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Ted Gunderson:Ex Officio COINTELPRO, De Facto COIN
08-19-2007, 11:14 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-19-2007, 11:20 PM by ephilution.)
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Ted Gunderson:Ex Officio COINTELPRO, De Facto COIN
Was Gunderson set loose in the truth community as a means of damage control by the TPTB?

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FYI: This report comes from Jackie McGauley, the primary whistleblower in the McMartin Preschool case. The Ex-FBI agent mentioned here is Ted L. Gunderson, former Senior SAC of the Los Angeles office.
I have spent many hours hearing Jackie's tesitmony via phone conversations and have studied many of the documents relating to the case. I have also done radio programs with Jackie, for the purpose of exposing Ted L. Gunderson's illegal activities, based on my personal knowledge as another person who had been hoodwinked by Gunderson during a three year period of working with him professionally (1997-2000).

For those concerned about the abuse of children by satanist elements in the gov't and their cronies (and I think EVERYONE should be, whether a parent or not) this case reveals the brutal truth about the extensive network of pedophiles, child pornography and prostitution --the victimization of innocent children by criminals who act with impunity to commit and cover up atrocities. It's high time these evil-doers are EXPOSED, arrested and jailed for their crimes against God and humanity.

Please circulate this widely, post and forward. For more information, contact Jackie McGauley.
Thank you for your consideration.
BH

Entire story:

http://barbarahartwell.blogspot.com/2007/0...intelro-de.html
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08-20-2007, 12:41 AM,
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Ted Gunderson:Ex Officio COINTELPRO, De Facto COIN
Great find, ephilution, thanks for posting up this very important information. I mentioned this on the radio show earlier today and I'm glad you delineated it here so people can investigate and unmask this cunning bastard for themselves.
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08-20-2007, 02:14 AM, (This post was last modified: 08-20-2007, 03:05 AM by solar.)
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Ken Adachi, friend of Ted Gunderson and webmaster for educate-yourself.org, gives his side of the story on the Gunderson/Hartwell affair at this link (which has more links on the affair).

Who is one to believe: Gunderson, Hartwell, Adachi, Tim White, Sue Ford (AKA Brice Taylor), Todd Brendan Fahey, et al. ?

Gunderson: former FBI ...

... Hartwell: is she or is she not former CIA ?

Does one ever "quit" said organizations ?

Perhaps they are all actors on the same stage paid for by the same theatre company sponsoring the stage play ...

... one hundred years ago, the Rockefellers were well known for such tactics.


Not only would they purchase whole state legislatures ...

... they would often purchase all persons involved with an issue that they wanted to manipulate, including people who were on opposite sides of the proverbial "fence".


This is what is insidious about government and/or corporate sponsored disinformation/"Cointelpro".

The same may apply to the WTC debate concerning thermite demolition versus "directed energy" demolition ...

... have all the players been "bought off", manipulated, "threatened", "pressured", etc. ?

Is the theatre company sponsoring the play the paymaster for all the actors on the stage ...

... and are we the intended audience of said stage play ?


The BCCI affair in the early nineties proved that most of Congress was massively influenced by BCCI money ...

... "both sides of the aisle", as Meryl Streep says in the 2004 version of THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE.

Thank you "phil" for posting this articlenk and initiating this thread (very important "food for thought" for everyone on this forum !) ...

... and thank you Hei Hu Quan for keeping alive on this forum the crucial issue of government and/or corporate sponsored disinformation/"Cointelpro" tactics !
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08-20-2007, 02:57 AM,
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Ted Gunderson:Ex Officio COINTELPRO, De Facto COIN
Speaking of disinformation/"Cointelpro" techniques ...

... "phil", Hei Hu Quan: have either of you seen the "fan edit" version of the first three episodes of the STAR WARS movies entitled THE FALL OF THE REPUBLIC ?

Full details at this link.

THE PHANTOM MENACE, ATTACK OF THE CLONES, and REVENGE OF THE SITH (over seven hours total in running time) have been re-edited into one three hour movie "prequel".

The "fan editor" states: "This is a much darker take on the rise of Darth Vader and the Fall of the Jedi Republic. Lots and lots of unnecessary scenes were cut to solely focus on what really matters: how did the dark side take over?"

A decent 4 gig version is on Mininova ...

... or you could obtain a higher res version via Rapidshare at this same link.

In my opinion, THE FALL OF THE REPUBLIC converts the STAR WARS "prequel" episodes into a very different viewing experience by focusing "on what really matters: how did the dark side take over?".

STAR WARS purists will have quibbles about what was eliminated and sequences that were re-ordered ...

... but the "edit" now brings into the forefront these very same disinformation/"Cointelpro" tactics.

If it has been a while since you viewed the STAR WARS prequels, and if you have the time ...

... check out THE FALL OF THE REPUBLIC.
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08-20-2007, 03:03 AM,
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Ted Gunderson:Ex Officio COINTELPRO, De Facto COIN
Nooooo. Not Gunderson. Damnit.
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08-20-2007, 03:22 AM,
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Ted Gunderson:Ex Officio COINTELPRO, De Facto COIN
All that talk about "satanists" and other bull never made any sense to me. From what I've read, LaVey's Satanism is complete nonsense. They're basically anti-christian cult that thinks religion is a joke and yet they wanna screw around with and profit from making fun of Christians. Satanic Bible is basically a very poorely written anti-religon manifesto with a lot of nonsense sprinkled in to make credulus afraid of them.

Gunderson was presenting these people as the real thing. That never made any sense to me and I could never figure it out why he's giving them so much publicity when they were obviously a joke. He was obviously shifting blame on someone/something.
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08-20-2007, 09:11 AM, (This post was last modified: 08-20-2007, 09:15 AM by Rod.)
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Quote:All that talk about "satanists" and other bull never made any sense to me. From what I've read, LaVey's Satanism is complete nonsense. They're basically anti-christian cult that thinks religion is a joke and yet they wanna screw around with and profit from making fun of Christians. Satanic Bible is basically a very poorely written anti-religon manifesto with a lot of nonsense sprinkled in to make credulus afraid of them.

Gunderson was presenting these people as the real thing. That never made any sense to me and I could never figure it out why he's giving them so much publicity when they were obviously a joke. He was obviously shifting blame on someone/something.


I’ve always viewed LaVey's Satanism as a kind of continuation of his Carnival days. He was an entertainer and stayed one till the day he died, his “Satanism” was nothing more than ritualistic hedonism. As opposed to the real stuff which thanks to him is seen as rather silly now (red horns and a tail costumes). I wonder if anyone has ever considered the possibility that LaVey was a Monarch/MK Ultra plant to reduce satanists to a harmless fraternity?

I’m not sure I buy into that blog post, but as I’m coming to find out here on ConCen its kind of refreshing to see prominent truth movement personalities presented in a manner less than flattering (even though its probably fallacious in this case - she’s a former spook, her word is suspect if she told me it was going to rain somewhere today).

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08-20-2007, 09:27 AM,
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Ted Gunderson:Ex Officio COINTELPRO, De Facto COIN
I've been thinking for a while, we need to compile a master list of all the alternative media personalities who've been found out as COINTELPRO operatives. It would certainly cut a lot of the bullshit that we see on a daily basis. I hate going around in circles... I like to get straight to the point, and I consider any COINTELPRO material as a waste of time, plain and simple, except to study COINTELPRO in action.

Of course, sitting here typing this, I'm aware that this could potentially open up a can of worms/the debate to end all debates. But hell, if we're not ruffling some feathers, then we're not trying hard enough, and this is one big circle jerk.
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08-20-2007, 01:17 PM,
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http://www.pehi.eu/dutroux/Belgian_X_dossi...roux_affair.htm
everything is true. nothing is permissible.
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08-20-2007, 02:34 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-20-2007, 02:36 PM by ephilution.)
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Ted Gunderson:Ex Officio COINTELPRO, De Facto COIN
Quote:Speaking of disinformation/"Cointelpro" techniques ...

... "phil", Hei Hu Quan: have either of you seen the "fan edit" version of the first three episodes of the STAR WARS movies entitled THE FALL OF THE REPUBLIC ?

Full details at this link.

THE PHANTOM MENACE, ATTACK OF THE CLONES, and REVENGE OF THE SITH (over seven hours total in running time) have been re-edited into one three hour movie "prequel".

The "fan editor" states: "This is a much darker take on the rise of Darth Vader and the Fall of the Jedi Republic. Lots and lots of unnecessary scenes were cut to solely focus on what really matters: how did the dark side take over?"

A decent 4 gig version is on Mininova ...

... or you could obtain a higher res version via Rapidshare at this same link.

In my opinion, THE FALL OF THE REPUBLIC converts the STAR WARS "prequel" episodes into a very different viewing experience by focusing "on what really matters: how did the dark side take over?".

STAR WARS purists will have quibbles about what was eliminated and sequences that were re-ordered ...

... but the "edit" now brings into the forefront these very same disinformation/"Cointelpro" tactics.

If it has been a while since you viewed the STAR WARS prequels, and if you have the time ...

... check out THE FALL OF THE REPUBLIC.
As always I appreciate your feedback solar. Yeah it occurred to me after I posted the above article that indeed Barbara Hartwell may be an effort by the intelligence community to try to discredit or even demonize Gunderson. Who knows? It may even be that the whole Gunderson vs Hartwell affair is set up as a distraction for the public and that in fact both sides answer to the same master. Who knows? All I can say is that further investigations are necessary before a sensible conclusion can be reached.

Cheers for the fan edit site, I had no clue of its existence. I will look into it. Pretty interesting material although I cannot say what the purpose or motive of the edits are just yet.
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08-20-2007, 02:38 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-20-2007, 03:34 PM by solar.)
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Quote:[...] The BCCI affair in the early nineties proved that most of Congress was massively influenced by BCCI money ...

... "both sides of the aisle", as Meryl Streep says in the 2004 version of THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE [...]
Quote:http://www.pehi.eu/dutroux/Belgian_X_dossi...roux_affair.htm
Thanks for the terrific link, monkeytribe23 !

The linked article you provided has an interesting "footnote", reference number "314".

[beginning of quote --]

(314) July 29, 1991, Time Magazine, 'The Dirtiest Bank of All':

B.C.C.I. is more than just a criminal bank.

From interviews with sources close to B.C.C.I., TIME has pieced together a portrait of a clandestine division of the bank called the "black network," which functions as a global intelligence operation and a Mafia-like enforcement squad.

Operating primarily out of the bank's offices in Karachi, Pakistan, the 1,500-employee black network has used sophisticated spy equipment and techniques, along with bribery, extortion, kidnapping and even, by some accounts, murder. The black network -- so named by its own members -- stops at almost nothing to further the bank's aims the world over.

The more conventional departments of B.C.C.I. handled such services as laundering money for the drug trade and helping dictators loot their national treasuries.

The black network, which is still functioning, operates a lucrative arms-trade business and transports drugs and gold. According to investigators and participants in those operations, it often works with Western and Middle Eastern intelligence agencies. The strange and still murky ties between B.C.C.I. and the intelligence agencies of several countries are so pervasive that even the White House has become entangled.

As TIME reported earlier this month, the National Security Council used B.C.C.I. to funnel money for the Iran-contra deals, and the CIA maintained accounts in B.C.C.I. for covert operations.

Moreover, investigators have told TIME that the Defense Intelligence Agency has maintained a slush-fund account with B.C.C.I., apparently to pay for clandestine activities ...

U.S. agents collaborated with the black network in several operations, according to a B.C.C.I. black-network "officer" who is now a secret U.S. government witness.

Sources have told investigators that B.C.C.I. worked closely with Israel's spy agencies and other Western intelligence groups as well, especially in arms deals. The bank also maintained cozy relationships with international terrorists, say investigators who discovered suspected terrorist accounts for Libya, Syria and the Palestine Liberation Organization in B.C.C.I.'s London offices ...

The Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in 1979 and the resulting strategic importance of neighboring Pakistan accelerated the growth of B.C.C.I.'s geopolitical power and its unbridled use of the black network ...

The bank was in a unique position to operate an intelligence-gathering unit because it dealt with such figures as Noriega, Saddam, Marcos, Peruvian President Alan Garcia, Daniel Ortega, contra leader Adolfo Calero and arms dealers like Adnan Khashoggi.

Its original purpose was to pay bribes, intimidate authorities and quash investigations. But according to a former operative, sometime in the early 1980s the black network began running its own drugs, weapons and currency deals.

"I was recruited by the black network in the early 1980s," says an Arab- born employee who has ties to a ruling family in the Middle East and has told U.S. authorities of his role in running one of the black units.

"They came to me while I was in school in the U.S.; they spoke my language, knew all of my friends and gave me money. They told me they wanted me to join the organization, and described its wealth and political power, but at first they never said exactly what the organization did ..."

The black network was the bank's deepest secret, but rumors of its activities filtered through the bank's managerial level with chilling effectiveness.

Senior bankers voice fears that they will be financially ruined or physically maimed -- even killed -- if they are found talking about B.C.C.I.'s activities ... Businessmen who pursued shady deals with B.C.C.I. are just as frightened.

"Look," says an arms dealer, "these people work hand in hand with the drug cartels; they can have anybody killed."

... Currently the black units have focused their scrutiny and intimidation on investigators. "Our own people have been staked out or followed, and we suspect tapped telephones," says a New York law-enforcement officer.

[end of quote]
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08-20-2007, 03:30 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-20-2007, 03:35 PM by solar.)
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Quote:[...] Yeah it occurred to me after I posted the above article that indeed Barbara Hartwell may be an effort by the intelligence community to try to discredit or even demonize Gunderson. Who knows? It may even be that the whole Gunderson vs Hartwell affair is set up as a distraction for the public and that in fact both sides answer to the same master. Who knows? All I can say is that further investigations are necessary before a sensible conclusion can be reached [...]
Yeah, disinformation/"Cointelpro" is annoying ...:angry:

... reminds one of the overused cliche: "Trust no one".:P

But you're thread is an important one (thanks again!) ...:)

... as you, Hei Hu Quan and Mifune have implied, we all need to be thinking about such tactics.B)
Quote:[...] Perhaps they are all actors on the same stage paid for by the same theatre company sponsoring the stage play ...

... one hundred years ago, the Rockefellers were well known for such tactics.


Not only would they purchase whole state legislatures ...

... they would often purchase all persons involved with an issue that they wanted to manipulate, including people who were on opposite sides of the proverbial "fence".


This is what is insidious about government and/or corporate sponsored disinformation/"Cointelpro" [...]
This "working hypothesis" of "answering to the same master" is what reminds one of the STAR WARS prequels ...

... and the Rockefeller manipulations.

These tactics have been used through out human history.
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08-20-2007, 05:35 PM,
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Ted Gunderson:Ex Officio COINTELPRO, De Facto COIN
Great and progressive thinking going on here, you all make great investigators employing use of logic, facts and non-emotionalism to get to the heart of the matter. This is what I'm talking about in terms of positive cohesion towards a central common goal. The truth will manifest itself through this type of diligence.

Gunderson is dirty and still an active agent in my opinion and research. His statements about SRA, cults and the lot are deliberately calculated to be so ridiculous and fantastic to discredit and protect the perpetrators. He never points to anything substantial to corroborate his wild claims that upon hearing, makes those seeking the truth to thorw the baby out with the bathwater. That tactic in itself is old school COINTELPRO and don't forget he wasn't just some low ranking field agent, Gunderson was a SAC (Special Agent in Charge) which means he assisted in the development of COINTELPRO techniques, PSYOPS and dirty black ops. I think since this material has generated some good interest that maybe I should draw up an investigational paper on him. From my research this intrepid little saboteur has cunningly betrayed and broken the hearts of family members who've either lost or had children suffer at the hands of genuine abusers. He's derailed the testimony of parents, mined for information central to cases and used it to undermine trials, poison concerned media and may have even supplied sensitive information to defence attorney's for the perpetrators.

I implore everyone to seek out and read about COINTELPRO and all the schemes, frame-ups, dirty tricks and blatantly illegal methods used by the FBI in particular and intelligence in general to destroy legitimate organizations and individuals seeking justice and political redress. You will be shocked to say the least and find that there was no depth they were not willing to go to achieve there goals.

Mifune's idea of a database or listing of documented COINTELPRO operatives and assets is a brilliant one. But one that must be done with discretion and verification. One tried and true COINTELPRO tactic that worked without fail was to 'bad-jacket' or 'snitch jacket' a prominent or influential member of a group by starting a rumour that he or she is an agent or informer. This would in turn produce a self-destructive chaos within the organization that would:

1) Have members accusing one another other of being agents. Real placed assets or agents within these organizations would then foment and exacerbate the situation for maximum chaos and disruption.

2) Split the organization into factions, and even spawn situations where those accused are beaten or eventually killed by angry, reactionary elements within the organization.

3) Castigate and neutralise progressive elements within the organization by bad jacketing, rumour and wild conjecture without investigation of the charges. This in turn, produces an effective atmosphere of fear, anger, distrust and destruction of morale that few groups can weather and survive intact. It is an internal sabotage technique to methodically destroy organizations from within.

The IllumiNazi's best weapon has always been fomenting division and disruption by use of emotionalism, prejudice and reaction. Our best strength lies in reason, objective judgement, unity, consolidation of skills and resources for deployment to the most effective areas of progressive action.

The more effective an organization becomes, the more it is strategically targeted for sustained COINTELPRO operations to disrupt and implode an organization from within. Learn from historical COINTELPRO documents on the tactics and logistics used and you'll be able to spot it developing and expose it. The footsoldiers of the Illuminazi and their lackeys will use tactics until they don't work anymore, then develop new and more riskier methods to achieve their final objectives. Be always vigilant.
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