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BOE VS US FED
10-30-2007, 06:42 PM,
#1
BOE VS US FED
I am completly aware of the american economic situation as there is soo much information out there.

but i struggle to find out anything about the true economic situation in the uk.

does the english goverment have a debt ?
i can only assume that the goverment lend money from the BOE but where does the monarchy and its so called wealth come into it.

legalality of tax ?
ive read/watchedstened to various stuff on this topic regarding the US FED but i wonder how it is in the uk.

if anyone has any information on the uk monetary system please share it.

thanks
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11-01-2007, 12:20 AM,
#2
BOE VS US FED
Get the big picture of what money has become and you will know where we are going

Quote:In 1913 the U.S., UK, portugal, spain and France declared bankrupcy and all assets including birth certificates of citizens were signed over as collateral and all soveriengty was lost. You are de-facto slaves and property of the world bankers.

The Ron Paul Revolution is about ending that slavery. Learn the truth about the 1913 bankrupcy. You were born into slavery. Here is America's story. Just search under Bankrupt 1913. It's all there in public record. When you tell people this they will first label you a loon. But, it is nevertheless true. This is why the bank owned media are trying so hard to discredit and censure Ron Paul.
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On the night of December 23, 1913 the United States Congress passed the Federal Reserve Act and thereby committed the greatest act of TREASON in history. It surrendered this nation's sovereignty and sold the American people into slavery to a cabal of arch-charlatan international bankers who proceeded to plunder, bankrupt, and conquer this nation with a money swindle.

The "money" the banks issue is merely bookkeeping entries. It cost them nothing and is not backed by their wealth, efforts, property, or risk. It is not redeemable except in more debt paper. The Federal Reserve Act forced us to pay compound interest on thin air. We now use worthless "notes" backed by our own credit that we cannot own and are made subject to compelled performance for the "privilege."

From 1913 until 1933, the United States paid the "interest" with more and more gold. The structured inevitability soon transpired: the Treasury was empty, the debt was greater than ever, and the United States declared bankruptcy. In exchange for using notes belonging to bankers who create them out of nothing on our own credit, we are forced to repay in substance (labor, property, land, businesses, resources - life) in ever-increasing amounts. This may be the greatest heist and fraud of all time.

When a government goes bankrupt, it loses its sovereignty. In 1933 the United States declared bankruptcy, as expressed in Roosevelt's Executive Orders 6073, 6102, 6111, and 6260, House Joint Resolution 192 of June 5, 1933, confirmed in Perry v. United States, (1935) 294 U.S. 330-381, 79 L.ed 912, as well as 31 USC 5112, 5119, and 12 USC 95A.

The bankrupt United States went into receivership, reorganized in favor of 115 creditors and new owners. In 1913, Congress turned over America... lock, stock and barrel to a handful of criminals whose avowed intent from the beginning was to plunder, bankrupt, conquer, and enslave the people of the United States of America and eliminate this nation from the face of the earth. The goal was, and is, to absorb America into a one-world private commercial government, a "New World Order."

With the Erie R.R. v Tompkins case of 1938, the Supreme Court confirmed their success. We are now in an international private commercial jurisdiction in colorable admiralty-maritime under the Law Merchant. We have been conned and betrayed out of our sovereignty, rights, property, freedom, common law, Article III Courts, and... our Republic. The Bill of Rights has been statutized into "civil rights" in commerce.

America has been stolen. We have been made slaves, i.e. permanent debtors, bankrupt, in legal incapacity, rendered commercial "persons," "residents," and corporate franchisees known as "citizens of the United States" under the so-called "14th Amendment." Said "Amendment," which was never ratified - see Congressional Record, June 13, 1967; Dyett v. Turner, (1968) 439 P2d 266, 267; State v. Phillips, 1975 (affirmed) - created a citizenship for corporations, abstract statutory entities which are the products and definitions of the legislature and are fully taxable and regulatable thereby. Thomas Jefferson's prophecy has come to pass: "If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of currency... the banks... will deprive the people of all property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."

Since 1933 what is called the "United States Government" is a privately owned corporation of the Federal Reserve/IMF. It is merely an instrument whereby the banksters administer their ongoing subjugation and plunder of what was once considered "the last great hope of human freedom." All "public servants," officials, Congressmen, politicians, judges, attorneys, law enforcement officers, States and their various agencies, etc., are the express agents of these foreign principals - see Foreign Agents Registration Act of 1938; 22 USC 286 et seq, 263A, 185G, 267J, 611© (ii) & (iii); Treasury Delegation Order #91 - who have stolen the country by clever, intentional, and unrelenting fraud, trickery, treachery, non-disclosure, mis-representation, intrigue, coercion, conspiracy, murder (example: the murder of President John F. Kennedy and the continuing cover-up), etc. If there is a greater tragedy in human history it is hard to know what it is.

An insidious aspect of this is that "officials" like you may think you are "public servants," or upholding the "law," or other hoaxes. In truth you are conscientiously and assiduously serving the arch-enemies of yourselves, your own rights, your fellow citizens, continued... human rights, life, and freedom in general. YOU are seditiously administering the plunder, bankruptcy, conquest, destruction, dismantling, and elimination of your country. YOU are systematically defrauding, extorting, impoverishing, and injuring human life on the basis of crimes and lies of such magnitude, depth, and proportions as to be beyond human comprehension.

By so doing, you are committing TREASON and PERFIDY so immense as "to make the angels weep." If you and your fellow "officials" do not understand the real situation, you are ignorant, naive, deceived, and conned. You are sheer dupes. If you do know and are parties to it, you are guilty of evil and heinous BETRAYAL. You are in such case TRAITORS and CRIMINALS. All of you "in power" are therefore, either fools or knaves, either of which eminently invalidates your "authority" and renders null and void absolutely all moral obligation to pay allegiance or to obey the TREASONOUS SYSTEM you enforce with such mechanical viciousness.

If, you, "public servants" had any shred left of humanity, awe, heart, clarity, sanity, access to your true being and conscience, you would instantly resign and do everything possible to inform the American people of their plight and help us retrieve our rights and our country. Only by such means can you even begin to atone for your endless crimes against humanity, the lives you so arrogantly and mindlessly butcher with the "meat-grinder of the law."

You DID NOT CREATE the lives you "legally" assault; they DO NOT belong to you. Ignorance of the law - moral and natural law - is no excuse. You cannot engage in bringing harm to life and, like the Nazi's defense at Nuernberg, presume that because you do so under the "authority" of an imaginary, abstract, unreal legal fiction called "government" you are freed of the consequences of your acts. Moral and natural law are not obviated by ignorance, hubris and self-righteous militancy. Your entire system - from the ground up - is deceit and fraud. It is illicit in essence and ab initio. As Broom's Maxims 297, 729 put it: "A right of action cannot arise out of fraud." Honor is earned by honesty and integrity, not under false and fraudulent pretenses. The color of the cloth one wears cannot cover up the usurpations, lies, and treachery. "When black is fraudulently declared to be white, not all will live in darkness."

More and more people are awakening to the truth. What do you think the American people will do as they discover that they have no more country, that they are slaves to mortal enemies, that they have been tricked and betrayed by their "leaders" who sold them out? what do you think they will do when they realize that all their alleged "public servants" are willing or stupidly compliant parties to the plunder, bankruptcy, subjugation, and ruin of their lives and country?

Thomas Jefferson wrote: "An honest man can feel no pleasure in the exercise of power over his fellow citizens." Lincoln said: "Just as I would not be a slave, neither would I be a master." I will not participate in your corrupt, arrogant, and cruel fraud, either as perpetrator or victim. The great Indian poet Tagore wrote: "Power takes as ingratitude the writhing of its victims."

I will no longer sit here and writhe. The TYRANNY over this nation MUST END! If you continue with this course, you will have natural and moral law and higher powers to answer to, not to mention all those you have wronged under phony color of law. You will also have your own laws turned against you, as you have turned the law against us. To transform the shield of protection into a sword of exploitation, subjugation, and plunder is perfidy. You have now been placed on notice. All further actions on your part will be willful!
9/11 was an inside job and the economy is going into meltdown so keep some spare food put by just in case justice is right.
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11-05-2007, 02:48 PM,
#3
BOE VS US FED
im aware of the american situation but was more interested in the bank of englands BOE role in all this, as ive heard from other sources that the BOE is still actually running the show.
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11-21-2007, 12:36 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-21-2007, 12:36 PM by nataraja.)
#4
BOE VS US FED
im surrprised that no one has anything to say about this?

recently boe lent northern rock £24 billion (£900 per citizen in taxes)

now how does this affect me as a citizen, and would it be true to say that tax in uk is no more legal than it is in the usa, only the laws are different so it appears more legal.

i want somone to make a documentry or supply me with a good link on the true history of uk banking and the current state of it all. (please) (thanks)

bump!
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11-25-2007, 08:54 AM,
#5
BOE VS US FED
Basically (from what i gather) the BOE was the blue print for all of the other central banks, world-wide. whether that means the BOE is running the show today is up for debate, it certainly has influence it depends on how deep that influence goes.

The northern rock issue cause much controversy including Mervin Kings decision to bail the bank out, I suspect this was to avoid a cascade effect with other UK banks requiring assistance. There is still more bad news on the way for US financial markets and oil will go over $100 a barrel before the year is out - more foreclosures and people living below the breadline (1 in 6 New Yorkers finds it hard to put food on the table at the moment)

I don't think this would happen in the UK but we aren't self sufficient and import lots of what we consume. if you're worried stock up on tins of beans and vitamin tablets.

for a documentary check out The Money Masters it should be on the tracker.
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Generations have been working in jobs they hate, just so they can buy what they don't really need.&
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11-26-2007, 12:53 PM,
#6
BOE VS US FED
yeh ive watched that documentry a few times now.

:)

it has good info about the true history of money, but i was just wondering about the current state of the BOE.
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