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Zionism And Judiasm?
02-13-2007, 07:20 AM, (This post was last modified: 02-13-2007, 07:21 AM by lovelyk.)
#16
Zionism And Judiasm?
Quote:it is EVIL as fucking hell to coldly kill people for your own beliefs.
Agree!

Ordinary Jews has to accept the fact that there EXISTS a 'sect' within them. This sect has sick dreams and sickest goals.

This 'sect' is leading them away from true teachings and the best thing a jew can do to the rest of the humanity is to say NO whenever a choice is offered to them. Say NO to murder, chaos, cheating, dishonesty and DONOT join any secret societies. Say NO to TALMUD as well.

Many zionist 'christians' & 'muslims' are nothing but crypto-jewish. That was the only way known to zionist sickos to infiltrate and destroy others. This, still works.

Zionism and secret society networks only work for one goal. pharisee supermacy!!! All other slogans, labels, symbols are for mass consumtion.
Salem Kirban quotes Weishaupt gloating over his successes in a letter to Illuminatus Cato:

The most admirable thing of all is that great Protestant and reformed theologians [Lutherans and Calvinists] who belong to our Order really believe they see in it the true and genuine mind of the Christian religion. Oh man, what can not you be brought to believe?

These people swell our numbers and fill our treasury; get busy and make these people nibble at our bait.. .but do not tell them our secrets. They must be made to believe that the low degree that they have reached is the highest
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02-13-2007, 03:27 PM,
#17
Zionism And Judiasm?
Quote:
Quote:it is EVIL as fucking hell to coldly kill people for your own beliefs.
Agree!

This is overly simplistic.

Tens of thousands are killed every day by the march of global capitalism - you know, people just trying to eke out an existence. That was what Che was fighting against. And he was fighting directly with those supporting and maintaining this corrupt system, soldiers etc. - on the ground, not from the Oval office and not because someone else told him to do it and not with carpet or cluster bombing nor depleted uranium.

You can't make an omelette without breaking eggs, any more than you can vote your way out of global capitalism.



We're way off thread here - nothing to do with Zionism or Judaism, so expect we should leave this argument, or reopen it as a new topic.
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02-13-2007, 11:17 PM,
#18
Zionism And Judiasm?
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:it is EVIL as fucking hell to coldly kill people for your own beliefs.
Agree!

This is overly simplistic.

Tens of thousands are killed every day by the march of global capitalism - you know, people just trying to eke out an existence. That was what Che was fighting against. And he was fighting directly with those supporting and maintaining this corrupt system, soldiers etc. - on the ground, not from the Oval office and not because someone else told him to do it and not with carpet or cluster bombing nor depleted uranium.

You can't make an omelette without breaking eggs, any more than you can vote your way out of global capitalism.



We're way off thread here - nothing to do with Zionism or Judaism, so expect we should leave this argument, or reopen it as a new topic.


Not true, Ghandi did not need to break eggs to get his way. And just because some system is killing people does not mean that you need to kill people to fight the system. Well maybe you should change your Avatar or just admit that the Che is a fucking cold blooded killer? What good is voting your way out of global capitalism when socialism sucks the big dick too? The Che is a fucking idiot, his image is no better than say one of Andy Warhols Campbell soups. FUCK THE CHE!!!!
In the 60's, people took acid to make the world weird. Now the world is weird and people take Prozac to make it normal.

As a reputed atheist, the reverential nature of his film was surprising, but Pasolini himself said &If you know that I am an unbeliever, then you know me better than I do myself. I may be an unbeliever, but I am an unbeliever who has a nostalgia for a belief.&


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02-13-2007, 11:38 PM,
#19
Zionism And Judiasm?
Quote:Not true, Ghandi did not need to break eggs to get his way. And just because some system is killing people does not mean that you need to kill people to fight the system. Well maybe you should change your Avatar or just admit that the Che is a fucking cold blooded killer? What good is voting your way out of global capitalism when socialism sucks the big dick too? The Che is a fucking idiot, his image is no better than say one of Andy Warhols Campbell soups. FUCK THE CHE!!!!

....do some research on Ghandi

next you'll be praising mother theresa

PR is crazy
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02-14-2007, 12:43 AM,
#20
Zionism And Judiasm?
Quote:Not true, Ghandi did not need to break eggs to get his way. And just because some system is killing people does not mean that you need to kill people to fight the system. Well maybe you should change your Avatar or just admit that the Che is a fucking cold blooded killer? What good is voting your way out of global capitalism when socialism sucks the big dick too? The Che is a fucking idiot, his image is no better than say one of Andy Warhols Campbell soups. FUCK THE CHE!!!!

i already acknowledged that Che was a cold blooded killer - and that you can't vote your way out of capitalism (and i didn't offer any support for socialism).

Your problem appears to be with Che using violence to support his beliefs. Fine, i accept that, i wouldn't use violence to further mine either, i use him as a symbol (please see above). The ironic thing is, it is your language that is violent and aggressive, not mine.

Che was not an idiot, (naive perhaps, accepted) if you think that it can only be through ignorance - so please do some research (see above)

It's not your business what i use as my avatar, and i've spent too much time justifying it, so please get over it - there are more important things in life.
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02-14-2007, 08:03 PM,
#21
Zionism And Judiasm?
( Who Are The Zionist ? )

Firstly , The word Zionism . comes from the Aramic / Hebrew word Zion or Tsiyuwn . Which is a Mountain of Jerusalem . It is derived from The Root word Ziya , meaning '' To Parch , Barren , Drought Solitary Place , Wilderness '' Zion is also known in the scriptures as The City Of David ( 2Samuel 5 ; 5 - 6 ) .
And I Quote . NeverTheLess < Daw - weed > David the beloved < Law - kad>
Took the strong < Eer > city of < Daw - weed > David ' The beloved .


Zionists Today consist of Jebusites ( Descendants of Libana's ( Canaan ) Third Son . Jebus [ Father of the Jebusites ] And Khazars ( Descendant of Canaan's Fourth Son - Amor [ Father of The Amorites '' Mountain Dwellers ] . Who are The German Jews ( Jebusites of Canaan ) of today . Neither of them have the right to claim Palestine as their homeland . The home of The Sons of Libana ( Canaan ) was Elbrus . Which comes from The Ashuric / Syriac word Abras , meaning '' Leper '' . Thus , the term Abracadabra Is a mystical word used in Incantaions or as A Charm To Ward Off Disesae . It was originally said as Abras Cadaver , Used to mean The Bodies Of Lepers ( Refer To '' The Holy Tablets '' Chapter Three , El Mustawathee'ya , The Scientist , Tablets Three , The Trustworthy , Verse 157 - 158 And I Quote
Thus the term Abracadabra , a mystical word has used in incantations or as a charm to ward off disease , Originally said Abras Cadaver used to mean the '' bodies of lepers '' .

;...Notice the word Lep - Rosy . Which is short for Roses , and is symbolic of '' The War Of The Roses . '' Which is a war that occurred In Europe In The 1400's Between The House Of York And The House Of Lancaster , The House Of York Had Long Used A White Rose As Its Emblem . And The House Of Lancaster Became Identified With A Red Rose .The Wars Began In 1455 A.D. With The Battle Of Saint Albans . And Ended In 1485 A.D. With The Battle Of Bosworth Field .


Now , back to the point . Libana ( Canaan ) Took His Sister / Wife Salha
( Who Was A Sumerian Moor ) . And sought refuge in The Mountains , Where The Light Was Dim . Libana's ( Canaan's ) Descendants were The Caucasians ( Carcass - Asian , Meaning '' Deteriorating Asiatics '' ) For 309 Years . Canaan , Salha And Canaan's Other 3 Wifes , An Anaqite , A Horite , And A Halaabean Flugelrod And Their Children . Along with their companions , The Halaabean Fluglrods Dwelled In The Caves Practicing All Sorts Of Vile Acts , While No One Knew That They Even Existed .


( Libana ( Canaan ) Son Of Ham And Haliyma ) . When they first went into The Caves , They had Knowledge of The Divine Commandments Of The ( Anunnaqi / Aluhum ( Genesis 26 ;5 / Koran 18; 10 , 13 ) . As time passed . The descendant of Libana ( Canaan ) Lost Consciousness of themselves and began to live a Beastly Way Of Life . They became Savages and remained in The Caucasus Mountains Unti Abraham [ Ab - ( Heart ) - Ra ( Sun Deity ) - Ham
( Kemet Or Kham - For Blackness Or Majecty ) ] ( Heart Of The Majesty Of Re ) Came Up Into The Mountian . ( Haliyma , mother of Libana / Canaan / Salha , sister / wife of Libana / Canaan / Jebus , son of Libana / Canaan and Shingarah / Amor , son of Libana / Canaan and Hitarah / Shingarh wife of Libana / Canaan / Hitarah , wife of Libana / Canaan ) ;...Jerusalem Was Originally Given To The Tribes Of Benjamin and Judah As An Inheritance But . The Jebusites Had Migrated There With Abraham [ Ab - ( Heart ) - Ra ( Sun Deity ) - Ham ( Kemet Or Kham - For Blackness Or Majecty ) ] ( Heart Of The Majesty Of Re ). And Some Of Them Were Converted To Islaam . The Tribe Of Judah Was Unable To Push Out These Cursed Descendants Of Libana / Canaan .

They Disregarded The Divine Commandments Of The Most High , Which Stated Not To Mix Their Seed With The Cursed Seed Of Libana / Canaan And Cohabited With Them Genesis 24 ; 3
Consequently They Received The Wrath Of The Most Hight .
Joshua 15 ;63 And I Quote . As for the < Yeb - oo - see > Jebusites '' Desolate '' The 3rd son of canaan and the 4th son of Ham who received the curse of Albinism Leprosy , The < Yaw - shab > Those who remain dwellers of < Yer -oo -shaw - lah - im > Jerusalem , The < Bane > Sons of < Yeh - hoo - daw > Judah < Yaw - kole > could not < Yaw - Rash > Dispossess them out ; But the
< Yeb - oo - see > Jebusites < Yaw- shab > Dwell remain with the < Bane > Sons of < Yeh - hoo - daw > Judah At < Yer - oo - shaw - lah ' - im > Jerusalem to < Zeh > This < Yome > Day .


As for The Jebusites '' Desolate '' The Dweller Of Jerusalem , Sons Of Judah Could Not Dispossess Them Out ; But The Jebusites Dwell With The Sons Of Judah At Jerusalem To This Day . ''
When The Israelites Re - Entered With David , They Destroyed The Jebusites
1Chronicles 11 ; 4 - 7 ;... They were savage pagans who worshippen all kinds of idols before converting to the Relifion of Abraham [ Ab - ( Heart ) - Ra ( Sun Deity ) - Ham ( Kemet Or Kham - For Blackness Or Majecty ) ] ( Heart Of The Majesty Of Re ). Still they picked and chose what laws they would follow
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02-14-2007, 08:05 PM,
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Zionism And Judiasm?
( Who Are The Zionist ? ParTwo )


The Khazar Hired teacher learnt in The Scriptures from Mesopotamia and Tama -Re [ Egypt ] to teach their children The Torah and Talmud . They couldn't produce all the sounds of The Hebrew Language so they developed Yiddish . Yiddish is a mixture of Hebrew and German and The So - called Jews
( Jebusites ) of Austria , Poland , Germany , And Israel Are Descendants Of Khazar . For Those Of You Who Need Confirmation From The Evil One . I Have Provided The Following Excerpts . Zionism was founded in the 19th century by a man name Moses Hess ( 1812 - A.D. - 1875 A.D. ) . A Jebusite Rabbi And Theodor Herzl ( 1860 A.D. -1904 A.D. ) . A Journalist From Paris Moss Hess Founded The Hibbat Zion . Which Maintained More Of The Religious Aspects Of Judaism Than That Of Zionism ( Also Known As The First Congress ) . Which Was More Political Moses Hess Was A German Socialist .

A Predecessor Of Moderm Zionism , And Father Of Zionist Socialism . He Was Born In Bonn . Germany . Both Groups Felt That In Order To Achieve Their Goal . Which Was To Gain A State ( Preferably Palestine ) . For The Jews ( Jebusites ) . They Would Have To Put Their Religous Aspects To The Side And Infiltrate Their Way Into Mainstream Society , Eventually Gaining World Wide Control In Both Social And Political Aspects . They Would Have To Appear As Normal And Sicial As The Rest Of The World , Instead Of Annihilating Themselves . So . You Have What Is Called The Reformed Jews .


In Revelation 13 ; 2 . It is talking about A Bear . The Bear Is Synbolic Of The Two '' Teddys '' . The First Of Which Was Theodor Herzl ( 1860 A.D. - 1904 Who Was The Founder Of Political Zionism And The Zionist Movement To Establish A Jewish Homeland . He Took The Task Of Leading Back The So-called Persecuted Jewish Masses Of The World To Palestine . The Root Of The Name Theodore Is The Greek Thehos . For '' The '' Or The Middle English '' Theos '' Which Translate To Be '' God '' This Explains Why He Thought He Could Accomplish Such A Mission .


Revelation 12 ; 2 , And I Q uote , And the < Thay - ree - on > Beast < Hos > Which I < I - do > Saw Was < Hom - oy - os > Like To A < Par - Dal - Is > Leopard and his < Pooce > Feet were as the < Pooce > Feet Of A < Ark - Tos
Bear and his < Stom A > Mouth as the < Stom a > Mouth Of A < Len - on > Lion ; And The < Drak - Own > Dragon < Did - O - Mee > Gave Him His
< Doo - Nam - Is > Power . And His < Thes - sal - on - ee - kay > Seat . And
< Meg - As > Great < Ex - oo - see - ah > Authority .
And The Beast Who I ( Yowkhanan Bar Zebeedee ) Saw Resembled A Leopard And His Feet Resembled The Feet Of A Bear And His Mouth As The Mouth Of A Lion And The Dragon Gave Him Power And He Has Great Authority '' Herzl was born in Budapest , Hungary , On May 2 , 1860 A.D. to a well to do family . It was Hezl's belief that the world would never accept the Jew . As long as this Nanacceptance ( Anti - Semitism ) Exist . The Jew would never be able to Co - Exist Peacefully will people of other Cultures .
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02-14-2007, 08:06 PM,
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Zionism And Judiasm?
Who Are The Zionist ? ParThree.

He Considered the only Alternative would be to find and organize A state of their own . Althoiugh Herzl Died of a heart ailment at the age of 44 . Forty Years before establishment of The State Of Israel , It Was he who origanized The Political Force That Made It Possible For It To Become A Reality . Herzl Was Originally Buried In Vienna . But According to his wishes . His remains Were moved To Jerusalem In 1949 A.D. And Entombed On A Hill Now Known As Mt . Herzl .
The Bear Is Also Representative Of Theodore Roosevelt ( 1858 A,D, - 1919 A.D. ) . The 26th Of The United States . Theodore Roosevelt's Campaign For The Prsidency Was Successful Because He Was Backed By The Affirmation Of J.P.Morgan & Co . Of New York And Drexel & Co . Of Philadelphia Both Of These Companies Were Affilated With The House Of Rothschild And Were Companies Of The Illuminati Together Morgan And Drexel Controlled The Election And Roosevelt Became President In 1901 A.D.

He Was The First American President To Lead TheFight Against The Arabs . With TheDetermination To Prove Himself Right . He Had The U.S. Join Forces With Britain AndFrance Against Muslims For The Occupation Of Morocco .
Theodore Roosevelt was born in New York City On Octobers 27 . 1858 A.D. Of A Moderately Wealthy Family . He was known the world over as '' Teddy '' Because He Loved Bears . This Is Where The Term '' Teddy Bear '' Originated . As President Of The United States . Roosevelt Serve As Eventgul Term . He was known for his Impulsiveness and his penchant for '' Bullying '' Smaller . Helpless Nations .

It was while he was in office that The United States Acquired The Panama Canal Zone From Columbia In 1902 A.D. And Stated Construction Of The Canal In 1904 A.D. The Philippines Was Also Acquired By The United States Under Roosevelt's Supervision . Roosevelt Also Firmly Established Secert Agencies Such As The Federal Bureau Of Investigation ( F.B.I. ) And The Central Intelligence Agency ( C.I.A. ) . Although He Was In Favor Of An International Peacekeeping Organization . He Adamantly Opposed Woodrow Wilson's Proposal Of A League Of Nations ( The Predeccessor Of The United Nations ) . Theodore Roosevelt Died Suddenly In His Sleep On January 6 , 1919 A.D. The Second '' Bear '' Was A Representative Of Four - Star Army , General H . Norman Schwarzkopf . He Was Commander Of All The American And Allied Forces In Saudi Arabia .

He Was Referred To By The Nicknames '' The Bear '' Or Stormin Norman . But He Prefered Being Called The Bear '' . 1983 A.D. He Forsaw The Possiblity That The United States Might One Day Find HerSelf At '' War In The Middle East . If A So - Called Unfriendly Nation Succeeded In Taking Over A Neighbor . His Colleagues Insist That Norman Schwarzkopf Is This Generation's Mc Arthur . He Got The Tactical Brilliance Of George Smith Patton . The Strategic Insight Of Eisenhower And The Modesty Of General Omar Nelson Bradley . He Is Known To Have Such Temper Tantrums That When It Erupts . He Starts Yelling And Cursing And Throwing Things . A West Point Graduate And Old Friends Says That He Saw Himself As A Successor To Alexander The Great .

His Favorite Battles Were The Battle Of Cannae In Which Hannibal , An African - American , Son Of Hamilcar Barca . In 216 A.D. Crushed The Forces Of Rome . He's Always Had The Dream Of Leading His Country's Forces Into A Major Battle .
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02-15-2007, 07:43 AM,
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Zionism And Judiasm?
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Quote:Not true, Ghandi did not need to break eggs to get his way. And just because some system is killing people does not mean that you need to kill people to fight the system. Well maybe you should change your Avatar or just admit that the Che is a fucking cold blooded killer? What good is voting your way out of global capitalism when socialism sucks the big dick too? The Che is a fucking idiot, his image is no better than say one of Andy Warhols Campbell soups. FUCK THE CHE!!!!

....do some research on Ghandi

next you'll be praising mother theresa
PR is crazy

Shit! what about the PR the Che has? I think only Jimi Hendrix has more PR than the Che with his iconographic photo being sold ironically through out all socialistic and capitalistic countries. You got dumb multmillionaire nigger rappers like JAY Z and geniuses like Mike Tyson with tattoos of the Che. Even fucking haute couture.

heres a nice link

http://www.vam.ac.uk/resources/press_relea...2006/index.html




Che Guevara: Revolutionary and Icon
7 June - 28 August 2006

The famous portrait of Ernesto ‘Che’ Guevara, Guerrillero Heroico, photographed by Alberto Korda on 5 March 1960, is one of the most reproduced images in the history of photography. Che Guevara: Revolutionary and Icon will focus on the history of this single image during the past 45 years, bringing together photography, posters, films, fine art, clothing and artefacts from more than 30 countries - from Madonna's album American Life and Jean-Paul Gaultier's sunglasses campaign to Vik Muniz's Che Frijol and Ricky Gervais's Politics dvd.

The popular view of Guevara as young, handsome and charismatic, the revolutionary who died aged 39, inevitably contributes to the mystique surrounding Korda’s iconic photograph which captures his enigmatic gaze, an expression of both determination and desire. This image of ‘Che’ has come to symbolise anti-establishment thought and action as well as consumer chic. It has inspired art, fashion and culture for the past five decades and is recognisable in its most simplified form.

The exhibition, curated by Trisha Ziff, traces the photograph from its conception to its contemporary appearances; from heroic guerrilla leader and anti-establishment hero through to pop celebrity, radical chic, spoof and kitsch. Korda’s Che has moved into the world of caricature and parody at the same time as it is used as political commentary on issues such as world trade, anti-Americanism and Latin American identity.

The wide variety of works on show include art works by Pedro Meyer, Martin Parr and Annie Liebowitz; Larry Towell’s photograph of the image grafitti’d on a wall in Bethlehem; films, including clips of The Motorcycle Diaries; and other paraphernalia such as Russian matryoshka dolls, French wine, model cars, cigarette packets and stamps. Also on display will be artworks specific to the UK, such as images of Margaret Thatcher and a recent Christmas advertising campaign depicting the baby Jesus.


The portrait was taken on 5 March 1960 by Alberto Dìaz Guttièrez (1928-2001), known as Alberto Korda, a former fashion photographer who had become Fidel Castro’s personal photographer. Korda snapped two frames of Guevara as he briefly stepped forward onto the memorial service podium at a funeral for more than 100 Cubans killed during an explosion of an ammunition-filled, Belgian ship bound for Havana harbour. The photographer remembered being inspired by the intensity of Guevara’s expression, which he described as being encabronado y dolente (angry and pained). In the original frame, Guevara stands between another man and some palm fronds, but in the process of printing the photo Korda isolated Guevara - and thus was born the famous image.

What happened to the photograph from the moment it was taken, through to its current life as one of the most recognized images in popular culture, is a complex tale of conflicting accounts. Generally unknown until it was reproduced in Italy at the moment of Guevara’s death, the image subsequently burst onto the worldwide scene as an icon symbolizing the student uprisings of 1968. It appeared on posters, t-shirts, and murals and was used in numerous protests and demonstrations during the time that followed.

Korda’s ‘Che’ has since taken on a life of its own. The complex ideological beliefs of Guevara are often trumped by the generic revolutionary symbolism of his image, so that independent of the specifics of Guevara’s life and achievements, Guerrillero Heroico continues to appear - in Latin America, in the Middle East, and in Asia - as a well-known political symbol in the fight against tyranny and oppression.

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Notes to Editors

Che Guevara: Revolutionary and Icon opens at the V&A on Wednesday 7 June and runs until 28 August. For all PUBLIC enquiries please call 020 7942 2000. The V&A is open from 10.00 – 17.45 daily, except on Wednesdays and the last Friday of every month when it is open until 22.00.

Che Guevara: Revolutionary and Icon edited by Trisha Ziff (£19.99 pb) will be published by V&A Publications to accompany the exhibition.
In the 60's, people took acid to make the world weird. Now the world is weird and people take Prozac to make it normal.

As a reputed atheist, the reverential nature of his film was surprising, but Pasolini himself said &If you know that I am an unbeliever, then you know me better than I do myself. I may be an unbeliever, but I am an unbeliever who has a nostalgia for a belief.&


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