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Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever.
11-04-2007, 10:54 PM,
Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever.
You can't get something from nothing... You can't be absent of intelligence... You must offer your life defined by God... Freedom is a free offer from God... Jesus Christ defined, is the only principle elemental cause for man to exist... returned as an offer of perfection... the direct order that sustains eternal life as the Word... The dust of the Earth corrupted, has experienced an event of perfection in agreement with the Word of God in the beginning, when God established man from the dust, uncorrupted... The fruit of this event, is an offer that must be received in agreement with the Word of God... Lucifer is not in agreement... He has fallen to Earth with out a parachute... Lucifer is not from the tree on Earth. Lucifer is a foreign weed... Consider knowing that your Son wants to kill you in order to inherit the Earth. It is impossible for a son to exist, as it is impossible for the Son of God not to have a Father. The assault of Lucifer fell upon the Son of God. When Lucifer offered his word to man, all flesh on earth was subject to his word, like a car being driven by a person with out regard for anything... The wreck in progress is a result of a malicious assault. Lucifer offered a New Order, no meaning as sign. Lucifer is not from the dust of the Earth, he left his first estate, the body as a New World Order. In order to restore order, the fruit of the tree must be KNOWN as a SIGN for man, from God, as an order sustained. Food for thought? It is not a leap of faith, Jesus is a parachute for life. The Spirit of God is able to establish the dust with the Word of God, the womb of a woman... Is it normal to jump from a plane with out a parachute? Don't listen to anyone that tells you, it's a leap of faith to use a parachute. The Spirit of God in Christ is, anointed reality of the body and blood and eternal life, NORMAL, physical law as the Word of God defined... You do not have to ask to be paranormal... You must ask to be forgiven and the gift is free, established work of God, Jesus... By the way, one Word defines a sign and your intelligence. If it's good and you do not know it, you have fallen for a paranormal intelligent interpretation... If you do not have anything good to offer, that word possesses you... To answer your question, ''do I know what I am saying?'' Rhetorical question offers no principle, no possible reward, an eternal torment.
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11-04-2007, 11:17 PM,
Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever.
Quote:Hell cannot exist. Here's why. Morality is fundamentally based on empathy. One should not want to do wrong once they are aware that doing wrong causes harm to others. Christian morality replaces that concept with Heaven and Hell. There can be no empathy with Heaven OR Hell.

How is one supposed to enjoy "eternal bliss" in Heaven while, say, their wife, father and one of two sons are burning in Hell for their "sins" while their mother and other son are there in Heaven with him for being Christian? Do you see how absurd that idea becomes? There can be no Heaven if you have any sense of empathy, and if you have no sense of empathy, you can have no chance of going to Heaven.

The whole fucking idea is a paradox built upon nothing except the FEAR that it MAY exist.

Jesus used this miserable place (Hell) as symbolic of the fate of unrepentant sinners

The words hell fire, are translated from the Greek word gehenna (the Valley of Hinnom) just outside of Jerusalem.
It was a garbage dump in which fires burned constantly, fueled by trash and the dead bodies of animals and criminals.
The fire was not extinguished—it burned as long as there was trash to keep it burning.

I don't believe anyone will be tormented forever in hell. Hell is the last death, after that you will never live again.

I do however, believe in Jesus.
There's plenty of real evidence for Jesus' existence, and that he really taught about the nature and kingdom of God and was killed for it.

You can debate all day over whether or not he was the "Son" of God or "God in the flesh." This debate has went on near 2000yrs.
&Alice laughed, &There's no use trying,& she said: &one can't believe impossible things.& &I daresay you haven't had much practice,& said the Queen. &When I was your age I always did it for half-an-hour a day. Why, I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.&
- Lewis Carroll

&Things are seldom as they seem ... Skim milk masquerades as cream.&
- Gilbert and Sullivan (Pinafore)

At NASA, it really is rocket science, and the decision makers really are rocket scientists.
But a body of research that is getting more and more attention points to the ways that smart people working collectively can be dumber than the sum of their parts. .. Irwin Janis? &Groupthink:& is a mode of thinking that people engage in when they are deeply involved in a cohesive in-group, when the members' striving for unanimity override realistic appraisals ? It is the triumph of concurrence over good sense, and authority over expertise.&
-John Schwartz & Matthew L. Wade
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11-04-2007, 11:39 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-04-2007, 11:41 PM by jack.)
Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever.
Quote:"And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the Kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire: Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched." Mark 9:47-48
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Biggest goddamn hoax ever.
Jesus says the worm does not die, not that the people punished in hell-fire do not die.

Burned bodies in the original gehenna, the Valley of Hinnom, decomposed and were infested with maggots. Flies swarm over the decaying refuse and keep it continuously infested with maggots. The bodies of animals and people thrown into gehenna, either decayed or burned up and, of course, were eventually completely consumed.
Gone forever.

It's everlasting punishment, not everlasting punishing. Eternal death through hell, not eternal life in hell.
Perish, gone forever, reduced to ashes, never to live again. Death as opposed to new life.
&Alice laughed, &There's no use trying,& she said: &one can't believe impossible things.& &I daresay you haven't had much practice,& said the Queen. &When I was your age I always did it for half-an-hour a day. Why, I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.&
- Lewis Carroll

&Things are seldom as they seem ... Skim milk masquerades as cream.&
- Gilbert and Sullivan (Pinafore)

At NASA, it really is rocket science, and the decision makers really are rocket scientists.
But a body of research that is getting more and more attention points to the ways that smart people working collectively can be dumber than the sum of their parts. .. Irwin Janis? &Groupthink:& is a mode of thinking that people engage in when they are deeply involved in a cohesive in-group, when the members' striving for unanimity override realistic appraisals ? It is the triumph of concurrence over good sense, and authority over expertise.&
-John Schwartz & Matthew L. Wade
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11-04-2007, 11:58 PM,
Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever.
Quote:
Quote:Hell cannot exist. Here's why. Morality is fundamentally based on empathy. One should not want to do wrong once they are aware that doing wrong causes harm to others. Christian morality replaces that concept with Heaven and Hell. There can be no empathy with Heaven OR Hell.

How is one supposed to enjoy "eternal bliss" in Heaven while, say, their wife, father and one of two sons are burning in Hell for their "sins" while their mother and other son are there in Heaven with him for being Christian? Do you see how absurd that idea becomes? There can be no Heaven if you have any sense of empathy, and if you have no sense of empathy, you can have no chance of going to Heaven.

The whole fucking idea is a paradox built upon nothing except the FEAR that it MAY exist.

Jesus used this miserable place (Hell) as symbolic of the fate of unrepentant sinners

The words hell fire, are translated from the Greek word gehenna (the Valley of Hinnom) just outside of Jerusalem.
It was a garbage dump in which fires burned constantly, fueled by trash and the dead bodies of animals and criminals.
The fire was not extinguished—it burned as long as there was trash to keep it burning.

I don't believe anyone will be tormented forever in hell. Hell is the last death, after that you will never live again.

I do however, believe in Jesus.
There's plenty of real evidence for Jesus' existence, and that he really taught about the nature and kingdom of God and was killed for it.

You can debate all day over whether or not he was the "Son" of God or "God in the flesh." This debate has went on near 2000yrs.
There is no possible debate, there is fact or denial. Hell is not good news, that's a fact. Jesus is good news, that's a fact. God is intelligent, that's a fact. There is no possible way to reconcile fact, unless the fact is known. The fact must be present. If you are offered fact, you need a physical confirmation for it. Jesus is fact... Denial of Jesus, in fact, offers no reward or presence as fact... The angels among man, fallen or not, do not deny Christ. The fallen flee from fact and the risen are sustained in agreement as fact. There is no cause in fact, for man to exist with out relation with the fact, the whole truth. A lie is not good news. Christ is in fact, perfect agreement with God...
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11-05-2007, 01:43 AM,
Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever.
8 pages and still no proof? :LOL:

Oh dear I wonder why that is. <_<

Following "Jesus" is for me just the same as believing in Bigfoot or anything else like that.

Christians have got to realise this?

Just because Christianity is all dressed up as this official "holy" thing going back thousands of years doesn't cut it for me - if they did the same with Bigfoot, they had a Bigfoot bible and buildings everywhere you could all go to on Sundays to pray to Bigfoot, you Christian-types would just believe in that as opposed to Jesus.

8 pages and still no proof? :LOL:

Oh dear I wonder why that is. <_<
&Everybody thinks everybody else thinks on their level& - LeveL
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11-05-2007, 04:26 AM,
Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever.
Quote:8 pages and still no proof? :LOL:

Oh dear I wonder why that is. <_<

Following "Jesus" is for me just the same as believing in Bigfoot or anything else like that.

Christians have got to realise this?

Just because Christianity is all dressed up as this official "holy" thing going back thousands of years doesn't cut it for me - if they did the same with Bigfoot, they had a Bigfoot bible and buildings everywhere you could all go to on Sundays to pray to Bigfoot, you Christian-types would just believe in that as opposed to Jesus.

8 pages and still no proof? :LOL:

Oh dear I wonder why that is. <_<
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bt5lznvz9iE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hwq3nNHyPI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nePLDeLViQE You found something that took you for a ride, stayed on for eight pages, offered only denial for cause... Sounds like some gold holding you interested enough to ride with it. It's obvious what key the song is in, when some one invests the time to listen to the song that you are singing... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eh44QPT1mPE Please... play us your tune http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZ1_M_L_RSI and I'll ask, what are you doing here? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTtxruV9vgc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrZTNhW44-o If not to sing the song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOtNqDyyX2c http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_PV4vVP1Yg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJWeTqbetnQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1wKK0QOgdE You obviously enjoy the ride, by your laughter? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9043FUXJZ4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPQR-OsH0RQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAVfgOiVftI
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11-05-2007, 07:47 AM,
Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever.
Quote:How is a relation of God paranormal?

break...that is not what i was saying. I was talking about the story of Jesus. Precisely the virgin birth et all, not having a relationship with God. So in fact, here you are not responding to anything I said, but something that you would have liked, and that is a Strawman!

Quote:Absent from perfect principle, is paranormal

Pi Is not a prefect principle, PHI is. You dont even know the stuff you talk about at surface depth, so how can i take you seriously?

Quote:. The flesh of the Son in agreement with the command of the Father, is perfect principle. The Son of God lives by the Word of the Father, the same cause in the Son sustains eternal life in agreement, perfect principle, the Spirit of the Father sustains the whole truth. Intelligent, Love, cause... With out the principle, nothing is defined in agreement with it and nothing is sustained

that is a lot of assumptions. how dod all this come in from having a relationship with God. now you have mixed pi and the bible into it. How did that happen, what is the rationale behind it? The above is not universally acknowleged facts but something streight out of your cult pamflet.

Quote:. The body and blood defines the IMAGE of the WORD by the SPIRIT of GOD in agreement, perfectly. IMAGE of a man, is plain to see, what agrees with God in man, is the Spirit of the Word of God in Christ. If you see a sign post on the road of a foreign land, paranormal to your country of origin and you don't know what it means, should you read the local law? If you read the law and then see the sign, intelligent designed to sustain principle, for the sake of that country, in agreement with you, sustains perfect principle and life... If you do not comply, it is an assault against the principle of the sign and reflects the LACK of intelligent principle power, temporarily able to move with out cause... Your life has meaning, in agreement with the law of that country... Now take that sign and understand Jesus... If it is not in your interest to know the law in relation with the sign, your paranormal activity becomes a subject based on your absent regard to the meaning of the Word and the Sign. If you can't see the sign in the Word, the intersection of your being and perfect principle, is obvious. You will not recognise the Spirit, the Sign, if you do not understand the Word is not paranormal, anything less is... What you offer is denial, a serious wreck in progress. Pull over and read the law, look at the sign and understand the principle at least will extend your travel. Think about the fact that God is always present and the journey never ends in a wreck , if you know Jesus is risen in agreement with the Word of God as a sign of eternal salvation, ever lasting life...

cultpamflet.tm ..so many words, so little substance. this is evidence of you being a cult member and thats about it.
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11-05-2007, 12:43 PM,
Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever.
fact n. 1. Knowledge or information based on real occurrences.
Quote:There is no possible debate, there is fact or denial. Hell is not good news, that's a fact. Jesus is good news, that's a fact. God is intelligent, that's a fact.
There is no evidence Hell exists, Jesus is "good news," or God is intelligent. You cannot call these things facts because you believe in them. These are opinions.
Quote:The fact must be present. If you are offered fact, you need a physical confirmation for it.
Exactly. You know that. Weird. Then why all the stuff below and above this?
Quote:Jesus is fact... Denial of Jesus, in fact, offers no reward or presence as fact... The angels among man, fallen or not, do not deny Christ. The fallen flee from fact and the risen are sustained in agreement as fact.
Okay, hold on. "Jesus is fact," opinion again; that denial of Jesus bit I'm assuming means that if you don't believe in him you get nothing, another opinion. As far as the angels believing in Christ, well that's cyclical logic. Two mythological entities of the same mythology would surely believe in one another. Otherwise the story doesn't make much sense. "The fallen flee from fact" is a meaningless assertion. "The fallen" lacks a clear definition and even defined, all members can hardly be expected to consistently "flee from fact." The second bit is negligible for the same reason.
Quote:There is no cause in fact, for man to exist with out relation with the fact, the whole truth. A lie is not good news. Christ is in fact, perfect agreement with God...
I can't say I'm satisfied with this esoteric closing argument. I think little can be derived from this final clause.

I don't think it is even possible to counter with an argument at this point.
&We grow to recognize form. We grow to label that form. In doing so, do we become more intelligent? Do we become more awakened?& - Siji Tzu 四季子
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11-06-2007, 02:03 AM,
Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever.
It sure is a pain in the butt trying to post... I have lost a lot of posting. This really sucks. What source is sucking up everything? I keep getting screwed by this shut down/CPU or what ever the hell it is. Testing 1...2...3... post for the third time now! Aaamazing, it worked... Usually I just clicked back and waited. The last two times I tried to post I could not do that and lost the post... This site has screwed me a lot in this regard. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlzVDDSfeeA
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11-06-2007, 02:46 AM,
Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever.
Quote:
Quote: How is a relation of God paranormal?

break...that is not what i was saying. I was talking about the story of Jesus. Precisely the virgin birth et all, not having a relationship with God. So in fact, here you are not responding to anything I said, but something that you would have liked, and that is a Strawman!

Quote:Absent from perfect principle, is paranormal

Pi Is not a prefect principle, PHI is. You dont even know the stuff you talk about at surface depth, so how can i take you seriously?

Quote:. The flesh of the Son in agreement with the command of the Father, is perfect principle. The Son of God lives by the Word of the Father, the same cause in the Son sustains eternal life in agreement, perfect principle, the Spirit of the Father sustains the whole truth. Intelligent, Love, cause... With out the principle, nothing is defined in agreement with it and nothing is sustained

that is a lot of assumptions. how dod all this come in from having a relationship with God. now you have mixed pi and the bible into it. How did that happen, what is the rationale behind it? The above is not universally acknowleged facts but something streight out of your cult pamflet.

Quote:. The body and blood defines the IMAGE of the WORD by the SPIRIT of GOD in agreement, perfectly. IMAGE of a man, is plain to see, what agrees with God in man, is the Spirit of the Word of God in Christ. If you see a sign post on the road of a foreign land, paranormal to your country of origin and you don't know what it means, should you read the local law? If you read the law and then see the sign, intelligent designed to sustain principle, for the sake of that country, in agreement with you, sustains perfect principle and life... If you do not comply, it is an assault against the principle of the sign and reflects the LACK of intelligent principle power, temporarily able to move with out cause... Your life has meaning, in agreement with the law of that country... Now take that sign and understand Jesus... If it is not in your interest to know the law in relation with the sign, your paranormal activity becomes a subject based on your absent regard to the meaning of the Word and the Sign. If you can't see the sign in the Word, the intersection of your being and perfect principle, is obvious. You will not recognise the Spirit, the Sign, if you do not understand the Word is not paranormal, anything less is... What you offer is denial, a serious wreck in progress. Pull over and read the law, look at the sign and understand the principle at least will extend your travel. Think about the fact that God is always present and the journey never ends in a wreck , if you know Jesus is risen in agreement with the Word of God as a sign of eternal salvation, ever lasting life...

cultpamflet.tm ..so many words, so little substance. this is evidence of you being a cult member and thats about it.
The last sentence, is a principle offer. What is a principle offer? Oh ya, confirm nothing, declare nothing in agreement, a conclusion as fact. That is not unusual and defines a familiar spirit, cult personality, no foundation as cause. ACCUSED CONCLUSION! No intelligent principle offer, sustains nothing as the answer... What part of not knowing, is tangible? If you do not know the answer is the Love of God in Christ, what can you know? DOOO Tell, something. Please, give a your word, the name, the source. Silence agrees with nothing... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnTO9cWyJC8
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11-06-2007, 02:52 AM,
Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever.
Quote:Silence agrees with nothing...
and everything...
Vitam Impendere Vero
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11-06-2007, 03:33 AM,
Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever.
Quote:fact n. 1. Knowledge or information based on real occurrences.
Quote:There is no possible debate, there is fact or denial. Hell is not good news, that's a fact. Jesus is good news, that's a fact. God is intelligent, that's a fact.
There is no evidence Hell exists, Jesus is "good news," or God is intelligent. You cannot call these things facts because you believe in them. These are opinions. Opinions based on intelligence. You are not going to try and give an UNintelligent answer as cause, are you?
Quote:The fact must be present. If you are offered fact, you need a physical confirmation for it.
Exactly. You know that. Weird. Then why all the stuff below and above this?
Quote:Jesus is fact... Denial of Jesus, in fact, offers no reward or presence as fact... The angels among man, fallen or not, do not deny Christ. The fallen flee from fact and the risen are sustained in agreement as fact.
Okay, hold on. "Jesus is fact," opinion again; Fact, is a declaration of a revelation of fact... denial of Jesus bit I'm assuming means that if you don't believe in him you get nothing, another opinion. That is not declared, what is declared is the presence of God... As far as the angels believing in Christ, well that's cyclical logic. and goes with out saying... Two mythological entities of the same mythology would surely believe in one another. Otherwise the story doesn't make much sense. "The fallen flee from fact" is a meaningless assertion. "The fallen" lacks a clear definition and even defined, all members can hardly be expected to consistently "flee from fact." The second bit is negligible for the same reason. The fact/body is defined, always, intelligent. The fact that Jesus is resurrected, sustains the body as fact.
Quote:There is no cause in fact, for man to exist with out relation with the fact, the whole truth. A lie is not good news. Christ is in fact, perfect agreement with God...
I can't say I'm satisfied with this esoteric closing argument. I think little can be derived from this final clause.

I don't think it is even possible to counter with an argument at this point.
Your conclusion is very intelligent... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmbqpRYXQ6g
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11-06-2007, 03:58 AM,
Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever.
I sincerely hope you recognized that as declaring your incoherence rather than capitulation to your wild assertions.
&We grow to recognize form. We grow to label that form. In doing so, do we become more intelligent? Do we become more awakened?& - Siji Tzu 四季子
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11-06-2007, 04:02 AM,
Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever.
Quote:
Quote: Silence agrees with nothing...
and everything...
silent, as a New World Order of opposition... The Spirit of God in Christ, the INTELLIGENT Word/Cause spoken and received in agreement, is not silent, it is Cause. If you do not agree with intelligent/cause/God, silence is equal with the greatest sin and is absent Word as cause. At some point you will know the Word as cause. If you do not know Jesus, in agreement with God, the Word of God declares that you will receive your reply, ''I never knew you''. The problem, you are not silent. You are an image of the Word. Heaven, Earth, flesh passed away, will never end the Word of God. You have been given the Word of God, Jesus. If Jesus is not risen, the flesh of man is fallen corrupt in silence.
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11-06-2007, 04:07 AM,
Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever.
Quote:I sincerely hope you recognized that as declaring your incoherence rather than capitulation to your wild assertions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw9oX-kZ_9k
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