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Making Fucking Money
05-20-2007, 01:26 PM,
#31
Making Fucking Money
Quote:Having said that, there are many people who make a living in the markets.
Most of the retirement funds I'm living on now (close to $1,000,000) were earned in the stock market. I invested every spare nickel I made into 401K mutual growth funds for 25 years while the market was going up, and then bailed out totally when I thought things were getting out of control (it turned out to be premature in hindsight, but I made quite a bit of money from my investments nonetheless).

I've also made quite a bit more than I've lost by dabbling in the stock market with spare money that I felt I could afford to lose. I made $3,000 in one month by investing in an unknown pharmaceutical corporation called "Pharmacia." When they were purchased by UpJohn Inc., I dumped my Pharmacia stock and cleared $3,000 on a one month $15,000 investment.

I also made $10,000 pure profit in six months by investing $40,000 in a Rydex mutual fund that primarily buys certificates of deposit denominated in a foreign currency - Euro's in my particular case. I bought into the fund when the Euro was worth about 85 cents per dollar, and sold when the Euro was worth about $1.30

Ordinary people can and do make money in the stock market, but you have to do a lot of careful study of the economic situation on your own so that you're pretty damn confident that you are doing the right thing and then be willing to bet your hard earned money on it. Most importantly of all of course is forecasting the market correctly, but that's something you will only get with lots of study and hard work. If you expect to be able to read one book or take a single person's recommendation on blind faith then you will end up living in poverty. Being "smart" takes hard work, just a different kind of work (intellectual work and study rather than manual labor).


P.S.
I also tried making money by betting on horse races at one time in my life. :smile: I even wrote a computer program to handicap the races for me based upon various mathematical prediction techniques I had learned about in my engineering classes, but that was before the information was available electronically so I never got past the problem of data entry, because there is a massive amount of information about the past performances of every horse in every race available in the Daily Racing Form and elsewhere.

I finally abandoned my computer program and concentrated on picking horses the old fashioned way - by getting up at 4AM in the morning to buy that day's Daily Racing Form and studying it intensely for 5 or 6 hours prior to racing post time. By doing that I was able to break even, and even make a tiny bit of money at it but to really make a profit would require that you immerse yourself in it and get to know all the major racing thoroughbreds as though they were your own family. I just wasn't that interested in horse racing, but a friend of mine was, and the last I heard he was still doing quite well betting on the ponies. Nowadays however, with the Daily Racing Form and much more historical material available electronically from places like Bloodstock Research Inc., etc., and laptop supercomputers I expect that the "old fashioned" way of picking ponies is no longer profitable.
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05-20-2007, 03:47 PM,
#32
Making Fucking Money
We do have a fine network here, we're in every corner of the world. To popularize something we control for monetary gain would seem not a too extreme feat, like record labels do! The issue would be on agreeing on things and building a budget. As we see there are powerful and wealthy people on board, so monetary sponsorship maybe even possible. But we need good spokesmen and cool headed business-minded people to acquire such monetary sponsorship. People that can live in their world to achieve our objectives, to be in the mist of corrupt individuals and turn a blind eye to it for the greater good. It's possible!

And I when i saw "Making Fucking Money", i though we was talking about porn! LOL!
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05-20-2007, 04:07 PM,
#33
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Silver is where I think it's at.

LibertyDollardotOrg

If you'll make the initial investment of $250USD to become an Liberty Dollar Associate, you can then purchase $20 Silver Liberties at below cost of face value depending on the silver market. Spend ~$1800 on a batch of coins, yet the face value adds to $2000. You just made ~$200USD when you spend or reimberse the coins for FDR's at a merchant. Keep the coins as the price of silver goes up and you'll make even more. Keep the coins for the collectable value and you could make even more than that. I've heard the 1998 Silver Liberties are worth over $250USD as a collectable.

There is a reason why the founding fathers of the USA said the only legal tender is backed by silver in the Constitution. (right?) The Bank of England controls most of the worlds gold and the people still control the majority of the silver (meaning it's still in the ground). If you want more money you dig it up or grow it as a commodity, like weed. :biggrin:
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05-20-2007, 06:05 PM,
#34
Making Fucking Money
Quote:If you'll make the initial investment of $250USD to become an Liberty Dollar Associate,...
Or if you'll simply visit somewhere that sells gold and silver bullion like The Tulving Company you can purchase whatever type of silver or gold coin, bar, bag, or whatever you want for very little over wholesale prices without paying any additional fee of any kind (except perhaps shipping if you don't live close enough to them to pick up your purchases personally). I've purchased some things from them (a few hundred newly minted one ounce pure silver coins, some Maple Leaves, and a couple of "bags" (it comes in a couple of bags inside a bucket actually) of the 90% Silver Coin Bags and some of the 40% Silver Kennedy Half Dollar Bags (scroll down to the bottom). I haven't compared the going prices with what I paid for them because I don't need the money yet, but I'm very happy with my purchases and with the Tulving Company in general (Note: I am not affiliated with Tulving in any way except as a long time customer).
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05-21-2007, 07:47 PM,
#35
Making Fucking Money
Now that's what I call a nice Ride!!!

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My G-Ride!!!


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LOL
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05-21-2007, 08:17 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-21-2007, 08:20 PM by rawgoatsmilk.)
#36
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Holy shit. I haven't been here for a few days, I didn't realize I had so many responses. I'm still making money with Freedomrocks. It's been 3 months and I made 6000 USD off of my original 10000 USD. Pretty fucking good eh? Gee, I'm proud. Look mom, no teeth.

I made 1000 USD just last week. It's paying the bills right now.

Do I feel confident? I still wish I had a more 'secure' trading system, that, say, made 10% per week instead of 10% per month (although these past 3 months I've made 20% per month). I could lose all my money in a vicious market crash. Who fucking knows.
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05-21-2007, 08:26 PM,
#37
Making Fucking Money
lol
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05-21-2007, 09:11 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-21-2007, 09:12 PM by rawgoatsmilk.)
#38
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Funny how? Like I amuse you? Like I'm a clown? Goodfella.

That was some interesting feedback from wawa and blove. I sent wawa a PM, and blove: could you provide any further info along those lines: that is some pretty interesting information.
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05-22-2007, 12:52 AM, (This post was last modified: 05-22-2007, 12:54 AM by Henry.)
#39
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I like this thread topic. Actually, I've actually used my conspiracy knowledge to make a shitload of money for myself and my family.

Yes, the money is jacked, and the world is broken in large part by the Rothschilds. For me once I figured out how the scam worked I largely jumped offboard. If I don't become super wealthy then at least I'm living honestly by not using the NWO's product (dollars) more than I need to. Here's something I wrote on this for those interested. I'd love to hear some feedback.

Silver Investing For Snowboarders
I wanted to be wealthy. A number of years ago I made that decision, and like many people tried creating some businesses with varying degrees of success. However, for me the most important thing I eventually did was take a moment to stop and actually learn what money is, how it is created and how it works. I figured if I knew more about what these dollars were then I’d be able to figure out how to get more of them.

Man, was I nieve. Looking at how money works is like stumbling through a doorway and into an dark, endless landscape, replete with monsters, endless mazes, traps, torture chambers, you know, standard Danteesque fare, except that it’s all real and we’re living in it. This is not hyperbole. If you don’t know what I’m talking about then an entertaining way to wake up to how the world really works is to watch this old filmstrip called An Inside View of International Banking by G. Edward Griffin.

Anyways, after having learned how the currency scam worked I no longer wanted to be played for a sucker. Cash means to be continually robbed through inflation, and collectively enslaved through national debt. Beyond that, the instrument itself maintains what value it has through violence and deceit, literally. Hell, the bills themselves are even tagged with gang signs (the ruling elite’s one-eyed pyramid is just one example).

Precious metal investing is an alternative. Because metal has value in and of itself, its more honest than any other financial instrument. Fraud and corruption might surround a metal transaction, but at least the metal itself isn’t a part of the problem.

This moralizing and attempt at righteous indignation is simply to say that I like silver and silver investing. Besides, investing, at least the way I do it, is as simple as dirt. Anyone who makes it out to be more complex than what a third grader can understand is likely trying to rob you.

Whether silver is cheap or expensive I buy it.

I buy silver stocks when they’re obscenely cheap (now).

I don’t invest on margin or use any sort of credit.

I don’t invest in order that my kids will be able to go to college. Rather, I’m intending that I’ll have a great grandchild so wealthy that one day he’ll buy and go snowboarding on David Rockefeller’s cryogenically preserved corpse.
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05-22-2007, 02:09 AM,
#40
Making Fucking Money
um, when you say u buy silver ... from whom? and when you say silver stocks, are you referring to futures? with what broker?
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05-22-2007, 02:29 AM,
#41
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Quote:um, when you say u buy silver ... from whom? and when you say silver stocks, are you referring to futures? with what broker?

From whichever local bullion dealer charges the lowest over spot price.

I don't mess with futures. That's some scary shit because of the huge amount of leverage involved.

I just use an online brokerage account which allows me to buy canadian stocks (most metal stocks are on the Toronto and Vancouver exchanges). However, I NEVER use a market order - only limit orders will keep you from getting ripped off from the brokers who offer "free" or low cost trades. They make bank on the spread, not on the 7$ gimmick/trade they advertise. Only use limit orders.

I'm into very small cap exploration type stocks. Here's just one random example of what's going on right now due to the funny money and designed devaluation of the dollar...
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=VVI.V&t=6m
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05-22-2007, 03:25 AM, (This post was last modified: 05-22-2007, 03:47 AM by rawgoatsmilk.)
#42
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Scary leverage? I'm trading forex at 400:1 leverage. It doesn't get more scary than that.

Online broker, yeah, but which broker?
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05-22-2007, 03:33 AM, (This post was last modified: 05-22-2007, 03:34 AM by rawgoatsmilk.)
#43
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edit: sorry, double post.
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05-22-2007, 03:42 AM,
#44
Making Fucking Money
Quote:Scary leverage? I'm trading forex at 400:1 leverage. It doesn't get more scary than than.

Online broker, yeah, but which broker?

Yeah, your right, that is scary. Futures tend to go no further than 50:1 or so as I understand. If you can consistently stay ahead with forex that's awesome, and a great skill you could likely transfer to trading anything, because for the most part forex seems to be almost purely technical in nature. Good luck!

Because of circumstances I have one with Scottrade (have to call in for Canadian stocks) and Fidelity (check out their logo, lol). Though since one should be using limit orders I don't think the broker makes much of a distance. Also, for stocks that are really important I take the certificates so that they're entirely off the grid so to speak. Last thing I need is for the big crash to happen and I lose all my stock because I had it in some Scottrade account or something. It's to my thinking even more dangerous than holding valueables or money in the (state's) banks. By taking the certs only you and the company itself knows about the ownership, and with the metal only you know you own it.
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05-22-2007, 03:52 AM, (This post was last modified: 05-22-2007, 03:55 AM by rawgoatsmilk.)
#45
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Henry, have you ever heard of the venture resource group? They are into "alternative financial thinking". http://www.vrgroup.info. I don't know if you'd be interested in something like that. I joined them last year, but I don't recommend it, actually. I found their site interesting however, when I first encountered it.

I'm feeling quite discouraged at the moment. I just talked to my neighbor who lays cement. He says he makes between 200% and 300% return on everyone of his jobs; I've been in forex and I was proud that I made 60% return in the past 3 months, until now.
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