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The Global Warming Swindle: Hey Buddy, It`s Cooling!
09-05-2009, 09:09 AM,
The Global Warming Swindle: Hey Buddy, It`s Cooling!
Quote:So big oil supports AGW. Why would it do so, when reduction in carbon use MEANS reduction in income? What's the reason? Come on, tell me what the reason must be!

Scarcity (whether real or contrived) of desired commodities always drives up prices. Bar none.

Hydrocarbons are the most abundant, efficient, and inexpensive energy source that humanity has access to with the widest and most effective daily uses. Nothing else comes close; not wind, solar, tidal, or nuclear, nor does the future hold any real hopes for the first 3 ever being useful.

I would argue that reduction of carbon use increases income, and considerably.

Big oil will always be able to buy the carbon offset credits of smaller companies as they already have such vast market penetration and of course enormous profits. Sure small companies may be able to sell credits, but the ability to effectively transition to greatly increased production, grow as a company, and then have to purchase credits as an offset makes a companies ability to expand extremely difficult. If the concept of the credits is to reduce emissions then the credit quota should ostensibly never increase but rather gradually decrease. In this case, no matter what, smaller companies will get the squeeze anyway while the big boys can scoop up the remains. All the while the commodity of oil gains increasing, albeit contrived scarcity, thereby raising value.

This is no different in any way to what the landed aristocracy of England and the Eastern Establishment families have been engaged in for the last 150+ years, which is to limit the availability of land to the hoi-poloi, via land reserves, parks, nature conservancies, and environmental regulations. The net effect being artificially increased land values and control / limitation of resources. It's no conspiracy, rather it is simply an agenda and a very open one at that.

The DeBeers stranglehold on a abundant semi-precious stone vastly increases value as well.

The dividing line between nefarious conspiracy and open agenda is often muddy and confused for 'conspiracy' researchers due to the community being infused with so much right-wing paranoia that, deluded or otherwise, is convinced, anything approximating class consciousness is communism or socialism. Class consciousness accurately delineates who the enemy is and has always been; aristocracy and oligarchy both of which are up to their necks in the oil industry.

I see no mystery here.

Give me the judgment of balanced minds in preference to laws every time. Codes and manuals create patterned behavior. All patterned behavior tends to go unquestioned, gathering destructive momentum.
- Darwi Odrade
09-05-2009, 02:05 PM,
The Global Warming Swindle: Hey Buddy, It`s Cooling!
To attack one front of the Climate Change agenda: the data used to generate IPCC reports. This data is used to create the report for policy makers and is often the sole document that governments take into consideration when forming climate change policy. It is incomplete and fails to take into account all factors sunspots, the fact man made C02 gets absorbed too, the ocean clouds' contribution to the greenhouse effect, urban warming effect, the fact the entire solar system is warming), The 350+ GT of C02 from other sources compared with the 18 GT/year humans produce (rotting biomass, volcanic activity ..) not to mention the 3,000 GT already in the atmosphere. Makes biased assumptions (aerosols' cooling factor is way overestimated, future C02 release -- consistent with today's output even though we are at peak oil). Graph and model manipulation/presentation (hockey stick graph among many others, 0.6 C scaling). And finally the fact the Global Climate Record data used is not verifiable and being denied public access for audit as I cite a telling state of affairs in the following..

Steve McIntyre of Climate Audit Canada contacted the Climactic Research Unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia, the prime repository of the data that underlie the “overwhelming scientific consensus” in the Climate Science community. He requested the original raw data (the Global Climate Record) behind their temperature trend conclusions.

He eventually got this response from Roger Pielke, Jr.:

We are not in a position to supply data for a particular country not covered by the example agreements referred to earlier, as we have never had sufficient resources to keep track of the exact source of each individual monthly value. Since the 1980s, we have merged the data we have received into existing series or begun new ones, so it is impossible to say if all stations within a particular country or if all of an individual record should be freely available. Data storage availability in the 1980s meant that we were not able to keep the multiple sources for some sites, only the station series after adjustment for homogeneity issues. We, therefore, do not hold the original raw data but only the value-added (i.e. quality controlled and homogenized) data.


Of course there are many more points to make a case against man made C02 induced global warming. Among them are media sensationalism, environmental journalism bias, disproportionate science funding, climate scientist hit peices, the environmentalist (eugenic) + government + corporate + wall street + globalization agenda.

You can't ignore it is, by far, more popular to wave the global warming flag both politically and socially. Facebook has over 300 global warming groups and ~20 are against it and members are outnumbered ~250:1. Seems the propaganda campaign is working on the zombie youth.

Other Sources:

MIT Team Says "Global Warming Part of Earth's Natural Cycle"

The Real Climate Agenda

6 Reasons Global Warming Doesn't Mean the End of the World

Meet the man who has exposed the great climate change con trick

Global sea level virtually flat since 2006

New Peer-Reviewed Study Finds Natural Causes for 20th Century Warming

Cosmic Rays Blamed For Global Warming

Climate Change Timeline - 1895-2009 - Fear = Funding

The Surface Temperature Record - Local Heating Effect

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10-08-2009, 09:33 AM, (This post was last modified: 10-08-2009, 09:35 AM by JazzRoc.)
The Global Warming Swindle: Hey Buddy, It`s Cooling!
Yes. The powers that be are inaccurate in their predictions. Well, quite a few, but not the main.

The long- term global average temperature trend is definitely UP. There's no point getting excited about a decadal slowing caused by a merging of "downs". Just wait till the merging of "ups".... :(

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