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Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever.
11-03-2007, 12:11 AM,
Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever.
Quote:Not trying to fight your battles SE, just weary of reading the hostilities.
Oh my bad. :cry:
&We grow to recognize form. We grow to label that form. In doing so, do we become more intelligent? Do we become more awakened?& - Siji Tzu 四季子
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11-03-2007, 02:52 AM,
Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever.
"Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever''... Hmmm... ''Is'' established fact. ''Hoax'' defines a lie exists based on the absence of a fact. ''Ever'' the principle truth... If you deny the Spirit, fact has no body to define... Perfection, defined by the Spirit, the Love in agreement with the fact that the body is defined by the Word, is not a hoax, it is an inescapable principle reality. If Jesus is not the Word of God defined as fact, what name defines the word ''is'', Clinton? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pL6RCHywcV8
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11-03-2007, 09:03 AM,
Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever.
Quote:"Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever''... Hmmm... ''Is'' established fact. ''Hoax'' defines a lie exists based on the absence of a fact. ''Ever'' the principle truth... If you deny the Spirit, fact has no body to define... Perfection, defined by the Spirit, the Love in agreement with the fact that the body is defined by the Word, is not a hoax, it is an inescapable principle reality. If Jesus is not the Word of God defined as fact, what name defines the word ''is'', Clinton? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pL6RCHywcV8

but there is a mountain of factrs, so what youre doing here is pulling a strawman. ALL the facts however goes against a historical Jesus. And the rest is as per usual, utter nonsense and cultist drivel
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11-03-2007, 10:04 AM, (This post was last modified: 11-03-2007, 10:38 AM by SerialExpLain.)
Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever.
Quote:You are such a little weirdo, Serial.

It's been quite some time since we've first gone to opposite sides of the fence. Almost immediately after I started discussing religion with you. I've come to notice a pattern.

First off, if someone criticizes Christianity, they are deemed a psychopath.

This is interesting because to you a psychopath is not human, but a soulless devil creation meant to torment believers until the end of the world.

Secondly, if they mention anything about interconnectedness they are OTO Gnostic. And more recently, gay.

If they continue to argue with you they steadily become more sinister and more grandiose. Agents provocateur.

You believe in a literal apocalypse, rapture complete with Jesus coming back. That means that there is a concerted effort among the heathens to cause this rapture. Mostly by destroying the church and provoking God to protect his chosen people. This concerted effort is drugs and rock music. As well as TV and movies. And atheists. And pro-choice libertarians. Illuminati. Whatever.

After a while you quote biblebelievers.org and start blabbering about synarchy and 2012 before just talking crazy talk.

The fact of the matter is: you're predictable. Why are you predictable? Because you have a set, and fully rigid, belief about the way the world works. Being a born again individual who was once quite involved in the occult, this sounds quite in character for you. You are prone to dogmatic mood swings that are quite acute. You appear to have the tendency to throw a significant amount of energy into your currently accepted ethos.

Perhaps now that you have this self awareness about yourself you can use it productively.

Now do me.

Peace and Happy 4:20.

Hey, you basically nailed it. BUT! I am predictable because I am being 100% candid. Yes, I am unabashidly Christian. BUT! The reason why I get testy is for the same reason one would get testy over somebody disrespecting a family member, but it is about a million times more intense.

BECAUSE....I do take every last word of the KJV as the absolute end-all WORD OF GOD.

And it is Good News because if you read closely Triplesix, anybody who has not commited the ULTIMATE DIS on the Holy Spirit is okay for all eternity and will live quite a marvelous eternity (to my standards of what I would consider a marvelous eternity).

SO, I have deduced that only the psychopaths are not invited. Why? Because they F*UP this world. It just wouldn't be marvelous for eternity if they were invited to the true end-of-the-world party.

AND....because of this, well division, that is why we have lies and false religions and deceitful wars and
HAARP killing those beloved polar bears, walrus, seals, penguins and radiation and poisons killing us. The UNINVITED are vengeful. But, because they commited the unpardonable sin which I am sure can only be committed by those with absolutely no conscious and, here is the most important part I believe WITH MALICE. There has to be a division time. The Bible exists SO YOU KNOW someone is going to get rid of the sadists for you.

Now for everyone else, no matter what religion or lack of religion you believe - God believes in your trying to find him...hmm? That make sense. If you are trying to find the highest source of love and trying to pass it on to other living beings - that is why there was the New Testament - not to scrap the old but simply to say its cool. It really was about sacrifice. God was sickened by all the sacrifice, so that was the reason for Jesus' incarnation. And perhaps that is when you know you have become Christian because you stop sacrificing to "other gods". But, anyway. Everybody is a sinner. So there is not one person alive -- ever who was ever pure enough to enter heaven without the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross. And noone can ever do it by their own will. And no matter how many times you backslide, all is forgiven if you really want it to be forgiven. That is between an individual and God.

Because of all of that, that is why I believe the Bible is 100% acurate. Where else are you going to find the entire story, all the where? when? who? and why? with prophecy and timelines and simply everything you would need to properly navigate life and more importantly a message of HOPE. As, in case you haven't noticed things are rather down hill quite a bit.

HOPE someday all the things that one suffered that made absolutely no sense will not be a factor anymore and everything will make complete sense all of the time. And you get all your dead friends back:).

One other thing, I was really moved by Ann Catherine Emmerich's vision of Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane. Medically, you really can sweat blood. The power of seeing and feeling all the sins of every person who ever lived and taking all of that into Himself. Whoa.

So, in light of that. Is it too much for us to show respect, empathize and feel the plight of all those who are suffering and dying each day wrongful deaths by the culmination of evil forces on the planet. It didn't have to be like that. That is why I am a Christian.

* * *

Tripplesix, I will "do" you one day. But to be honest, it has been a while and am rusty on your stylistic
points and I am sure it will be much harder to "do" you because you are no where as near predictable as I am.

Peace and happy 4:20 to you also.
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11-03-2007, 12:27 PM,
Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever.
Wow Serial. That was nice. Predictable, :tongue: , but nice.

It's another 4:20, my thoughts are a bit hazy at this particular moment.

Any follow up is redundant. I think I understand your position, the KJV Christian position. I still disagree, but that's obvious. I suppose I'm pleased it came to this conclusion.

Very civil. Peace.
&We grow to recognize form. We grow to label that form. In doing so, do we become more intelligent? Do we become more awakened?& - Siji Tzu 四季子
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11-04-2007, 12:54 AM, (This post was last modified: 11-04-2007, 01:04 AM by triplesix.)
Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever.
Back to the topic, I thought I'd share some of my favourite Jesus quotes with you:

""Think not that I am come to send peace to earth: I come not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter-in- law against her mother-in-law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me." Matthew 10:34-37

"And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the Kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire: Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched." Mark 9:47-48

"But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; I say unto you, fear him." Luke 12:5

The idea of Hell, the implantation of the concept of Hell having the possibility to exist. It is the antipodal paradox of both fearing and hoping for an afterlife. Jesus offers hope, but he offers fear as well. Fear of something ingeniously and deviously conspired; an appeal to the most juvenile and primeval instincts of human psychology. Fear of Hell and hope for Heaven. Life and Death become a gamble and everlasting bliss is the jackpot. Odds are you go to Hell.

Jesus is the dealer. But you have to be Christian to play the game.

An ingenious hoax.

This judgment is determined how? By sins? Talk about Big Brother. Santa is watching. You'll get a lump of brimstone when you die if you're bad this lifetime... Juvenile and primitive. Fear of punishment for wrong doings.

Just plain SUPERSTITION.

Hell cannot exist. Here's why. Morality is fundamentally based on empathy. One should not want to do wrong once they are aware that doing wrong causes harm to others. Christian morality replaces that concept with Heaven and Hell. There can be no empathy with Heaven OR Hell.

How is one supposed to enjoy "eternal bliss" in Heaven while, say, their wife, father and one of two sons are burning in Hell for their "sins" while their mother and other son are there in Heaven with him for being Christian? Do you see how absurd that idea becomes? There can be no Heaven if you have any sense of empathy, and if you have no sense of empathy, you can have no chance of going to Heaven.

The whole fucking idea is a paradox built upon nothing except the FEAR that it MAY exist.

Biggest goddamn hoax ever.
&We grow to recognize form. We grow to label that form. In doing so, do we become more intelligent? Do we become more awakened?& - Siji Tzu 四季子
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11-04-2007, 02:16 AM,
Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever.
Thus the epic battle continues, the beat g oes on !!!!

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11-04-2007, 02:18 AM,
Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever.
Quote:Hell cannot exist. Here's why. Morality is fundamentally based on empathy. One should not want to do wrong once they are aware that doing wrong causes harm to others. Christian morality replaces that concept with Heaven and Hell. There can be no empathy with Heaven OR Hell.

How is one supposed to enjoy "eternal bliss" in Heaven while, say, their wife, father and one of two sons are burning in Hell for their "sins" while their mother and other son are there in Heaven with him for being Christian? Do you see how absurd that idea becomes? There can be no Heaven if you have any sense of empathy, and if you have no sense of empathy, you can have no chance of going to Heaven.

The whole fucking idea is a paradox built upon nothing except the FEAR that it MAY exist.
nice 666 :-)

i suppose it's hardly worth pointing out that those who promise heaven and threaten hell - i.e. conceptual authority, (given their personal behaviour) have always been the least likely to enter heaven:confused:
Vitam Impendere Vero
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11-04-2007, 02:47 AM,
Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever.
Mothandrust who are you to say who goes to this heaven or not and maybe it hasnt occured to you, but a lot of people who truely preach that shit dont even believe in it, in the first place and are sociopaths just using the system, the real bastards lol.
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11-04-2007, 03:12 AM,
Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever.
Quote:Mothandrust who are you to say who goes to this heaven or not and maybe it hasnt occured to you, but a lot of people who truely preach that shit dont even believe in it, in the first place and are sociopaths just using the system, the real bastards lol.
sorry hbn - that was my point. they can't believe it, as they'd be the last people to get there. heaven is a scam to keep ignorance in line. the plain fact of the matter is, no one knows what is beyond (your) death, anyone who tells you otherwise is a liar.

....
i think you should bring back the jones gif to you sig - most amusing
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11-04-2007, 05:04 AM,
Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever.
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Quote:"Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever''... Hmmm... ''Is'' established fact. ''Hoax'' defines a lie exists based on the absence of a fact. ''Ever'' the principle truth... If you deny the Spirit, fact has no body to define... Perfection, defined by the Spirit, the Love in agreement with the fact that the body is defined by the Word, is not a hoax, it is an inescapable principle reality. If Jesus is not the Word of God defined as fact, what name defines the word ''is'', Clinton? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pL6RCHywcV8

but there is a mountain of factrs, so what youre doing here is pulling a strawman. ALL the facts however goes against a historical Jesus. And the rest is as per usual, utter nonsense and cultist drivel
''But, there ''IS'' a Mountain of factors'', has no account or cause, as you were, with out principle elemental power... Your strawman exists by your word and you have defined no foundation for it. You continue to define a hoax, with a hoax, as a hoax and are unwilling to be sustain by an intelligent answer. Energy is eternal, your word is unsustained. Intelligent power endowed and defined, is the question. Your word is a physical image of intelligence and has yet to establish or be confirmed. You have no cause and no name that speaks the Word as cause. How can you deny, you are an image of the power invested in you from the intelligent energy cause? No one can physically escape reality unless the grand delusion of the strawman offers them a choice... Energy is not a choice, it is an intelligent response, physical law... Only the positive eternal source is physically confirmed, endowed as it. Absent of an intelligent response, you have confirmed nothing but a conclusion being an event horizon, no principle element loss. Physical law in agreement, the intelligent answer is come, Christ is risen. Until the Word of God in Christ is heard, the principle argument for an intelligent answer to be known perfectly defined among man, remains a circles edge in question and resides paranormal in time... God is perfect and formed an image, man. Man is created and sustained as an agreement for God by His principle force, energy and cause, the Love of God in Christ... Presence with perfection does not sustain loss, it requires the virtue of physical presence endowed as the perfect principle power and glory. The law and death are defined by no agreement or cause, as a principality... The knowledge acquired by sin is known by the body and blood of Christ. God defines perfect response, Jesus. The principle sustains as cause because, it is not a choice. God is always confirmed, Jesus is defined. The fact remains, our current condition is a result of an elder brother with no cause and his spirit does not agree with the Love of God in Christ. Lucifer assaulted the Son of God with out cause, there is no intelligence with the spirit of Lucifer. Only the memory of Jesus sustains the knowledge of war, the remission of sin... God has given His name sustained, intelligent and the answer in agreement as cause. Lucifer claims to be god paranormal, as you were...
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11-04-2007, 05:35 AM,
Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever.
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Quote:Mothandrust who are you to say who goes to this heaven or not and maybe it hasnt occured to you, but a lot of people who truely preach that shit dont even believe in it, in the first place and are sociopaths just using the system, the real bastards lol.
sorry hbn - that was my point. they can't believe it, as they'd be the last people to get there. heaven is a scam to keep ignorance in line. the plain fact of the matter is, no one knows what is beyond (your) death, anyone who tells you otherwise is a liar.

....
i think you should bring back the jones gif to you sig - most amusing
Are you the source of the lie? Do you communicate because you are endowed by the intelligent source revealed unto you? If you do not have an intelligent answer, how is it that you assume the position, denying the physical presence of God is perfect and defined in agreement, Jesus... Did a god tell you Jesus is a lie? Please share your paranormal experience and wisdom... Why would anyone offer silence as a relationship ethic and standard principle reception? Is it impossible for the Word of God to be silent? What redeeming Word do you know?
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11-04-2007, 01:15 PM,
Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever.
v111
do you understand what you are writing?. I must admit that i cannot decipher that hodgepodge of philosophy, philology, nonsense, make belief and childish accusasions you sling at me. Nothing you say can in any way form or shape be proven beyond your apparently vivid imagination. What im saying is, it contains no fact, no known facts, and then you end up with this pearl

Quote:God has given His name sustained, intelligent and the answer in agreement as cause.

so why are his followers so unable to produce just a few coherent sentences?

Quote:Lucifer claims to be god paranormal, as you were...

no actually that is what youre doing by insisting on the unnatural/paranormal story of Jesus.
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11-04-2007, 09:08 PM,
Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever.
Quote:v111
do you understand what you are writing?. I must admit that i cannot decipher that hodgepodge of philosophy, philology, nonsense, make belief and childish accusasions you sling at me. Nothing you say can in any way form or shape be proven beyond your apparently vivid imagination. What im saying is, it contains no fact, no known facts, and then you end up with this pearl

Quote: God has given His name sustained, intelligent and the answer in agreement as cause.

so why are his followers so unable to produce just a few coherent sentences?

Quote:Lucifer claims to be god paranormal, as you were...

no actually that is what youre doing by insisting on the unnatural/paranormal story of Jesus.
How is a relation of God paranormal? Absent from perfect principle, is paranormal. The flesh of the Son in agreement with the command of the Father, is perfect principle. The Son of God lives by the Word of the Father, the same cause in the Son sustains eternal life in agreement, perfect principle, the Spirit of the Father sustains the whole truth. Intelligent, Love, cause... With out the principle, nothing is defined in agreement with it and nothing is sustained. The body and blood defines the IMAGE of the WORD by the SPIRIT of GOD in agreement, perfectly. IMAGE of a man, is plain to see, what agrees with God in man, is the Spirit of the Word of God in Christ. If you see a sign post on the road of a foreign land, paranormal to your country of origin and you don't know what it means, should you read the local law? If you read the law and then see the sign, intelligent designed to sustain principle, for the sake of that country, in agreement with you, sustains perfect principle and life... If you do not comply, it is an assault against the principle of the sign and reflects the LACK of intelligent principle power, temporarily able to move with out cause... Your life has meaning, in agreement with the law of that country... Now take that sign and understand Jesus... If it is not in your interest to know the law in relation with the sign, your paranormal activity becomes a subject based on your absent regard to the meaning of the Word and the Sign. If you can't see the sign in the Word, the intersection of your being and perfect principle, is obvious. You will not recognise the Spirit, the Sign, if you do not understand the Word is not paranormal, anything less is... What you offer is denial, a serious wreck in progress. Pull over and read the law, look at the sign and understand the principle at least will extend your travel. Think about the fact that God is always present and the journey never ends in a wreck , if you know Jesus is risen in agreement with the Word of God as a sign of eternal salvation, ever lasting life...
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11-04-2007, 09:26 PM,
Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever.
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Quote:Mothandrust who are you to say who goes to this heaven or not and maybe it hasnt occured to you, but a lot of people who truely preach that shit dont even believe in it, in the first place and are sociopaths just using the system, the real bastards lol.
sorry hbn - that was my point. they can't believe it, as they'd be the last people to get there. heaven is a scam to keep ignorance in line. the plain fact of the matter is, no one knows what is beyond (your) death, anyone who tells you otherwise is a liar.

....
i think you should bring back the jones gif to you sig - most amusing
Are you the source of the lie? Do you communicate because you are endowed by the intelligent source revealed unto you? If you do not have an intelligent answer, how is it that you assume the position, denying the physical presence of God is perfect and defined in agreement, Jesus... Did a god tell you Jesus is a lie? Please share your paranormal experience and wisdom... Why would anyone offer silence as a relationship ethic and standard principle reception? Is it impossible for the Word of God to be silent? What redeeming Word do you know?
Love, my brother
(Corinthians I 13 is a good place to start)
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