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Leo Zagami + Greg Szymanski Abuse "kitz"
02-28-2007, 10:35 PM, (This post was last modified: 02-28-2007, 10:36 PM by Rosebery.)
#31
Leo Zagami + Greg Szymanski Abuse "kitz"
:repost:- Moron!

Cheers
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03-01-2007, 03:24 AM,
#32
Leo Zagami + Greg Szymanski Abuse "kitz"
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:if that picture is a fake then it shouldnt be too hard to find another in the many hes posted.

did you see all the spelling mistakes in his "authentic" certificates of Initiation/Degree?
Maybe he has fixed them by now... :laugh:
Although curious this is not adequate proof of fraud though. The certificates were drafted by authors who were non-native to the English language. As such errors are prone to slip in, official documents or not. An honest and correct judgment requires a comparison of documents with or recognised members with the same signatories and drafters of the OTO documents at hand. For all I know, the OTO head honchos are wonderful in performing magick, conjuring up demons or Jinns and what not but suck at drafting pristinely written English documents. So if anyone has OTO membership documents of recognised members in order to compare them with Leo's then by all means please do step forward and present them here at this forum.

Though admittedly tempting as it may seem of and by itself spelling errors are not enough to claim and defend a case in fraud if they are featured as well on other OTO membership documents of which authenticity has been proven.

True enough, and I haven't seen any authentic OTO documents to know for sure, but my disbelif in Leo's authenticity stems mostly from intution, although there a few issues which help nudge me in that direction, logically speaking.
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03-01-2007, 09:01 AM, (This post was last modified: 03-01-2007, 09:05 AM by shZ.)
#33
Leo Zagami + Greg Szymanski Abuse "kitz"
I don't see how a pixilated pin inconsistent with the rest of the image proves or disproves anything regarding Leo's authenticity. I've seen way too many completely unfounded attacks on Leo in this forum before started by newly registers users. Now, keeping that in mind. I think there's many possibilites that could explain the anamoly in the image. First of all, is that a picutre from Leo's digital camera or is it something he received from some one else? In the latter case, anyone could plant that there for defaming and discrediting him later on. Secondly, hacking the server for Leo page, editing the original image, and then replacing it with the edited one isn't exactly hard to do eigther. Those are just a few possibilites off the top of my head. I'm sure you guys can think of others.

EDIT: I'm frankly getting tired of all these lame attacks on Leo, so I had to post the first thing that came to mind.
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03-01-2007, 09:41 AM,
#34
Leo Zagami + Greg Szymanski Abuse "kitz"
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:if that picture is a fake then it shouldnt be too hard to find another in the many hes posted.

did you see all the spelling mistakes in his "authentic" certificates of Initiation/Degree?
Maybe he has fixed them by now... :laugh:
Although curious this is not adequate proof of fraud though. The certificates were drafted by authors who were non-native to the English language. As such errors are prone to slip in, official documents or not. An honest and correct judgment requires a comparison of documents with or recognised members with the same signatories and drafters of the OTO documents at hand. For all I know, the OTO head honchos are wonderful in performing magick, conjuring up demons or Jinns and what not but suck at drafting pristinely written English documents. So if anyone has OTO membership documents of recognised members in order to compare them with Leo's then by all means please do step forward and present them here at this forum.

Though admittedly tempting as it may seem of and by itself spelling errors are not enough to claim and defend a case in fraud if they are featured as well on other OTO membership documents of which authenticity has been proven.

True enough, and I haven't seen any authentic OTO documents to know for sure, but my disbelif in Leo's authenticity stems mostly from intution, although there a few issues which help nudge me in that direction, logically speaking.
Would you care to share those few issues with us here then?
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03-01-2007, 09:45 AM,
#35
Leo Zagami + Greg Szymanski Abuse "kitz"
Quote:I don't see how a pixilated pin inconsistent with the rest of the image proves or disproves anything regarding Leo's authenticity. I've seen way too many completely unfounded attacks on Leo in this forum before started by newly registers users. Now, keeping that in mind. I think there's many possibilites that could explain the anamoly in the image. First of all, is that a picutre from Leo's digital camera or is it something he received from some one else? In the latter case, anyone could plant that there for defaming and discrediting him later on. Secondly, hacking the server for Leo page, editing the original image, and then replacing it with the edited one isn't exactly hard to do eigther. Those are just a few possibilites off the top of my head. I'm sure you guys can think of others.

EDIT: I'm frankly getting tired of all these lame attacks on Leo, so I had to post the first thing that came to mind.
Leo's first site was taken down and his files were given back to him not without a struggle. Maybe some tampering was done along the way. Who knows?

Excellent points ShZ. :praise:
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03-01-2007, 10:12 AM, (This post was last modified: 03-01-2007, 10:19 AM by shZ.)
#36
Leo Zagami + Greg Szymanski Abuse "kitz"
Quote:Leo's first site was taken down and his files were given back to him not without a struggle. Maybe some tampering was done along the way. Who knows?

That actually makes a lot of sense and is quite plausible. Confiscate property, plant false evidence, and then return it back to the original owner, except this scenario takes place in cyber space.

Quote:Excellent points ShZ. :praise:

Thanks, your expansion on it was pretty good too:grin:.
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03-01-2007, 10:17 AM,
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Leo Zagami + Greg Szymanski Abuse "kitz"
Quote:This has got to be the most stoned heroin addict post I have read on this forum LOL
LOL :biggrin:
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03-01-2007, 12:02 PM,
#38
Leo Zagami + Greg Szymanski Abuse "kitz"
As far as I know this picture is taken from Leo's current site although I must admit I have not taken the time to check.

If so, there are reasons to think that webfriend.it is part of the game and should be exposed immediately.

:wink:
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03-01-2007, 04:00 PM, (This post was last modified: 03-01-2007, 04:02 PM by deathstickboy.)
#39
Leo Zagami + Greg Szymanski Abuse "kitz"
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:if that picture is a fake then it shouldnt be too hard to find another in the many hes posted.

did you see all the spelling mistakes in his "authentic" certificates of Initiation/Degree?
Maybe he has fixed them by now... :laugh:
Although curious this is not adequate proof of fraud though. The certificates were drafted by authors who were non-native to the English language. As such errors are prone to slip in, official documents or not. An honest and correct judgment requires a comparison of documents with or recognised members with the same signatories and drafters of the OTO documents at hand. For all I know, the OTO head honchos are wonderful in performing magick, conjuring up demons or Jinns and what not but suck at drafting pristinely written English documents. So if anyone has OTO membership documents of recognised members in order to compare them with Leo's then by all means please do step forward and present them here at this forum.

Though admittedly tempting as it may seem of and by itself spelling errors are not enough to claim and defend a case in fraud if they are featured as well on other OTO membership documents of which authenticity has been proven.

True enough, and I haven't seen any authentic OTO documents to know for sure, but my disbelif in Leo's authenticity stems mostly from intution, although there a few issues which help nudge me in that direction, logically speaking.
Would you care to share those few issues with us here then?

I've stated them all in this section at some point, so I'm sure you've already read and rejected them....

One of the main ones is the idea of an "untouchable bloodline".

The Kennedy's were apparently descended from the Merovingian bloodline, and that didn't stop them from getting their brains splattered.
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03-01-2007, 04:23 PM, (This post was last modified: 03-01-2007, 04:26 PM by ephilution.)
#40
Leo Zagami + Greg Szymanski Abuse "kitz"
Quote:As far as I know this picture is taken from Leo's current site although I must admit I have not taken the time to check.

If so, there are reasons to think that webfriend.it is part of the game and should be exposed immediately.

:wink:
I can verify that the picture is indeed taken from Leo's current site. You can see for yourself the apparent anomaly of the rose-pin with any basic picture browser/viewer that comes with a built-in zoom function.

The list of suspects that could possibly tamper with Leo's files include:
squarespace.com
webfriend.it
"intelligence services"

I don't know either one of those to say which one would be the most likely suspect but since intelligence agencies seem to have unfettered access to emails and internet traffic in general, through eschelon, home-land security and what not, I tend to point the main (=middle) finger at them.
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03-01-2007, 04:25 PM,
#41
Leo Zagami + Greg Szymanski Abuse "kitz"
Quote:As far as I know this picture is taken from Leo's current site although I must admit I have not taken the time to check.

If so, there are reasons to think that webfriend.it is part of the game and should be exposed immediately.

:wink:

o my God the OTO is back..hi..hi.....regarding Nicholaj Frisvold the guy is an ignorant in english but a black magician and illuminati you can find mentioned all over the internet and a personal friend and "Brother" of 'Njegosh' aka John Faerseth secretary of the OTO in Oslo and suckers of Satan's co....k
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03-01-2007, 11:34 PM,
#42
Leo Zagami + Greg Szymanski Abuse "kitz"
Quote:o my God the OTO is back..hi..hi.....regarding Nicholaj Frisvold the guy is an ignorant in english but a black magician and illuminati you can find mentioned all over the internet and a personal friend and "Brother" of 'Njegosh' aka John Faerseth secretary of the OTO in Oslo and suckers of Satan's co....k
Leo my dear chap WTF has this post got to do with the subject of the thread? We aren't going to get away from this unless a) everyone gets bored and moves on orB)you come clean and tell us if the pin was photoshopped in after the pic was taken but otherwise the picture is genuine or c) you tell us that the whole pic is genuine. Either way you might just deal with Z-T's issues with it for good.

BTW Both I and Ephilution have asked you in this thread about the significance of the pin and once again, you've ignored us both thus far. :hurt:

It doesn't do much for your credibility (with me at least) if you won't cooperate a bit.

Cheers

PS Who IS the other guy?
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03-01-2007, 11:42 PM, (This post was last modified: 03-01-2007, 11:44 PM by Rosebery.)
#43
Leo Zagami + Greg Szymanski Abuse "kitz"
Quote:Leo's first site was taken down and his files were given back to him not without a struggle. Maybe some tampering was done along the way. Who knows?
But lets not forget that Leo's first site was closed down because he broke his "terms of service" agreement by refusing to remove "objectionable" material when cordially asked to do so after complaints had been received. I seem to recollect that they gave him his files back quite freely. Where was the struggle?

Posting this in the interests of balance you understand.

Cheers


(Edited for spelling)
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Please understand that the &Light at the End of the Tunnel& is most likely to be the 7.42 from Kings Cross coming in the opposite direction at Great Speed.
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03-02-2007, 12:05 AM,
#44
Leo Zagami + Greg Szymanski Abuse "kitz"
Quote:
Quote:Leo's first site was taken down and his files were given back to him not without a struggle. Maybe some tampering was done along the way. Who knows?
But lets not forget that Leo's first site was closed down because he broke his "terms of service" agreement by refusing to remove "objectionable" material when cordially asked to do so after complaints had been received. I seem to recollect that they gave him his files back quite freely. Where was the struggle?

Posting this in the interests of balance you understand.

Cheers


(Edited for spelling)
The closing of his first site was reason enough for Leo to start ringing some alarm bells. To this day I don't know if he retrieved all of his files from squarespace.com.

The whole hassle is more or less documented in this thread:
http://conspiracycentral.info/index.php?showtopic=4814

I do recall there being a delay in the transfer of the files from squarespace.com to either directly to Leo or webfriend.it.... Time enough to plant stuff I'd think. I also recall that Leo couldn't access his Yahoo account (to which his documents allegedly were sent from squarespace) for some time during the closing down event . Leo reported it consistently crashed when he tried to access it. That of and by itself to me seems reason enough to raise suspicion.
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03-02-2007, 12:24 AM,
#45
Leo Zagami + Greg Szymanski Abuse "kitz"
Quote:The closing of his first site was reason enough for Leo to start ringing some alarm bells. To this day I don't know if he retrieved all of his files from squarespace.com.

The whole hassle is more or less documented in this thread:
http://conspiracycentral.info/index.php?showtopic=4814

I do recall there being a delay in the transfer of the files from squarespace.com to either directly to Leo or webfriend.it.... Time enough to plant stuff I'd think. I also recall that Leo couldn't access his Yahoo account (to which his documents allegedly were sent from squarespace) for some time during the closing down event . Leo reported it consistently crashed when he tried to access it. That of and by itself to me seems reason enough to raise suspicion.

Yes you are right and I should have pointed at that thread in my post. However, Leo's reaction was verging a little on the histrionic IMHO. Anthony struck me (from his correspondence with you which you were kind enough to post) as being the last person who would want to get involved in "planting stuff". He just wanted rid of a problem which had created itself. It was Leo's own fault he got kicked off squarespace - that must be clear.

I have a great deal of difficulty in understanding how someone of Leo's intelligence would:

a) Upload all his stuff to a third party site without ensuring that he held original copies in a safe place totally under his control and;

B)Used anything but original data on the new site.

The supposition that it was tampered with is stretching credulity to the limits. Don't I remember it crashed because he either was using the wrong application to get into it or didn't know how to drive it?

In any event the answer will be provided if Leo answers my earlier questions concerning the wretched image as raised earlier.

Cheers
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Please understand that the &Light at the End of the Tunnel& is most likely to be the 7.42 from Kings Cross coming in the opposite direction at Great Speed.
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