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The Uk & Conspiracies
02-19-2007, 04:32 PM, (This post was last modified: 02-19-2007, 04:36 PM by JohnDoe1984.)
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This is just an observation but we seem to have a lot of people from the UK on these boards. I was wondering if any of you consider the people in the UK more open to conspiracies than others? Just the contact I've had on this site has made me tend to think so. Maybe that's where the revolution need to start. The people in the US are too stupid and lazy. Before you jump on me, I'm a born and raised American.

Most Americans are a hard nut to crack. The hard shell is the support our troops patriotism that is ingrained in us from childhood. It's way worse now that we've been at war for years. Some people look at me like I'm some kind of traitor when they hear some of my opinions. The UK people don't seem to be like that. Maybe because most of them I've met have been on this forum.. :biggrin:
&We didn't have education. We had inspiration. If I was educated, I'd be a damn fool.&
-Bob Marley

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02-19-2007, 05:16 PM,
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don't be overly optimistic about the Brits - those you meet here are certainly not a true reflection. Sadly i doubt Brits are any better informed, or awake than your average Yank.

And they have the BBC whose sophistication at delivering disinformation and obscuration, while at the same time claiming legitimation is unsurpassed.

think you'll have to look further afield for seeds of revolution
Vitam Impendere Vero
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02-19-2007, 06:00 PM, (This post was last modified: 02-19-2007, 06:08 PM by drunkenmunky.)
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I'm currently studying at University in London. I have only met one other person who has looked into 9/11, but only briefly, and has seemed to have forgotten about what he saw (from the "conspiracy" side of it). Also, my flat mate is slightly open minded about the idea of a ruling elite, but thats about all.

In my experience, there tends to be a certain arrogance here in England, that either: The allies beat the "evil" Nazi's and hence the West are the good guys and could never do anything bad. Or that only America is in the conspiracy and not England/Britain. But thats more the mindset given to some by propaganda I think.

However, to me there seems to a be a deep down feeling by a few who look into the current politics that something is up, but no one wants to admit anything. Similar to the tension waiting for the first person to speak, before joining in.

Thanks to the EU, and maybe hooliganism. It seems politically incorrect to be English and Patriotic, where as you should be Patriotic if your Welsh, Scottish or Irish (some say this is done delibrately so that the EU can turn England into EU administations first, before moving on to the other British countries).

Re-reading the above I feel I haven't really been very clear. To be general, I would say that the majority of the populous of Britain, would rather watch Eastenders/Coronation Street and base their worldly knowledge on the biased media. The ones who can see the Government slowly clench its fist on everyone, try to fight it politcally and have too much faith in this bogus democracy, which to me clearly doesn't work because it's compromised at many levels. Fewer go further and link together past events with the present. And fewer still are openmined to any ideas of a NWO really materialising/existing, illegal technologies, altered history, and the enslavement of us serfs etc..etc...

I should note, my views on the world and what I think tend to change often, as I read and experience newer things each and everyday.

In comparison to something being done, I feel the UK wouldn't follow the USA as quickly in a revolution if the USA were the first. But that the USA would follow the UK sooner in comparison if there was a revolution in the UK first. This I base on what I find the sterotypical view of the USA is by the people in the UK.

I wouldn't say the people over here, are any more open minded than those in the USA. It seems though that there is more of a religious Christian element in the USA than over here in England. Which stops people looking into certain areas as it may compromise their faith, and I guess why would you need to look into certain areas if you believe certain things. (Please note, I bear no fault in anyones belief in religion, I don't know what you've experienced so I can't comment on right and wrong in that case).


There are a variety of British views of the current changing world at this forum, which you may want to read, http://www.ukipresources.co.uk/index2.php
I'm lumping together various information concerning law (the illusion of control through words) here: http://honesty.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=59
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02-19-2007, 06:29 PM,
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I've been working on my friends here for the past 3 or so years. One follows Chomsky, although he has stated that he would like a gun as the government has them- so obviously doesn't trust them, but he won't go any further.

My flatmate knows that there is something up, but won't go any further and I don't want to press him too hard as he lives with me.

Another friend is quite receptive but told me to my face that 'nobody cares' about what I have to say. Scary. He is doing something for 'charity' (WWF) soon and asked me to sponsor him- I replied with a quote from Prince Philip (president of the WWF) about him coming back as a virus after he dies to help the world's population problem, and that I won't give the WWF a penny. He replied with 'let's not go there' or something like that. Useful idiot, but telling him that wouldn't help. I'm donating some money to the PDSA which provides free vetenarian services instead. Despite it's founder marrying her cousin!

Others are quite happy to watch cartoons, play video games and not ask questions- they think of me as an eccentric for asking questions FFS.

So don't have too much hope, the typical Brit knows exactly how much so-and-so got transferred to Manchester United for, or who's just got kicked out of 'Big Brother' and it's uncool to wonder about why Afghan babies are born with one eye or their livers outside their bodies. C**ts.
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02-19-2007, 08:10 PM,
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Come on fuck the pessimism men,

Sooner or later there will be a watershed event that will wake alot more people up.

We brits are cynical bastards and I think we live in a worse state of big brother than anyone else. But come on, sooner or later we will fight, it is inevitable. When they come knockin on our door tryin to microchip our ass I think we will have a riot.

Remember the Poll Tax fiasco. Sooner or later people will respond. Its not a natural state they want for us. Lets be a little more optimistic, we can win this, i know we can.
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02-19-2007, 09:04 PM,
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Along the lines of The Uk & Conspiracies & the BBC, if anyone has bothered complaining to the beeb (it's commercial arm is the beeb, but it might as well all be for profit anyway), about last nights BBC Hit piece, then please consider complaining during the "BBC Trust" consultations. I noticed a link to it on the front page, it probably won't be there long, so if it get's missed, here is some blurb and the links to the relevant pages...

Quote:The BBC Trust wants your views
Tell us what's important to you about the BBC and help us decide the corporation's priorities.
Get involved in the consultation
Find out about The BBC Trust
Other BBC Trust consultations

I've had to slam the the door to two TV License inspectors, I won't debate an issue with the monkeys, only the organ grinders, please consider doing the same any UK residents who still give a shit...

I've just found it myself and will give it a read, but still give them my opinion, this is the internet age after all, and they're on there last legs if they don't get the citizens money/taxes from them.
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02-19-2007, 09:58 PM, (This post was last modified: 02-19-2007, 10:04 PM by TeslaandLyne.)
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BBC History Channel can interview me any time to find if
Lyne is telling the truth or not about his various theories.

Much better than the last 50 years of malarky.

Channel four in NYC is up for license renewal, hoping
its canceled and becomes a true history channel and toss in
some science to entertain all the imports and ones dug in
with nowhere to go.

Might as well tell them how they got there.
Investments in the nation going down, war on the other side
of the world instead of stopping it at home.

When is stopping or winning a war so difficult.
Is up to the commander in chief of the armed forces.

BBC Analyze This from Lyne via Tesla
And a little T&L mix.
Pump up the lies and the bashers.
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02-19-2007, 10:25 PM, (This post was last modified: 02-19-2007, 10:43 PM by JohnDoe1984.)
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I was under the impression that because of the surveilence everywhere, The EU, Guns being already taken away, and the whole 9/11, 7/7 BS. The average Brit was a little more informed than the average American. Europeans in general seem to be a lot more politically astute compared to the US, where many don't know who their congressmen are, or the difference between Iraq and Iran, and brag about it in country songs. Sounds like we're all in the same boat though.
&We didn't have education. We had inspiration. If I was educated, I'd be a damn fool.&
-Bob Marley

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02-20-2007, 12:26 AM,
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There aren't many hardcore conspiracy theorists in the UK, but I think there are a lot that have some of the lighter characteristics without knowing it. People seem to know about the lies, corruption, and that they're having bullshit new laws and taxes forced down their necks, but that's as far as it goes bar a few quite large protests. Not enough take it those few steps further to find out what's behind it all. So maybe Brits are more open to conspiracies in that way, because we're already a pretty cynical nation to begin with. Still feels pretty stagnant over here despite all that. Although apparently the vast majority believe that Diana was murdered, which is a pretty strange and large step!
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02-20-2007, 02:20 AM,
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The Uk is without doubt the most inpersonal society you will ever witness in your time on this planet. After social conditioning the only mantra that is left is "What about me" and damn the rest.

The Apathy that exists has been passed down from the IRA. London and to an extent Birmingham has been bombed so many times no one seems to give a fuck anymore, as long as it doesnt effect them.

British stiff upper lip my arse, its all about the self to the damnation of society.
I hate to break this to you but Tim Mcveigh is not still alive, Hitler was not a British Agent, Wallace Simpson was not a man, and DNA matching Skull and bones members was not found on Mars.
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02-20-2007, 05:15 AM,
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Quote:This is just an observation but we seem to have a lot of people from the UK on these boards. I was wondering if any of you consider the people in the UK more open to conspiracies than others? Just the contact I've had on this site has made me tend to think so. Maybe that's where the revolution need to start. The people in the US are too stupid and lazy. Before you jump on me, I'm a born and raised American.

Most Americans are a hard nut to crack. The hard shell is the support our troops patriotism that is ingrained in us from childhood. It's way worse now that we've been at war for years. Some people look at me like I'm some kind of traitor when they hear some of my opinions. The UK people don't seem to be like that. Maybe because most of them I've met have been on this forum.. :biggrin:


We got something going on that USA does not............

WE HAVE BEEN CONDITIONED OVER HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF YEARS TOO 'OBEY'

You guys can remember freedom, a 200 hundred yr old country is a baby & you guys are aware of what you are losing, the thick headed cunts here lost it long ago and dont know any different


History is written by the victors .............. hmmmmm British Empire ?? LoL

In poorer areas here more people are awake, the minute you enter more afluent zones people dont give a fuck bout you or any1 but themselves.............Sad but true.

The system has got most by the balls but some of us work hard to keep the info pumping out, especially to the younger teenagers who have some brain cells, they are the establishments targets for brainwashing and Im doing a serious job arming school kids with questions to ask there Teachers :cool:;)

Oh and its working :biggrin:
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02-20-2007, 10:35 PM,
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Yeah Mad, that sounds good, I think we could be quite productive aswell.

I live in Brighton so London isn't far away. We should get together and see if we could be a little more proactive in the real world I think.

Big things come from small steps I think so whos up for a conference then? ConCenUK thats our new name.

A convergence of friends and like minded individuals who are sick of watching screens and feeling helpless. Lets do something, we may make a difference. Together we're alot more powerful than apart. I know this much for sure.
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02-20-2007, 11:13 PM,
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Fancy that Druid, I'm in Brighton too- small world! I'd be very happy to meet like minded people for a change.
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02-20-2007, 11:22 PM,
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i used to live in London but it stressed me out - couldn't cope with the people, pace or pollution.

now i'm in Aberystwyth, the arse end of nowhere - so think it's unlikely i'd make it. i'd sure be interested in how it turned out though.
Vitam Impendere Vero
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02-20-2007, 11:30 PM,
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Quote:i used to live in London but it stressed me out - couldn't cope with the people, pace or pollution.

now i'm in Aberystwyth, the arse end of nowhere - so think it's unlikely i'd make it. i'd sure be interested in how it turned out though.

Same, I live up north and so wouldn't be able to make it. Shame really as it would be really great to meet up with some like minded people in the UK.

Let me know how it turns out anyway if you go ahead with it.
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