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11-14-2007, 05:16 PM,
#16
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ok ive just seen this movie ..i think it will open your eyes to lsd ..heres the link to hes site ..you can get the movie at any bt site its also on cable its worth a screeny ..... http://www.sonyclassics.com/devilanddaniel/
also so http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=D...G=Google+Search

this guy could' ve been a huge star ...he was on his way ... until he took lsd and the devil offerd him everything ,,,,, when he took the drug ,, he refused and his life took a big shit ! big time it seems to have opened some kind of door way ..im not sure but that movie and what happens to him is kind of scary.. listen to what he says alot of referring to the occult ... and numbers ... what he refers too is complex for someone that has never studyed the occult , as I have

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11-15-2007, 12:50 AM,
#17
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Quote:nataria

So you've been to a few rave parties maybe and dropped a couple of trips. You had your first trip at 15, how old are you now 16? You called me a liar when the fact that you said that "its always an amazing experience" proves that you are talking shit, either that or you haven't had many hallucinagens and you are speaking out of place. Wether you believe me or not I do not realy care, I have had hundreds, if not thousands of trips as well as heaps of mushrooms, mescaline and all sorts of other shit and I now regret it more than I can explain. Just so you know, I see through your shit, you may fool everyone else here as there are many gullible people on this forum but I want you to know I AM ON TO YOU! You are another tryhard... 'man'.

You say LSD is good stuff 'man', maybe for a while. But when you start hallucinating when you don't want to, you may feel a little differently about that. As for the latest study that says that it is not stored in your spinal fluid, I have seen that, just like I saw the studies that said that Marijihuana wasn't adictive (which were obviously wrong), and the ones that said that Bupranorphine wasn't addictive (which were also very wrong), so pardon me if I chose to reject this one and go with my own personal experience again. If LSD is not stored in your spinal fluid, makes no difference to me, perhaps it is stored in the marrow of your bones (like methodone apparently is) maybe its stored in your fat, whatever, all I know is that I have constant flashbacks and a spinal adjustment seemed to bring on the most intense & long lasting episode I have had. This is not an uncommon scenario, and was probably what lead to these studies being conducted in the first place. Now fuck off and piss on your girlfriend or whatever it is that you do you fucking freak!
Cram your shit dude. I'm so sick of people on this forum telling other people they're the try hards, they're the arrogant ones, they're the ignorant ones, you are the only one who can see through other people's shit, when one look at the way you interact with other people shows that you have a lot to learn.

What do you think you know about anyone based on a few posts on a forum?

I find it hard to believe you've had "thousands" of trips when you're still coming at people with this kind of douchebaggery.

You can take your "learn from daddy" tone and shove it.
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11-15-2007, 02:04 AM,
#18
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Quote:
Quote:Fun times last night. I managed to play with some amazing musicians and have got to say I've never felt more ideas and more influence in a musical situation.

Yeah, except when you listen to that shit afterwards, sober, you wonder what all the fuzz was about! :LOL:

Recorded it and it was bomb... My friends were sober, and we all play music professionally; therefore, sucking isn't much of an option. I play drums, so the extra energy was quite nice... I apparently have no technical limit on the stuff.

nietzscheansuperman, you're a numskull. I've been to the chiropractor and had my neck adjusted and didn't get shit. You're understanding of the chemical LSD is completely flawed. What you're saying is impossible. You have your head far up your ass. Read this: http://www.maps.org/research/abrahart.html

Seriously though, I can't believe you're trying to pawn this bullshit on us in a forum where most people do a lot of reading and research for themselves.

Just because you're a pussy and you can't handle the after effects of your experiences doesn't mean you have to shame people and lie. You even admit you don't know and use the word perhaps... Perhaps LSD is good for you. Perhaps you're a fucking retard... wait I already knew that from the gay jokes topic.

I have this feeling you're a very angry person. I pity you for this. Apparently you feel so inadequate that you make up lies and insult people. I would try some therapy if I was you.

ESAD
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11-15-2007, 02:10 AM,
#19
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Quote:
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Quote:Fun times last night. I managed to play with some amazing musicians and have got to say I've never felt more ideas and more influence in a musical situation.

Yeah, except when you listen to that shit afterwards, sober, you wonder what all the fuzz was about! :LOL:

Recorded it and it was bomb... My friends were sober, and we all play music professionally; therefore, sucking isn't much of an option. I play drums, so the extra energy was quite nice... I apparently have no technical limit on the stuff.

nietzscheansuperman, you're a numskull. I've been to the chiropractor and had my neck adjusted and didn't get shit. You're understanding of the chemical LSD is completely flawed. What you're saying is impossible. You have your head far up your ass. Read this: http://www.maps.org/research/abrahart.html

Seriously though, I can't believe you're trying to pawn this bullshit on us in a forum where most people do a lot of reading and research for themselves.

Just because you're a pussy and you can't handle the after effects of your experiences doesn't mean you have to shame people and lie. You even admit you don't know and use the word perhaps... Perhaps LSD is good for you. Perhaps you're a fucking retard... wait I already knew that from the gay jokes topic.

I have this feeling you're a very angry person. I pity you for this. Apparently you feel so inadequate that you make up lies and insult people. I would try some therapy if I was you.

ESAD


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11-15-2007, 08:54 AM,
#20
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Look, the trip comes not from the LSD, but from the brain chemicals your body produces as a reaction to the LSD. So, the LSD might long be gone from your body and you're still tripping. That's two seperate things.
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11-15-2007, 02:06 PM,
#21
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Psilosybin, there is a lot of shit here for me to respond to and I promise you that I wont bitch out but first can you please point out the lies that I have been spreading. I will do my best to reply to all the shit you guys are throwing my way but you will have to bear with me as I don't have all the time in the world and there are probably more constructive things that I should be doing with it.
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11-15-2007, 03:24 PM,
#22
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i dont care how many trips you have taken or how hardcore you think you are. if you dont think lsd is a positive thing, well thats your opinion and i can respect that.

but to speak about it as if your opinion on lsd is fact and theres no debating it cause we are all wrong and havnt taken as much lsd as you, well thats just plain foolish.

i personally do not want to take 100s of lsd trips in my life time, i dont think there is a need, its a serious psychoactive substance that should not be taken lightly, its not somthing i would take sitting at home on a tuesday night while i sit on my pc. you know.

i was merely advocating the use of psycoactives in a relativly controlled enviroment and a i clearly stated that its not somthing that should be taken by anyone.

either way its not what you have to say its how you say it, your attitude and your tone, its just not needed.

have some respect for us:)

even if i dont agree with what you have to say, that shouldnt mean i loose all respect for you.
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11-15-2007, 03:47 PM,
#23
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where'd you get LSD these days? We had a chemist around here back in the 90's who made great stuff but he decided to help a buddy move some pot and got busted and has been gone since. *sniffles*

Lota people selling blotter art and window pane on ebay. I wonder if any of it is the real deal or just fancy paper.
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11-15-2007, 06:28 PM,
#24
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im in london can get papers, liquid very very easily, most if not all the stuff comes from holland.
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11-15-2007, 07:03 PM,
#25
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If this was a one way conversation it would be boring. I will tell you how I feel and the experiences that I have had and you make of it what you will. If you think I am lying about something or pretending that I have had more acid than I actually have, then stay tuned. We have a lot of members on this site that become instant experts on everything thanks to google, but it is not hard to distinguish these people from those that have had a lot of life experience and who speak from their heart. I will leave it up to your good judgement to decide whether I am a liar or not but please wait till the end of this thread to make that assumption as you do not have enough to go on yet. As for the "listen to daddy approach", this is hard to avoid as I believe that I have almost certainly had a far worse drug problem than anyone on this forum so I do believe that I can speak with some authority. I have constantly been trying to find ways to escape my past and make it go away so having it questioned and being called a liar is a strange feeling indeed. There are certain members here who know me personally (like stachild) who would no doubt find this thread extremely amusing as anyone who knows me, knows I am anything but a liar, in fact I can't stand bullshit, hence my seemingly arrogant approach. It would not be right for me to just sit back and listen to people promoting the use of LSD without giving my opinion and giving an honest account of my experiences. There is no doubt that LSD can be enjoyable, in fact for the first few hours it is almost impossible to stop laughing (same as mushies) however after this stage things can start to get pretty wierd. I have experienced visual hallucinations on acid but I do not believe they are as common as most people believe, so forgive me if I am a little suspicious of peoples claims about seeing shape-shifting dragons and the like. When I hear people say things like I haven't had a bad experience, it also raises my suspicions as severe anxiety is very common with LSD, even more so than intense visual hallucinations in my opinion and since googling seems to be the thing to do around here, here are some examples:

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=14910

http://www.daap.ca/factsonlsd.html

http://www.drugs.com/lsd.html

http://www.biopsychiatry.com/clonazlsd.htm

http://www.guide4living.com/drugabuse/lsd-effects.htm

No doubt someone will imply that I must have had some pre-existing psychiatric condition and that it doesn't cause these effects in everyone, please understand that they are speaking out of ignorance and will most likely find out the hard way sooner or later. I know of many people who suffer from drug induced psychosis due to LSD who had no symptoms prior to use.

psilosybin,

In my first post I asked you not to send me any bullshit links as I was anticipating your response. The link you sent me was by a student social worker who in my opinion was far from credible and was probably just trying to convince himself that LSD was harmless to justify his own use, he certainly didn't fool me. It amazes me that this dickhead is actually trying to suggest that HPPD may not be a real condition. I didn't read it all as I have better things to do but this little exert did stand out somewhat.

"Most of these articles are now dated, the latter ones being reviews of the former."

In regards to the spine thing, you say you have "had your neck cracked by a chiropractor and you were fine", you seem to have missed something I said. I would never get my neck or back cracked by a chiropractor as I am not that stupid. What I actually said was that I had an adjustment by a network chiropractor, two completely different things. I do not have time to explain the difference between the two except to say that they are almost exact opposites, network chiropractors barely even touch you and your body does the rest. Some say that it shouldn't even be called chiropractic although it is only taught to chiropractors, here is some more information:

http://www.associationfornetworkcare.com/a...les/index.shtml

Like I said from the word go, I am aware of the study conducted fairly recently that suggests that LSD is not stored in your spinal fluid, however I did not mention anything about fluid. Opiates are supposed to leave your system after 5 days but I have tested positive six weeks after using. My doctor said that this is not uncommon as Methodone can be stored in bone marrow for quite some time yet I can quite easily find a link saying that this is a myth, here you go:

http://www.cabhealth.org/narcotic_treatment_program_1.shtml

Do you see my point? I remember not that long ago when scientists and doctors said that marijihuana wasn't phisically addictive, well they have changed their tune now but I knew it was addictive long before their latest study said it was, in fact it amazes me that they ever made those claims as it is obviously highly addictive. When I tried to stop I could hardly sleep for days and sweated profusely along with many other obvious signs of withdrawal. I was one of the first people in this country to be given Buprenorphine and was told that this was not addictive at all according to their fucking studies, however this could not be further from the truth, in fact I think it was even more addictive than Methodone (which is more addictive than Heroin). So once again, forgive me if I chose to go with my own personal experiences (and those of others) instead of taking these new studies as gospel. I must add that I have no proof either that lsd is stored in or around my spine and I have had shitloads of MDMA and other amphetamines which can also dilate your pupils, however during the prolonged flashback type episode that I experienced I had symptoms that were very reminiscent of LSD, for instance when I take it I get a strange sensation on the roof of my mouth which feels like it has become soft and when I touch it with my tongue, I can feel the sensation in my nose and my eyes. I have also spoken to countless others who have had similar flashbacks and my Chiro says that it is not at all uncommon. Network releases cellular memory though so there may be another explanation for it there but it still wouldn't explain the change in the texture and feel of the spine or the area around it and would not explain the dilated pupils.

cont'd tommorrow.
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11-15-2007, 07:04 PM,
#26
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What do the Beatles and Jimi Hendrix have in common? Both performed songs that are so good they defy most people's understanding and both took too much LSD - this just about sums it up for me. The Beatles wouldn't have been anything like as creative or inventive without LSD.

Interesting too that the ingredient in Psilocybin mushrooms is apparently banned even from medicinal research, they use cocaine in throat operations, morphine to kill pain... all legal for doctors etc but not Psilocybin, again this just says it all. The authorities don't want you asking questions or thinking for yourself, which is what LSD and Psilocybin mushrooms both do. I myself have had my fair share of Psilocybin mushrooms as a teenager, for about three seasons back then I had enough of those things to last a lifetime, in the back of my mind I still think it might be the whole reason I ever woke up to whats going on in the world, I mean, its not that the mushrooms wake you up, no they don't, they just might make you "able" to wake up. Able to break free from your conditioning, able to think outside the box.

Funny that a topic by a member called "psilocybin" promotes LSD, dude thats MAN MADE, fuck LSD, stick to the natural stuff (mushrooms!)

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11-15-2007, 07:29 PM,
#27
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Quote:I have experienced visual hallucinations on acid but I do not believe they are as common as most people believe, so forgive me if I am a little suspicious of peoples claims about seeing shape-shifting dragons and the like. When I hear people say things like I haven't had a bad experience, it also raises my suspicions as severe anxiety is very common with LSD, even more so than intense visual hallucinations...

People who say things like seeing dragons and whatnot are generally trying to either; sound like they know what they're on about; trying to fit in; trying to showing off or just being goofy. I've never had hallucinations. What I have had are incredibly colorful visual displays, auditory bliss and a sense of being organically in tune and in harmony with the universe.

:drunks:
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The world's &freeest& country has the highest number in prison.
- arundhati roy
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The crisis of modern democracy is a profound one. Free elections, a free press and an independent judiciary mean little when the free market has reduced them to commodities available on sale to the highest bidder.
- arundhati roy
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The era of manufacturing consent has given way to the era of manufacturing news. Soon media newsrooms will drop the pretense, and start hiring theater directors instead of journalists.
- arundhati roy
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The structure of capitalism is flawed. The motor that powers it cannot but vastly increase the disparity between the poor and the rich globally and within countries as well. Parecon is a brave argument for replacing that flawed machine and offers a much needed -- more equitable, democratic, participatory -- alternative economic vision.
- arundhati roy
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[The choice between John Kerry and George Bush] is not a real choice. It's an apparent choice. Like choosing a brand of detergent. Whether you buy Ivory Snow or Tide, they're both owned by Proctor & Gamble.
- arundhati roy
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No government's condemnation of terrorism is credible if it cannot show itself to be open to change by nonviolent dissent
- arundhati roy
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Dr. Hermann Oberth who pioneered rocket design for the German Reich during World War II and later advanced rocket technology for the American manned space launches, cryptically stated: "We cannot take the credit for our record advancement in certain scientific fields alone; we have been helped."

When asked by whom, he replied: "The people of other worlds."
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11-15-2007, 07:47 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-15-2007, 07:52 PM by triplesix.)
#28
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This thread has had a lot of things said, some true, some specious, some useless. I'll let everyone decide what fits where. Still, I think some things haven't been said that need to be said.

1) Man-made things are not necessarily safer or more dangerous than natural things. 2) Everyone reacts differently to different drugs. 3) Marijuana is not addictive; even if it was, it would not be dangerous nor counter-productive for some people to be high all the time. Now I'll elaborate on these points.

First of all, I respect LSD. Yes, it was man-made, but LSD is a synthesized form of lysergic acid from ergot, which I find intensely fascinating for purely historical reasons. Ergot poisoning was known as St. Anthony's fire and plagued mankind for centuries. Likely, it was responsible for some of the more erratic behaviour resulting in the Salem witch trials among other things. It is a controlled form of madness. Reality suddenly seems less concrete and physical. The difference between what we see, hear, taste, feel, and smell and what can be concretely considered "real" becomes apparent. Assumptions about the universe break down. These are the reasons I love acid.

I agree that I haven't seen that many wild things on it, but I have seen a variety of complex hallucinations. Near the end of my last trip I was listening to a friend talk when suddenly his face ran like mud, stretching down toward his chest and the floor. This only lasted for probably a second and a half, like most of my visual hallucinations, still some people might find this very frightening, or even the beginning of a "bad trip," I just found it intensely fascinating. But more on that in point 2. I found that visual hallucinations only became apparent when I stilled myself and stared intently at things. In fact, an odd experience from my last trip, I kept having the feeling that I needed to take a dump, only to sit on the toilet ineffectually and become hypnotized by the wallpaper, which swirled about and became three-dimensional, seemingly pulsating from stretching away from me and snapping back to two-dimensional space.

Basically, since LSD is synthesized from a naturally occurring psychedelic without the gangrene, I think it is an improvement. I do believe marijuana and magic mushrooms are two of the safest drugs on the planet, and their being natural is surely part of that. However, there are infinite other natural things which are quite harmful, and other man-made synthesized drugs such as aspirin, which have similarly safe characteristics.

Going back to seeing my friend's face melt while tripping, this I think is where a little maturity, self-control, and understanding make a world of difference when it comes to recreational drug use. I don't think that someone who does a lot of drugs is an authority on the subject. In fact, anyone who has a drug problem is about the last person I'd like to take pointers from. I have been responsible enough to avoid opium, heroin, crack (well except that one time), crystal meth, and other drugs which have virtually no benefit from their consumption. As well as a general avoidance of cocaine and oxycontin, because these two are virtually pointless drugs. Nonetheless, the list of "avoidables" will be different for everyone, as everyone must know their own limits. There are some people who I've spent considerable time talking out of consuming mushrooms, simply because I didn't think the experience would be positive for them. In some ways, as much as psychedelics open up the mind, the mind needs to be open a little already, or it may turn out to be far too much for them. Some of these people ignored my advice, to mixed results. It comes down to personal freedom and choice, another inherent message to these drugs, which I also enjoy.

Lastly, as far as marijuana, well yeah, I am addicted. I too have digestive issues and insomnia when I quit smoking pot. I also had these afflictions before I smoked weed. Not to mention that weed brings a sense of inner calm, clarity of mind (there can be no arguing this for myself, perhaps it isn't true for others), and a general improvement to my state of mind. While some may call this artificial, I merely challenge the assumption that consuming a psychoactive on a regular basis is unhealthy or wrong. There is nowhere in the universe that this is written, and the negligible health effects of marijuana almost seem to imply otherwise. I believe this beautiful plant has a very distinct and important connection to mankind, the cannabinoid receptors in our brains seem to illustrate this point. There is nothing I can do sober that I can't do stoned, and many things I do better. I have driven hundreds of thousands of miles high, and have no at fault accidents or speeding tickets.

People need to rethink their own culpability when drug experiences go awry. People experiment with these drugs on a nearly mind-bogglingly expansive scale, and most of them completely safely. There is only a small minority who have things go wrong for them, which I blame partly on brain chemistry, but mostly on immaturity of mind and body.

This blunt is dedicated to all those who understand the great benefits of mind-altering substances; I'll see you on the astral plane.

Peace.
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11-15-2007, 08:07 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-15-2007, 08:11 PM by LeveL.)
#29
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I agree with most of that triplesix. People claiming to see dragons etc just wanted to see dragons from the outset... and so they did. I have had mushrooms countless times and never saw anything like that. Yes they are hallucenegenic, but its only mild, for example a pattern on a carpet looks like its swirling around, or sit in a darkened room with a TV on and look at the ceiling as it lights up different colours from the TV, again it swirls around doing mad shit but ahem, theres no "dragons" about it. :rolleyes:

Mostly though I remember LMFAO.

And if you are near a big crowd of people you can pick out conversations, its crazy shit. The only downside to any of it is when the farmer told us to get off his field. He did have a shotgun, so we did get off his field.

One things for sure though man you gotta be able to handle the madness. Everything Terence McKenna says is true about "People think it would be wierd if aliens landed on the White House lawn and yet you only need to have magic mushrooms and you're in a FAR more weird place" LOL so true, so true. His point being that there are weirder things here on Earth that make aliens landing look like a walk in the park. As if to say once you have had magic mushrooms, thats it, mentally you could cope with anything, nothing can touch the weirdness of those things.
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11-15-2007, 08:37 PM,
#30
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1) I do not have a drug problem!

2)Oxycontin is an opiate, opiates are the most important drugs in existance!

3) Did you know that we have opiate receptors too?

4)"Opium & heroin have virtually no benefit from their consumption"

What the fuck are you talking about???

5)"I do believe marijuana and magic mushrooms are two of the safest drugs on the planet, and their being natural is surely part of that"

Strychnine occurs naturally too.

6)"I merely challenge the assumption that consuming a psychoactive on a regular basis is unhealthy or wrong. There is nowhere in the universe that this is written"

Are you serious??

7) "Marijuana is not addictive"... "as far as marijuana, well yeah, I am addicted"

Are you alright?
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