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Alert: Liberty Dollar Sues The Us Mint
03-21-2007, 02:37 AM,
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Alert: Liberty Dollar Sues The Us Mint
This was a email I just got from Libertydollar.org

Quote:Your urgent assistance is requested:

On Tuesday, March 20, 2007 the Liberty Dollar filed suit against the U.S. Mint in U.S. District Court in Evansville Indiana. The organization asked the court to declare that the use of the Liberty Dollar is not a ‘federal crime,’ as claimed by the U.S. Mint. And the organization further asked the court to enter a permanent injunction against the U.S. Mint requiring it to remove any reference that the use of Liberty Dollars is a federal crime from its website.

Of course the US Mint allegation is not the law, in fact, it is a lie. The federal lawsuit Bernard von NotHaus individually and d/b/a Liberty Dollar v. Henry M. Paulson, Jr, Secretary of the Treasury, Alberto R. Gonzales, Attorney General of the United States, and Edmond C. Moy, Director, United States Mint can be viewed by clicking the link.

Trust me, this lawsuit is no small matter. Nor is the cost. Initially estimated at $100,000 – we simply have no idea what the actual total cost will be. But it is not cheap to sue the US government that makes their money out of thin air and pays their attorneys with your income tax dollars.

Please let me be blunt, honest and to the point: We need your help, please. For more info and to make a small donation to this important case, please click HERE.

I know not how you may decide but for me: Give me Liberty Dollars – or give me death. For it is only by banding together and adopting a free and independent currency which provides us with “just weights and measures” will we be able to throw off the yoke of a manipulated monetary/tax system and generate a peaceful and prosperous society.

Thank you again for all your efforts to return America to value – one dollar at a time!

Bernard von NotHaus
Monetary Architect
http://www.LibertyDollar.org
888.LIB.DOLLAR
888.421.6181
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03-21-2007, 05:21 AM,
#2
Alert: Liberty Dollar Sues The Us Mint
Is this guy stupid or what?
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03-24-2007, 12:46 AM,
#3
Alert: Liberty Dollar Sues The Us Mint
Quote:Is this guy stupid or what?

or what. He's a genius, actually.

I'm giving my $20 eLiberties back, for the cause.
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03-25-2007, 05:45 AM, (This post was last modified: 03-25-2007, 05:46 AM by Moriani.)
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Alert: Liberty Dollar Sues The Us Mint
Quote:
Quote:Is this guy stupid or what?

or what. He's a genius, actually.

I'm giving my $20 eLiberties back, for the cause.

You guys are suckers if you give even one cent. You can't recognize a scam when you see one?

That guy's argument is that the law allows him to do whatever it is he is doing. In other words, it's black and white. That means it's a prima facie case. When you have a prima facie case, you file a motion for summary judgment or judgment as a matter of law. End of story. There is no jury trial, no taking of 3000 hours of depositions or anything else.

Rule 56 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure allow the filing of a motion for summary judgment 21 days after the defendant(s) have been served. Since the government has 60 days to answer a complaint, that might be kind of pointless, but as soon as the government answers, he ought to be filing a motion for summary judgment.

If he doesn't or can't, then he's full of shit. Anyway, his attorney's fees shouldn't be more than $8,000 to $10,000, not the $100,000 he's claiming.
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03-26-2007, 05:50 PM,
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Alert: Liberty Dollar Sues The Us Mint
What he is doing is NOT illegal. Libertydollar does not claim and has never claimed to be legal tendar. It is a barter system of trade. It has been around for 7 or 8 years now. The fed alreayd has stated it is legal.
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04-11-2007, 04:33 PM,
#6
Alert: Liberty Dollar Sues The Us Mint
Lawsuit – Update & First firm date

This was from a email alert from Libertydollar.org

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Good morning Fellow Liberty Dollar Supporters,

The US government has been served and we have our first firm date. The government must reply by May 25, as they have 60 days from date of service.

Immediately following the government’s reply, which we anticipate will be a denial, the judge will call a Scheduling Hearing with the opposing attorneys and layout the schedule for discovery, briefs, orals, with his decision to follow. Given that each of these four steps will take 30 days, plus the two months the government has to reply, means we will not have a decision until September 25. It is also given that the judge will take 30 days to render his decision. This is just over a year since the US Mint posted their warning on September 13th and just a week shy of our 9th Anniversary on October 1. Interesting timing.

Of course, another six months is a hell of a long time for the Liberty Dollar to hold its breath. As you are probably aware, we are struggling against less demand for Liberty Dollars and more legal expenses.

SO PLEASE READ THIS IMPORTANT NOTE: The US Mint has acknowledged that the Liberty Dollar is LEGAL. Director of the Mint Moy even acknowledged that the paper Silver Certificate was not illegal in a letter to a Senator! It is only the USE of the Liberty Dollar that is in contention. There is NO HARM in owning Liberty Dollars. There is nothing to fear. You are NOT going to be arrested.

Please be one of the few to have made a donation. Currently we are just over $5,000 and we need to raise $100,000. And if you have made a donation, THANK YOU! And remember, you will receive a special Defense Liberty Dollar for every $20 you do donate... after we win. That is true for donating Liberty Dollars or US dollars... both are acceptable... in any form... check, cash, bank card, digital. It all counts. Please send what you can now... it is going to be a long six months of holding our breaths.

Plus silver is up to almost $14 per ounce! The base for much higher prices seems very strong. So please consider a specially hallmarked Defense Silver Liberty for only $25... This issue is limited during the lawsuit... it will not be available after the lawsuit is over. More info at: http://www.libertydollar.org/catalog/produ...products_id=180.

And for Hawaii buffs, please check out the stunning new 2007 $5 Princess Kaiulani. Certainly, one of the most beautiful issues in my 33 years and over 800 different issues to date at: http://www.hawaiidala.com/announce/kaiulani_5.html.

PLEASE don’t let the government steal your right to use gold and silver as a private voluntary currency between consenting adults. The Liberty Dollar v US Mint lawsuit is an important case for everyone who respects value as a means of exchange. Please make a donation today. Our research is very strong that we can and will win. We anticipate that we will win. Otherwise we would not have initiated this lawsuit. Please help us win with a donation or order some Defense Libertys.

Thanks again for all your efforts to return America to value – one Liberty Dollar at a time.

Bernard von NotHaus
Monetary Architect
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