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11-18-2007, 08:07 PM,
I too have had many more good experiences while tripping than bad and I put that down to the fact that I used to take heaps of zanax if I started to get anxious (not the purple ones - the white ones). Unfortunately I did freak out a couple of times like when watching faces of death and there were also a few instances where serious situations arose and I wish I was more in control (like having to punch on whilst tripping and seeing my friend get stabbed). I believe that halucinagens can amplify bad experiences and feel that great care must be taken to ensure a safe, controlled environment. As for being permanently scarred, dunno. I suffer from anxiety, insomnia, depression, etc which may partly be a result of bad trips but is most likely due to withdrawals from benzo's, opiates, THC, nicotene,etc (4years on) and the aftermath of heavy amphetamine abuse. With all the harsh realities that we are faced with on the tracker I can see why you guys would want to escape but I think we have a better chance of changing things if we face them head on. I know some if not all of you will say that escapism is not your motivation but after much contemplation, this view may change. I honestly do hope you all stay safe and have nothing but good experiences and I wish I had your self control when I was a kid.
11-18-2007, 09:10 PM,
that avatar's no way near as ghey :tongue:

I've never really had a really bad trip...I've had some ropey comedowns though and agree with psilocybin that it's all about keeping on and coming through the other side wiser and intact.

For me, after a few experiences I realised that all trips were up and down LOL. All dependent on what were going on around and inside. For sure, environment is ultimately the key. I've been in a few ropey situations whilst tripping though luckily never saw something like a friend getting stabbed. Something like that is bound to turn the whole trip into a pretty grim time but speaking generally of twisted moments, things are there and then they are not. I would never say I have had a totally great trip without any edgy moments whatsoever and never a bad one without some great time too.but maybe that's just me. Confrontation with one's own shadow when it happens can be tough news but it's surely worth it and you know full well you've bought the ticket come what may so with that in mind (as well as LSD) I think it's best to just go with it with a psychonautic in/out look. I never watched faces of death but I did watch phantasm with a swimming brain and that were pretty fucked up at the time. I've seen some friends crashing and burning in the city when it gets on top of them but just to go somewhere less full on and within some minutes or so all is well again.Tripping in the Metropolis is more condusive to people freaking than the countryside for sure.
11-19-2007, 08:00 AM,
The only time I ever did mushrooms I had a really good time but then much later like months I actually had an episode where it wasn't exactly a flashback to tripping just a nervous rush in a social situation I was intimidated by I guess & a reaction to it being in my system or something. It's hard to explain & someone probably want to tell me that it wasn't from the mushrooms & that that's impossible in a matter-of-factly manner but it was. I do kind of like lsd better though i did have an uncomfortable trip on it once. I wouldn't say bad for the reasons already stated in this thread, just uncomfortable. I kind of like smoking really good weed better than anything, dunno. Though I like tripping. Maybe I just had some rough times before & need to get back into it. It might be cooler now that I'm a few years older (was around 18-20 before)
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11-19-2007, 08:36 AM,
"Don't use drugs to find yourself or analyse yourself. Let a priest do that."
if there is there a small wad of the good stuff stuffed up the eye of your cock ,,,,,,,,,,,but hang on, that means cumming twice so your partner can be tripping by the time you come again .
it`s someware in the 1000 n` 1 things to do with highly concentrated hallucinogens."the love shot" or something like that.
does salvia have a quantum side to it that other drugs don`t have ?
11-19-2007, 02:27 PM,
ive been doing mdma for years, i do alot more mdma than anything else other than weed and alcohol ofcourse, but mdma will always be my fav non psychedelic drug, unless we can discover some other old synthesised chemicals or shulgin releases a new one.

i did his 2c-7 2c-e back in south africa on these massive blotter, bigger than a stamp. one was a triptamine the other was an mdma derivitive. very very strong and very very cool. but there was 3 kinds i had but i didnt take the other way, cause it was ment to be a strong triptamine and i was too scared, after seeing people at a new years festival walking around naked talking about climbing inside the trees and that they created the party. it was funny but not realy.

anyway. mdma is nice. in south africa we get alot better pure mdma then in london, london has this crystal stuff, in sa we get this pure powder mdma produced locally. that stuff is cheap potent and you get alot. here its weak expensive and bad quality.

but in south africa there is a chemical virus infecting the land which is called crystal meth i did this for about 4 years before i went psycotic and stabbed a guy in the neck, i got 10 months of rehab and a £4000 fine...not fun... but hey this shit happens, you didnt hear the entire story which you would probaly say that the guy deserved to be stabbed.

but maybe ill write a book someday about it... who knows...

but hey all that life is, is experience, experience builds character.
11-19-2007, 02:32 PM,
ive never done dmt, but i smoked salvia alot, i love that stuff, i always just have to remind myself to shutup and sit down though or all i stand up and walk around jabbing on about nothing like im a crazy man.

so it works best when sitting down with your mouth shut, atleast for 10 mins after smoking it.

i used to sell mushrooms so ive done more shrooms than lsd, in south africa i can buy 100grams for R800 (dried), 2 grams and you trip your face off, so thats 50 hits for R800 which is less than £80, i would sell them for R60 for 2 grams so i would make R3000 thats a big profit, go to a festival in cape town, and sell all 100grams in 30 mins, spend the rest of the party taking 8 grams over 12 hours and walk out with R3000, this is how i grew up in south africa, terrible terrible... no wonder i fucked out eh...
11-19-2007, 05:26 PM,
I have to say that I know very little about some of the things you guys are talking about like salvia, ayahuasca, etc, it just isn't heard of around here. Luckily there has never been a crack rock here either to my knowledge and cocaine is very hard to get. Meth is starting to be a bit of a problem now but nowhere near as bad as The States, the speed here is usually just the old fashioned powdered shit that smells like sour apple lollies. Last I heard though, we were the heroin-death capital of the world which is probably due to our close proximity to the 'Golden Triangle' although much of it does come from Afghanistan via Pakistan. MDMA is nowhere near as common since the rave scene collapsed and most of the old school ravers are now on heroin. We do however have some of the best weed in the world, I have friends who went to the States and said it was impossible to get good weed, apparently most of it was seedy brown shit called 'Shwag' or something and what they considered to be good was not much better and was called 'Kind Bud'. I used to grow some shit that would make your fucking eyes bleed. I laugh at the winner of the cannabis cup each year because the shit that I grew was far more potent, the ovaries were so covered in large mushroom shaped crystals that you couldn't see any green, I have photos but they are in poster form and I don't know where the negatives are. I was even thinking of writing a book on growing it as the only books out at the time were by Ed Rosenthal & Mel Frank and both of them were wrong about many things (like the N-P-K ratio for one). I am happy to let you in on some of my growing methods if you like.

I was curious if any of you guys had ever tried flygaric mushrooms, I know of a place where they grow but I've never been brave enough to try them, the only ones I ever had were the gold tops.
11-20-2007, 01:46 AM,
Quote:I have friends who went to the States and said it was impossible to get good weed, apparently most of it was seedy brown shit called 'Shwag' or something and what they considered to be good was not much better and was called 'Kind Bud'.
That is indeed the two-tiered system of cannabis in the states. Now as much as everyone knocks shitty weed, and everyone loves good weed, my experience has been that while obviously better weed is better, crappy weed can have merits of its own. I spent a couple years living in eastern Canada before living with my parents in Ohio for a few months while transitioning to Vancouver. It was probably my heaviest volume consumption rate while living in Ottawa, as there is nothing to do but freeze your ass off there, and I was smoking good bud grown in the mountains of the Albertan/British Columbian border. When I returned home to Ohio I was forced to revert to calling high school buddies to score shwag.

American shwag comes in a few "grades." The lowest is brown frown. This is the worst type of weed. I've never bought the worst of this weed before, but I've gotten some weak bags. The next worst is what my friends and I dubbed "plant matter." Plant matter is extra leafy, dark green weed low in THC. It doesn't have many merits. Often, when you break up the buds, you'll find a third of the bag weight in big beautiful seeds. Nice if you want to grow mutated bulk weed.

The best shwag is often very sticky, has red hairs, few seeds, maybe a dozen or so to an ounce, is crystalline but hardly, and often fluffy. This is what I smoked once returning home. I found it still got me very stoned and I enjoyed it a lot. In America, this is probably the most economic bud, as I've found it for 100/oz or 60/half, where as the "kind bud" you described can run you 300/oz or more. Most American shwag is a compressed version of what I just described that may or may not have sat around for a while.

As far as kind bud goes in the states, I won't defend how ridiculously over-priced it is. That in mind I've gotten it for pretty cheap before in the past, nearly half as much as a tourist or occasional smoker might pay. Good connections are important in the states, and most good bud distributors don't just give out their number. After all, well grown weed anywhere is going to be amazing. Grown properly in the States it will compare to anywhere else in the world, and I still say that now living in Vancouver smoking some bud I wouldn't dream of buying consistently in the States.

I only rant because the States gets a bad rap when it comes to weed all the time and I honestly found being forced back into shwag wasn't that big of a deal. Just buy an oz of shwag for 100-120 bucks and ask the dealer for an oz of shake for 50-80. Take these two ozs and roll enourmous blunts, smoke them, and repeat. That's the only way to get it done. Big blunts after big blunts.

Quote:I was curious if any of you guys had ever tried flygaric mushrooms, I know of a place where they grow but I've never been brave enough to try them, the only ones I ever had were the gold tops.
I've never tried them but I am eager to try. That being said, I've read a shit load on aminitas and from what I've read there are many very poisonous doppleganger aminitas so I'd be careful about consuming them. If you know they're good then I'd give it a try. They are supposed to be much more "shamanistic" than psilocybes, and reindeer eat them to trip out!
&We grow to recognize form. We grow to label that form. In doing so, do we become more intelligent? Do we become more awakened?& - Siji Tzu 四季子
11-20-2007, 12:37 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-20-2007, 12:38 PM by nataraja.)
fast first mushroom experience i was 15 and i had what some might consider a bad trip, it wasnt all that bad, i just was not mentally ready for it, i was so fucked comming on that i honestly saw what looked like cartoon faces in the trees, i have never again seen visuals like that.

but i couldnt handle it so i went and lay in my tent for the rest of the night.

i read george cervantis book on indoor growing, it was a great book and also studied alot from (RIP):(

its also realy easy and cheap to grew shrooms compared to bud, if i grow bud i will need to spend £200 for a decent setup, and thats for a like 10 plants max. compared to shrooms where all you realy need is a pressure cooker a spore syringe and some containers and jars.
11-20-2007, 03:59 PM,
"if i grow bud i will need to spend £200 for a decent setup"

If you know what you're doing, outdoor is better, unless you're 'gorilla farming'. Don't know about England though, not much Sun there.
11-21-2007, 10:51 AM, (This post was last modified: 11-21-2007, 10:51 AM by triplesix.)
Get into the 21st century. This set up can't cost you more than $150. If you've never tried this method before, expect two failed runs. Well, expect a 50% or less survival rate on your first two runs I should say. On the plus side, once mastered, you'll cut the entire life cycle in half.

Seriously, this is virtually unbelievable until you see it.

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&We grow to recognize form. We grow to label that form. In doing so, do we become more intelligent? Do we become more awakened?& - Siji Tzu 四季子
11-21-2007, 12:27 PM,
nah you see after growing back in south africa and taking it a bit too far i have a standard of growing too which i dont think i could be happy with anything less.

i have to have 600w hps and mh and specific medium, right extrator fans intake fans, some things i can bend on or get less but it will cost me £200 including some quality seeds that is..:)

but i can grow hydro as well, but i wouldnt, i would grow in a soiless mix of coca moir and perlite, perfect retention and drainage.:)
11-21-2007, 12:29 PM,
Of course, the seeds. Those little bastards can be expensive, if you have expensive tastes anyway.
&We grow to recognize form. We grow to label that form. In doing so, do we become more intelligent? Do we become more awakened?& - Siji Tzu 四季子
11-21-2007, 01:35 PM,
even diy aeroponics are formidible enough to someone just wanting to try and grow a bit of herb who never had done that beforeIt doesn't have to be so full on. man can get a few "curly whirley" eco bulbs 80w value for 12w or so. get about 3min per plant or so ( or a compact son-t w/blue spec.flouro 200w is better and still in the cheap end)and buy some OK quality indica dominant seeds ( 7-8 weeks flowering or so). find a friendly cupboard, paint the inside white, buy a little desk fan - stick it in there and then be prepared to burn a fair amount of essential oils from about 4-5 weeks in. learn how to sprout, plant a few seeds. Veg them (grow with light 18-20hours a day) hang the bulbs around the plants - hook em to top side of cupboard.Transfer young plants to 5ltr. or so pots with normal household potting soil ( about ph7) feed them with diluited the door now and again to let new air in.hyperventaliate onto them every now and then for co2. when they start to show sex learn how to spot male plants - remove them. hopefully your left with a girl or two. (or get feminised seeds - more expensive). Cut the light cycle to 12hrs on and 12hrs complete darkness. Find out how to know when they are ready and thEn harvest,dry and cure. hey presto. sinsemillia for the novice grower for about £60 tops incl. electricity.

saying that - there are already a fuck load of grow forums already out there is good and has enough refugees from overgrow and plenty of old hippy growers with excellent tricks...last time I looked though there wasn't much talk about ruthless and monolithic conspiracy

11-21-2007, 03:16 PM,
Ask someone from South Africa to send you some Durban Poison seeds. I know sinsemilla means no seeds but a lot of good smoke still produces a small number of seeds on its own, any seed taken from a hermaphroditic plant has a 99% chance of being female so the seeds you get out of what you smoke should be fine (presuming it is good shit), you don't necessarily need to order from sensi seeds. Once you have found your mother plant I'm assuming you will be using clones for five cycles or so anyway so males won't be too much of a problem.

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