U.S. will never be enemies. Commenting on Bush's words that Russia and the U.S. will never be adversaries or enemies, the Russian president said: "I agree with him;articleId=4752

HA friends and honesty in poltics YEAH RIGHT

02-16-2007, 05:17 PM,
Breaking: Putin Blasts U.s. For Its Use Of Force
I think Lynne's right and I also think Russia has an ace up the Rodina's sleeve. While Russia maybe not the economic powerhouse that the USA is, the USA forgets that many of it's NATO allies are kept electrified and heated by Russia's state Gazprom.

If Russia closed the tap, Europe would be fuxxored.

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