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Photographing Chemtrails on Mobile Phone
01-07-2008, 10:56 PM,
#16
Photographing Chemtrails on Mobile Phone
Quote:Not trying to be a prick, just trying to explain it.
Me too. Altitude is deceptive. Big plane at higher altutude, smaller plane at lower altitude perhaps. Look same size so assumed to be at same height. Wind conditions different at the two levels - one disperses the other doesn't.

Pics will be interesting to see.

Cheers
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01-07-2008, 11:29 PM,
#17
Photographing Chemtrails on Mobile Phone
I thought that strictly speaking vapour trails (contrails) exist Only at very high altitudes when watrer molecules are superheated passing through the turbines and then cool extremley rapidly forming the vapour trail. This could be wrong, don't take my word for it. Though if right, it certainly rules out comparatively low altitiude planes exihibiting the phenomena..unless they were jettisoning prist all the time..
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01-07-2008, 11:35 PM,
#18
Photographing Chemtrails on Mobile Phone
Quote:I thought that strictly speaking vapour trails (contrails) exist Only at very high altitudes when watrer molecules are superheated passing through the turbines and then cool extremley rapidly forming the vapour trail. This could be wrong, don't take my word for it. Though if right, it certainly rules out comparatively low altitiude planes exihibiting the phenomena..unless they were jettisoning prist all the time..
What's a "very high altitude"? "Low altitude" planes sometimes are much higher up than you think. It's visually deceptive because theres no reference point.

Cheers
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
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Please understand that the &Light at the End of the Tunnel& is most likely to be the 7.42 from Kings Cross coming in the opposite direction at Great Speed.
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“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.” - Bapu.
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01-08-2008, 12:49 AM,
#19
Photographing Chemtrails on Mobile Phone
Quote:
Quote:I thought that strictly speaking vapour trails (contrails) exist Only at very high altitudes when watrer molecules are superheated passing through the turbines and then cool extremley rapidly forming the vapour trail. This could be wrong, don't take my word for it. Though if right, it certainly rules out comparatively low altitiude planes exihibiting the phenomena..unless they were jettisoning prist all the time..
What's a "very high altitude"? "Low altitude" planes sometimes are much higher up than you think. It's visually deceptive because theres no reference point.

Cheers

sure, but by reference to altitiude I didn't mean concerning the perception of distance of an object by a viewer but rather the drastic differences in temperature at "lower" and "higher" altitudes. The physical science regarding this, as I believe, suggest that contrails are a relatively infrequent occurence made by jetliners approaching the stratosphere(?). Not my experience last summer here in Saxony when there's were grids a plenty and planes backtracking the sky. suddenly having no trail and pissing off. Only then, to appear later with trails once again in tow.
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01-08-2008, 12:59 AM,
#20
Photographing Chemtrails on Mobile Phone
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:I thought that strictly speaking vapour trails (contrails) exist Only at very high altitudes when watrer molecules are superheated passing through the turbines and then cool extremley rapidly forming the vapour trail. This could be wrong, don't take my word for it. Though if right, it certainly rules out comparatively low altitiude planes exihibiting the phenomena..unless they were jettisoning prist all the time..
What's a "very high altitude"? "Low altitude" planes sometimes are much higher up than you think. It's visually deceptive because theres no reference point.

Cheers

sure, but by reference to altitiude I didn't mean concerning the perception of distance of an object by a viewer but rather the drastic differences in temperature at "lower" and "higher" altitudes. The physical science regarding this, as I believe, suggest that contrails are a relatively infrequent occurence made by jetliners approaching the stratosphere(?). Not my experience last summer here in Saxony when there's were grids a plenty and planes backtracking the sky. suddenly having no trail, only to appear later with trail once again in tow.
Contrails happen every day over here. Commercial flights don't backtrack. The Xs seen in the sky are not caused by the same planes. The sky is full of invisible highways (marked on aviation charts) called airways at low level and jetways at high level and are like roads for planes. These criss-cross all over the place and the planes follow them.

You are right about temperature differences and these temperature layers are often very clearly defined. Quite often the trail will appear and disappear because the aircraft looses several feet in altitude and then gains it again if it's flying just at the temperature layer boundary. Now I'm not saying there's no such thing as chemtrails at all. What I am saying is that what most peeps emotively and instinctively call chemtrails are actually bogstandard contrails.

Cheers
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
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Please understand that the &Light at the End of the Tunnel& is most likely to be the 7.42 from Kings Cross coming in the opposite direction at Great Speed.
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“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.” - Bapu.
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01-08-2008, 01:17 AM,
#21
Photographing Chemtrails on Mobile Phone
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:I thought that strictly speaking vapour trails (contrails) exist Only at very high altitudes when watrer molecules are superheated passing through the turbines and then cool extremley rapidly forming the vapour trail. This could be wrong, don't take my word for it. Though if right, it certainly rules out comparatively low altitiude planes exihibiting the phenomena..unless they were jettisoning prist all the time..
What's a "very high altitude"? "Low altitude" planes sometimes are much higher up than you think. It's visually deceptive because theres no reference point.

Cheers

sure, but by reference to altitiude I didn't mean concerning the perception of distance of an object by a viewer but rather the drastic differences in temperature at "lower" and "higher" altitudes. The physical science regarding this, as I believe, suggest that contrails are a relatively infrequent occurence made by jetliners approaching the stratosphere(?). Not my experience last summer here in Saxony when there's were grids a plenty and planes backtracking the sky. suddenly having no trail, only to appear later with trail once again in tow.
Contrails happen every day over here. Commercial flights don't backtrack. The Xs seen in the sky are not caused by the same planes. The sky is full of invisible highways (marked on aviation charts) called airways at low level and jetways at high level and are like roads for planes. These criss-cross all over the place and the planes follow them.

You are right about temperature differences and these temperature layers are often very clearly defined. Quite often the trail will appear and disappear because the aircraft looses several feet in altitude and then gains it again if it's flying just at the temperature layer boundary. Now I'm not saying there's no such thing as chemtrails at all. What I am saying is that what most peeps emotively and instinctively call chemtrails are actually bogstandard contrails.

Cheers

Sure. I'd agree with that. But the instances I refer to are of the same planes in the area for over hours.
Having spent over a year learning foreshortening IMAO my perspective and depth perception are pretty honed. These planes often were realtive low level.tag teaming and fat trails that fall and drift over a much much greater time period than the 15 or so minutes that is the life of fame for a bogstandard contrail.Although, it boils down to no more than recounted testimony, what I am describing isn't queueing or any other such aviation traffic system I still maintain that what I am describing was catergorically not a dislpay of a complex civil air traffic system..

absolutely not bogstandard vapour trails IMHO in these specific instances imo. And I do try and err on the side of reason and scrutiny, it's by the by anyways :content:

cheers
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02-04-2008, 04:23 AM,
#22
Photographing Chemtrails on Mobile Phone
[Image: cloudysky.jpg]

The cell phone images must be available to the Intel services.

Looking for Arab terrorists dirty pool players taking pictures of building targets

are getting tired of calls from the phone company to look at clouds.
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02-22-2008, 02:00 AM,
#23
Photographing Chemtrails on Mobile Phone
This sounds like a case of bluetooth hacking... People with the right hardware and software can access your phone and basically do anything they want all through a bluetooth connection; even in some cases without you accepting the connection. I have personally seen peoples phones being hacked and taking off a picture and adding a strange msg is well within the capabilities of anyone with the right knowhow.
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02-22-2008, 02:33 AM,
#24
Photographing Chemtrails on Mobile Phone
I had the bluetooth hacker on my phone once, its pretty neat but not all phones work great. Now I just send random messages to unknown people with their bluetooth on, this usually goes through most phones.
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02-22-2008, 02:55 AM,
#25
Photographing Chemtrails on Mobile Phone
Quote:I had the bluetooth hacker on my phone once, its pretty neat but not all phones work great. Now I just send random messages to unknown people with their bluetooth on, this usually goes through most phones.

I use my laptop and linux for bluetooth related fun :dead:

I'll paste a link to a documentary about bluetooth hacking in the video section...
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02-22-2008, 02:55 AM, (This post was last modified: 02-22-2008, 02:55 AM by scott.)
#26
Photographing Chemtrails on Mobile Phone
Edit - double post, sry :-P
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03-11-2008, 07:40 AM,
#27
Photographing Chemtrails on Mobile Phone
Quote:The mobile phone is privately owned by the same company or affiliates that wants to do mass genocide on the population. They are criminals.
If you have no need for mobile phone, smash it to pieces and use computer instead.
They do not want the public to be aware of chemtrails so they try to suppress it
If the public are not aware what can we do??? It is a game of chess.
1. patience
2. deceives
3. keep everything a secret, don't let your opponent know what ya planning to do next.

or do whatever it takes to win
I want blue sky back I want it now
These criminal are doing everything they can to keep everything dark and cloudy the way they like.
All disease are artificial created in secret in laboratory then is released into the atmoshere or other means
such as fluoride and chlorine in our tap water. We know what they are up to and the game is over.

We are now living in hell. You are either asleep or fighting them using any means possible.
Don't be relaxed be aggressive be smart and do what they do, whatever it takes to win.


most people are not looking to the sky. What is the government doing?
Unite The Many, defeat the few.

Revolution is for the love of your people, culture, knowledge, wisdom, spirit, and peace. Not Greed!
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http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=277...enous&hl=en
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