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Bees Are Dissapearing In Tn
06-02-2007, 08:42 AM,
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Bees Are Dissapearing In Tn
I talked with a man today at an estate auction that bought a lot of bee supplies that said his bees were dissapearing. I've seen a lot of bees this year and thought it was only bees commercially non organically raised but according to this guy his are too. He said for 50 years he had bees. Last year they started dissapearing but just a little above normal, not alarming. This year he was worried. He has went already from 100,000 to 40,000.
I asked him if he had any clue as to why and he said no, maybe cell phones and or people spraying chemicals and maybe some of the GM foods but wasn't sure. The only thing he said he was sure of was that they were just gone.
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06-02-2007, 07:34 PM,
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Bees Are Dissapearing In Tn
No one knows for sure. I've heard it might be EMF or pollen from BT corn. Any GE trees or crops in your state/area?
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06-15-2007, 04:39 AM,
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Bees Are Dissapearing In Tn
Quote:No one knows for sure. I've heard it might be EMF or pollen from BT corn. Any GE trees or crops in your state/area?

Yea, there is a lot of corn planted these last few years. Not sure what kind but more than usual. Plenty of GE trees these dayus as well.
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06-28-2007, 07:43 AM,
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Bees Are Dissapearing In Tn
I noticed the absence of bees here in middle TN as well. There were some at the beginning of the spring and then all of a sudden there were no bees. I saw and still see, plenty of wasps and even bumble bees but no honey bees.
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06-29-2007, 03:50 AM,
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Bees Are Dissapearing In Tn
Here in east Tn there seems a shortage of even wasps. I know the deep hard freeze we had after a few weeks of warm weather took it's toll but many other insects bounced back.
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06-29-2007, 04:15 AM,
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Bees Are Dissapearing In Tn
the last report i head on this was a fungus that was killing the bee's They are trying to prove this know.Let me see if I can find the research page for you guys.this is truly and bad sign which is why I looked into it in the first place but that was a while ago things could have changed.
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06-29-2007, 04:23 AM,
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Bees Are Dissapearing In Tn
Quote:the last report i head on this was a fungus that was killing the bee's They are trying to prove this know.Let me see if I can find the research page for you guys.this is truly and bad sign which is why I looked into it in the first place but that was a while ago things could have changed.


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06-29-2007, 02:06 PM,
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Bees Are Dissapearing In Tn
Coming from a family of beekeepers and sugarmakers, This Bee problem is quite unnerving. I've been asking alot of people about their problems. It would appear the news is doing a poor job of covering the fact this problem is hurting more commercial operations than private. And even less certified organic beekeepers are having problems.

The fungus is an old problem which is generally associated with mites. Commercial keepers and maybe uninformed private keepers use a standard honey comb cell size. This cell size is usually quite larger than necessary (bigger cells more honey is the misconception). I think very simply should you want to wall off a room and keep the contents of the room sterile; The less time it takes to build the wall the better the chances of no contamination of your food stores or larvae. So organic keepers that use a smaller more natural cell size have less of these outbreaks and are experiancing far less of the dissapperences.

I've also given magnetic pole shifts alot of thought. I don't think the dissaperance can be pointed at any one thing. I think it a accumulation of poor breeding stock and commercially breed dieseases and contaminants. But back to magnets. Take a big enough magnet and place it next to a wild hive and the bees will no longer be orient themselves when it comes to building or navigating. The combs no longer follow geometric standards and become all messed up and without order. Just a thought................
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06-30-2007, 03:14 AM,
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Bees Are Dissapearing In Tn
Quote:I've also given magnetic pole shifts alot of thought. I don't think the dissaperance can be pointed at any one thing. I think it a accumulation of poor breeding stock and commercially breed dieseases and contaminants. But back to magnets. Take a big enough magnet and place it next to a wild hive and the bees will no longer be orient themselves when it comes to building or navigating. The combs no longer follow geometric standards and become all messed up and without order. Just a thought................

That is interesting. Pole shifts. I know from reading here and there they say the poles have shifted somewhat. Do you think this a foreshadowing of a more extreme pole shift? Even without though I read mankind would last about 3 years without bees? You know it's funny but reading that it just didn't sink in until there were few around and seeing the effects. What's you take on that?
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06-30-2007, 04:15 AM,
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Bees Are Dissapearing In Tn
I believe the magnetic poles are always moving a little. Its the reversal that should mess with all types of life that uses it for various reasons. core samples etc say its happened before and obviously different species of the genus have survived.
As for the comment we wouldn't last 3 years without bees. Its pretty vague. The honeybees we have here in the US are "European honeybees" They came over with the jamestown invasion. Had they not most of the crops the europeans planted would have never fruited. Keep in mind they didn't even know that. The georgia peach, johnny appleseed nothing without the honey bee. So maybe it just depends on what you're willing to eat. I do fine storing tomatoes, potatoes, onions, corn. But I would miss my cukes, squash, peas and beans. If they are talking indirect by way of the food chain that may require more study. But I think short of clover(pollinater required) most livestock exists on wind pollinated grasses.
As for bee problems being brought to the publics general attention..... well it was 15 years ago I started hearing about the dreaded mites and fungal problems. Someone had to yell fire in the theatre though for the media to pick up on it. So now you keep hearing Einstein quoted. It just sounds the worst.
Theres also some interesting breakthroughs in understanding swarm intelligence. But what I read says the majority rules as far as actions are concerned, even the queen does not rule. So maybe they're all flying into a furnace chimney somewhere. Only a few of them would need to say its a good idea for them all to follow.
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06-30-2007, 06:25 AM,
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Bees Are Dissapearing In Tn
It's a shame that the media and governments do not respond quickly. Most people today know more about tv stars or shows than the world around them. Do you think GM & GE plants pose a harm to the bees? Studued have shown deer cross a field of franken corn to eat a natural field of corn. Einstein probably knew as you said before to get attention you have to yell fire into a room to get attention.
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06-30-2007, 01:42 PM,
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Bees Are Dissapearing In Tn
Thats funny because GE's main original location is in schenectady which is right around the corner. 20 min drive. Its responsible for almost all of the curent PCB's and pollutents and unemployment of days passed. Knolls atomic being the other. 40 years ago My father was taking a biology course at SCCC (schenectady community). Him and his lab partner thought testing the waters coming from the stream on the property to the Mohawk River would be a neat lab experiment. So after taking some photos and samples they were about to leave when they were detained by GE police. It was at this point they were taken into a basement and interrogated about selling turbines to russia etc..... Anyways GE eventually released them with the permission to use samples for a lab after veryifing identity. But absolute orders not to ever publish the information were also included. So I would assume 40 years ago GE knew exactly what it was pumping into the river. Its just within the last 5 years anybody has been able to hold them accountable. So if they're poisoning bees directly, indirectly, whatever some scientist knows it and some lawyer is perparing for it.
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