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Anyone Knew Satan Wasn't The One To Deceive Eve ?
06-27-2007, 11:16 AM,
#16
Anyone Knew Satan Wasn't The One To Deceive Eve ?
Quote:So your saying that Enoch says, the serpent has a name other than; satan "the accuser", dragon, devil, evil one, the prince of the power of the air, prince of this world, morning star, lucifer, ect..???

I never said that.

reread what i wrote

Quote:Or of course Gadreel could have been following satan's orders, a messenger or servant on satans behalf

yes, this is what i said. it MIGHT be true.

Quote:The titles applied to Enoch/Metatron sound surprisingly similar to those applied to the New Testament Satan.
yeah, thats why i find II Enoch to be fake, among other reasons...
Matthew 7:14
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

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06-27-2007, 03:58 PM,
#17
Anyone Knew Satan Wasn't The One To Deceive Eve ?
Quote:Acording to the book of Enoch, it was the angel Gadreel
Quote:and the third was named Gadreel; it is he who showed the children of men all the blows of death, and he led astray Eve,and showed the weapons of death to the sons of men

hmm ...

but satan is called
that old serpent, the devil, and dragon ...

in revelation

if it wasn't satan who used the serpent to deceive Eve, why call satan the old serpent ? does he have a fetish for long animals that crawl ?

I've read it.

I don't understand.

What exactly are you saying here, if not that satan or serpent has a name ???

That it was neither, satan or serpent ???

Does "he" have a long animals that crawl fetish ? - Is "he" God ?

I'm confused, Please rephrase
&Alice laughed, &There's no use trying,& she said: &one can't believe impossible things.& &I daresay you haven't had much practice,& said the Queen. &When I was your age I always did it for half-an-hour a day. Why, I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.&
- Lewis Carroll

&Things are seldom as they seem ... Skim milk masquerades as cream.&
- Gilbert and Sullivan (Pinafore)

At NASA, it really is rocket science, and the decision makers really are rocket scientists.
But a body of research that is getting more and more attention points to the ways that smart people working collectively can be dumber than the sum of their parts. .. Irwin Janis? &Groupthink:& is a mode of thinking that people engage in when they are deeply involved in a cohesive in-group, when the members' striving for unanimity override realistic appraisals ? It is the triumph of concurrence over good sense, and authority over expertise.&
-John Schwartz & Matthew L. Wade
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07-04-2007, 11:15 PM,
#18
Anyone Knew Satan Wasn't The One To Deceive Eve ?
Well as far as i know satan means THE ENEMY, and the name of satan is Lucifer. Gadreel sounds to me like a totally different name, referring to a different entity/being, i.e. angel. so acording to Enoch's book, it was a different (obviously fallen) angel that deceived Eve.
Matthew 7:14
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

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07-16-2007, 03:45 PM,
#19
Anyone Knew Satan Wasn't The One To Deceive Eve ?
Quote:Acording to the book of Enoch, it was the angel Gadreel
Quote:and the third was named Gadreel; it is he who showed the children of men all the blows of death, and he led astray Eve,and showed the weapons of death to the sons of men

hmm ...

but satan is called
that old serpent, the devil, and dragon ...

in revelation

if it wasn't satan who used the serpent to deceive Eve, why call satan the old serpent ? does he have a fetish for long animals that crawl ?

From my old (ancient) Bible study teacher---

The word 'serpent' as described in Genesis Chapter 3 is in Hebrew 'Nacaash' which means 'glistening one', 'the brightness', 'enchantment'. In Greek the word is 'Derkomai' meaning 'to fascinate' and it's also the root of the word dragon.

The word serpent is a figure of speech since snakes don't talk, ya know. :LOL:

The word 'touch' is used as a euphamisn. The original word in Hebrew is 'Naga' meaning to 'lie with a woman' This is seen clearly in the story of Lot's daughters.

*sigh*

I have all this typed out somewhere as a Bible study. If anyone is interested, I wouldn't mind posting it. Not if I'm gonna get called a cunt or a hoe as I saw in another thread in here.

I've read most of Enoch's book (I not II) and all I can say is that it has done nothing but confirm my beliefs. But discernment is a very individual thing & each of us has to do it on our own.

I wonder if there are any well read Jewish peeps here?
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07-16-2007, 04:59 PM,
#20
Anyone Knew Satan Wasn't The One To Deceive Eve ?
Quote:I have all this typed out somewhere as a Bible study. If anyone is interested, I wouldn't mind posting it. Not if I'm gonna get called a cunt or a hoe as I saw in another thread in here.

Please do , :cool: i'm interested in reading it , and wouldn't dare call you a cunt. :biggrin:

peace'
If Thine I that I spy with my own little I Doeth Offend thee ; Pluck It out.

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07-16-2007, 05:10 PM,
#21
Anyone Knew Satan Wasn't The One To Deceive Eve ?
Quote:
Quote:I have all this typed out somewhere as a Bible study. If anyone is interested, I wouldn't mind posting it. Not if I'm gonna get called a cunt or a hoe as I saw in another thread in here.

Please do , :cool: i'm interested in reading it , and wouldn't dare call you a cunt. :biggrin:

peace'

ditto
Vitam Impendere Vero
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07-16-2007, 11:16 PM,
#22
Anyone Knew Satan Wasn't The One To Deceive Eve ?
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:I have all this typed out somewhere as a Bible study. If anyone is interested, I wouldn't mind posting it. Not if I'm gonna get called a cunt or a hoe as I saw in another thread in here.

Please do , :cool: i'm interested in reading it , and wouldn't dare call you a cunt. :biggrin:

peace'

ditto

LOL! Ok.

Lemme go dig it up & spell/grammar check it once more....
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