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Is 'unity' what we really need?
09-02-2007, 12:25 PM,
#31
Is 'unity' what we really need?
Quote:http://sabotage.org/handbook/

You just know this site has federal monitoring... Seems like a more advanced version of the C.I.A.’s book of dirty tricks.
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09-02-2007, 01:09 PM, (This post was last modified: 09-02-2007, 01:26 PM by FighterFromAfar.)
#32
Is 'unity' what we really need?
Quote:Should make for a good Radio ConCen tonight
So far HHQ and about time DSB :biggrin: Mifune? Scott? Phil? others?


As for unity, as defined by the Ogster

When the shit hits the fan and it will, then you'll know your friends

I'm in.

EDIT: For the radio show tonight. Yeah, I'm in for the long haul as well, but I was talking about the radio show. :geek:
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09-02-2007, 01:49 PM,
#33
Is 'unity' what we really need?
Yes I heard a long time ago that if you have that cookbook you are immediately put on the FBI's 'list'.

It does have some great stuff tho. Napalm type sludge from gasolene and sponge. Thermite from rust. I had grest fun reading it when I first got it years ago.
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09-02-2007, 02:00 PM,
#34
Is 'unity' what we really need?
Quote:What would be an activist activity people could do that would be based from Con Cen? I was thinking of the times that Woken Sheep posted links to certain non-conspiratorial based forums to debate & expose 9/11, etc. to unawakened people, that would be something we could do regularly that could potentially wake up tens of thousands. I also thought it would be good to have an activism section on the board dedicated soley to doing stuff. I don't trust the regular 9/11 Truth groups & suspect that they're mostly or all infiltrated so I'm looking for options, some sort of a base to operate from & even though I haven't met any of you personally I'd trust most of you a lot more than I trust Philly 9/11 Truth with James Meigs' nephew as one of the head members.

I post on forums to try and generate discussion, it´s easier when there is more than one, makes you look less crazy. :crazy:
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09-02-2007, 08:01 PM,
#35
Is 'unity' what we really need?
Quote:
Quote:whose 'spitwad' is still sliding down the wall?

You really did lose a lot when you started shouting your nonsense.

Hello Archie,
what exactly is so stupid about talking about our options (if any) in terms of action? I take it being you didnt bother with reclaim the streets then. just stayed home being sarcy and wanking over the pictures in your John Major scrapbook was it? :biggrin:

:rofl:
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09-02-2007, 11:43 PM,
#36
Is 'unity' what we really need?
Quote:
Quote:What would be an activist activity people could do that would be based from Con Cen? I was thinking of the times that Woken Sheep posted links to certain non-conspiratorial based forums to debate & expose 9/11, etc. to unawakened people, that would be something we could do regularly that could potentially wake up tens of thousands. I also thought it would be good to have an activism section on the board dedicated soley to doing stuff. I don't trust the regular 9/11 Truth groups & suspect that they're mostly or all infiltrated so I'm looking for options, some sort of a base to operate from & even though I haven't met any of you personally I'd trust most of you a lot more than I trust Philly 9/11 Truth with James Meigs' nephew as one of the head members.

I post on forums to try and generate discussion, it´s easier when there is more than one, makes you look less crazy. :crazy:

I know of some political forums that would be prime for such infiltration. Reply if you or anyone else is in for doing so in the future.
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09-03-2007, 07:43 PM,
#37
Is 'unity' what we really need?
We are already unified with the biological system of life, wether we like it or not, we are one biological process connected and interacting, the hard part is understanding this connection.

I think of Unity as when humans realize this, that would certainly allow us great independance and freedom.

I don't see how it wouldn't.

The idea that we ARE seperate, gets in the way of the reality that we are not seperate.

Unity to some people here seems to be thought of more in term of some high moral and strict standard, that's not how I see it.

What does Unity mean to you all?
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09-03-2007, 08:56 PM,
#38
Is 'unity' what we really need?
Shoot, I love y'all, but I just want answers...and solutions.

For now I will just expose all who are guilty;)
Yo
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09-03-2007, 09:04 PM,
#39
Is 'unity' what we really need?
Quote:
Quote:We are already unified with the biological system of life, wether we like it or not, we are one biological process connected and interacting, the hard part is understanding this connection.

I think of Unity as when humans realize this, that would certainly allow us great independance and freedom.

I don't see how it wouldn't.

The idea that we ARE seperate, gets in the way of the reality that we are not seperate.

Unity to some people here seems to be thought of more in term of some high moral and strict standard, that's not how I see it.

What does Unity mean to you all?

everything is connected to everything. that's all very well - dick cheney is inseparable from you and you from me etc etc and us to plants stone water etc etc etc. we are stardust we are golden as Joanie Mitchell quoth. But such taoisty statements aren't going to help stop this great big fuck off war which around the corner. What your talking about is the most important stuff, sure. But what about getting our act together in terms of organising ourselves??



The fight is in the mind... it isn't out there.

When we succeed with that, it will be possible to organise and get our acts together.

We're dividing and labelling each other, and are all hung up on words and who's Good or Bad, Right and Wrong... Duality is the problem to be seen and overcome, the battle of duality is fought within.

Waking up to the insanity is only the first step, then you wake up to life where there is no duality.

Helping yourself in this way does not help Dick Cheney directly, but it does help the collective of which Cheney is apart of.
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09-03-2007, 10:24 PM,
#40
Is 'unity' what we really need?
Unity? Ain't gonna happen! A nice thought though. For many the fight is about "their" lot and interest in life, not yours.
One reason the war against racism (and sexism) cannot be won is that once a group is admitted to the club of &being white,& or being allowed, in the case of sexism, to use &the flawed white male model,& it already has learned all too well how to play the role of being superior to those still remaining outside those exclusive clubs. The real problem is that the illicit rewards, both tangible and intangible, in a racist and/or sexist society are so enormous that there is hardly any incentive to do otherwise.&
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09-04-2007, 12:21 AM,
#41
Is 'unity' what we really need?
Quote:
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Quote:We are already unified with the biological system of life, wether we like it or not, we are one biological process connected and interacting, the hard part is understanding this connection.

I think of Unity as when humans realize this, that would certainly allow us great independance and freedom.

I don't see how it wouldn't.

The idea that we ARE seperate, gets in the way of the reality that we are not seperate.

Unity to some people here seems to be thought of more in term of some high moral and strict standard, that's not how I see it.

What does Unity mean to you all?

everything is connected to everything. that's all very well - dick cheney is inseparable from you and you from me etc etc and us to plants stone water etc etc etc. we are stardust we are golden as Joanie Mitchell quoth. But such taoisty statements aren't going to help stop this great big fuck off war which around the corner. What your talking about is the most important stuff, sure. But what about getting our act together in terms of organising ourselves??



The fight is in the mind... it isn't out there.

When we succeed with that, it will be possible to organise and get our acts together.

We're dividing and labelling each other, and are all hung up on words and who's Good or Bad, Right and Wrong... Duality is the problem to be seen and overcome, the battle of duality is fought within.

Waking up to the insanity is only the first step, then you wake up to life where there is no duality.

Helping yourself in this way does not help Dick Cheney directly, but it does help the collective of which Cheney is apart of.

of course its wonderful to find the expansiveness of empty intelligent space in the present moment free from the dualities we mire ourselves in. Taking a grander cosmic perspective to our experience of life, the buddhist/taoist way is, I agree, deeper to the root of our life experience,reality...but it doesn't negate the urgency of needing to organise in these times. For we can all spend time on ourselves in this way - in fact, as I said it's all important, though right now we are being led by the nose into a big fuck off war and it strikes me that we really need to resist for the sake of life itself. Ultimately, you may be right in suggesting, there is no them and us or easily defined concepts of good bad etc. However, working on oneself only goes so far before it becomes indulgent - there's no real validity in these times in the total detatchment of going up the mountain to contemplate in the cave. You are in the position of seeing through much of the veil of samsara and as such, I contend you have a duty to help others that in this moment are less spiritually fortunate. Even if it were something like organising free meditation classes with onus of dissolving the illusions of the matrix.

peace bro, Nik

Thanks for helping me to understand your thoughts, I agree for the most part. Except for, I think that "working on oneself" COULD become indulgent only if your aim was for the betterment of yourself, which as you have realised, wouldn't help anything. Learning how to be the mirror is effective because it allows others to see themsleves more clearly and will help people that are the mirror to see all others with the sense that they are the same in all being (unity).

I think the unknown, different views and conspiracy theories DO help open people's reality tunnels.... but it is only one method of awakening, and does not work for everyone, as you know. I'm trying a different method only because I have witnessed that this unity "phenomenon" is real and can happen right NOW as we sit here without years of research. Before people's reality tunnels are open, it is harder to get the messages and information across, isn't it?, I have struggled with that for years, I guess I don't concentrate on the exposing route as much (because I'm not so technical and facty when I explain things). Most People reject what they fear or can't feel. I understand the sense of urgency you have, I can assure you, I'm doing what I can... I have often thought of starting free meditation classes... and right now I am involved in silencing and debunking the PR in my city... that has met with much scrutinty as expected.

I'm your sis, bro, just so ya know:)... could be another reason why I am more passively inclined to be emitting a promotion for all things natural including universal love, I think it helps to take a different people unplugging route... even if that means promoting unity sometimes, though the word has been trivialized... it doesn't mean it isn't real. You don't even need to know the word to feel it.

I think the methods both work equally well, and I think they need each other to succeed for everything.
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09-04-2007, 12:38 AM,
#42
Is 'unity' what we really need?
Quote:Unity? Ain't gonna happen! A nice thought though. For many the fight is about "their" lot and interest in life, not yours.

This is a good example of how many people think of it as duality... just by mentioning "the fight" it's clear. There is also an mention of The Ego when Blackthor mentions that it's about "their own" lot. That is the key challenge, to not think of it as "yours" or something separate from you.

When people are in the grasp of the ego, or "doing things for themselves and thinking about themselves" and that they are in fact, in a fight... most will try to do their best to insure that their "good side" wins... something that conspiracy theorists should be very careful about.

I can see that most people here understand this, but some don't, they are still fighting their fight, the fight of their ego, that's why it is easier to see the truth in a "conspiracy" when you can actually see the duality first.

But either way... it's all helping.
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09-04-2007, 12:53 AM, (This post was last modified: 09-04-2007, 01:00 AM by FighterFromAfar.)
#43
Is 'unity' what we really need?
I like your philosophy, resonate. Yes, the struggle is perhaps more internal than it is external.

Are you familiar with the work of G. I. Gurdjieff?

http://www.cassiopedia.org/wiki/index.php?...G._I._Gurdjieff

Interesting avatar. Alice down the rabbit hole, looking back at us?
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09-04-2007, 01:15 AM, (This post was last modified: 09-04-2007, 01:20 AM by blove8..)
#44
Is 'unity' what we really need?
Yup, your philosophy resonates well with me as well ~resonate~. :smile:

For all of you who have contributed to this thread, I appreciate it muchly. Thank you. :wink:
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09-04-2007, 01:50 AM,
#45
Is 'unity' what we really need?
Quote:
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Quote:We are already unified with the biological system of life, wether we like it or not, we are one biological process connected and interacting, the hard part is understanding this connection.

I think of Unity as when humans realize this, that would certainly allow us great independance and freedom.

I don't see how it wouldn't.

The idea that we ARE seperate, gets in the way of the reality that we are not seperate.

Unity to some people here seems to be thought of more in term of some high moral and strict standard, that's not how I see it.

What does Unity mean to you all?

everything is connected to everything. that's all very well - dick cheney is inseparable from you and you from me etc etc and us to plants stone water etc etc etc. we are stardust we are golden as Joanie Mitchell quoth. But such taoisty statements aren't going to help stop this great big fuck off war which around the corner. What your talking about is the most important stuff, sure. But what about getting our act together in terms of organising ourselves??



The fight is in the mind... it isn't out there.

When we succeed with that, it will be possible to organise and get our acts together.

We're dividing and labelling each other, and are all hung up on words and who's Good or Bad, Right and Wrong... Duality is the problem to be seen and overcome, the battle of duality is fought within.

Waking up to the insanity is only the first step, then you wake up to life where there is no duality.

Helping yourself in this way does not help Dick Cheney directly, but it does help the collective of which Cheney is apart of.

of course its wonderful to find the expansiveness of empty intelligent space in the present moment free from the dualities we mire ourselves in. Taking a grander cosmic perspective to our experience of life, the buddhist/taoist way is, I agree, deeper to the root of our life experience,reality...but it doesn't negate the urgency of needing to organise in these times. For we can all spend time on ourselves in this way - in fact, as I said it's all important, though right now we are being led by the nose into a big fuck off war and it strikes me that we really need to resist for the sake of life itself. Ultimately, you may be right in suggesting, there is no them and us or easily defined concepts of good bad etc. However, working on oneself only goes so far before it becomes indulgent - there's no real validity in these times in the total detatchment of going up the mountain to contemplate in the cave. You are in the position of seeing through much of the veil of samsara and as such, I contend you have a duty to help others that in this moment are less spiritually fortunate. Even if it were something like organising free meditation classes with onus of dissolving the illusions of the matrix.

peace bro, Nik

Thanks for helping me to understand your thoughts, I agree for the most part. Except for, I think that "working on oneself" COULD become indulgent only if your aim was for the betterment of yourself, which as you have realised, wouldn't help anything. Learning how to be the mirror is effective because it allows others to see themsleves more clearly and will help people that are the mirror to see all others with the sense that they are the same in all being (unity).

I think the unknown, different views and conspiracy theories DO help open people's reality tunnels.... but it is only one method of awakening, and does not work for everyone, as you know. I'm trying a different method only because I have witnessed that this unity "phenomenon" is real and can happen right NOW as we sit here without years of research. Before people's reality tunnels are open, it is harder to get the messages and information across, isn't it?, I have struggled with that for years, I guess I don't concentrate on the exposing route as much (because I'm not so technical and facty when I explain things). Most People reject what they fear or can't feel. I understand the sense of urgency you have, I can assure you, I'm doing what I can... I have often thought of starting free meditation classes... and right now I am involved in silencing and debunking the PR in my city... that has met with much scrutinty as expected.

I'm your sis, bro, just so ya know:)... could be another reason why I am more passively inclined to be emitting a promotion for all things natural including universal love, I think it helps to take a different people unplugging route... even if that means promoting unity sometimes, though the word has been trivialized... it doesn't mean it isn't real. You don't even need to know the word to feel it.

I think the methods both work equally well, and I think they need each other to succeed for everything.

Nice one resonate sis, keep up the good fight! ( jk :grin: ).

Holy Moly another rare female on our boards!

Treat her right gentlemen, she's an asset as we need her perspectivel. Less testosterone often produces different results.;)
Yo
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