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2012 POLESHIFT


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2012 POLESHIFT
01-13-2008, 12:49 AM,
#16
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http://argusoog.punt.nl/?id=396728&r=1...l_archief=&


back on topic.
All around the world , governments are building bunkers , exclusive shelters for high ranked politicians , scientist , doctors , ruling elite.

anyone on this forum who can confirm it.
Images : Photos : Google Earth.
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01-15-2008, 01:23 PM,
#17
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im thinking that pole shift is somthing that seems some what fact.

its like climate change, ofcourse the climate changes, its the details and reasons behind it that make us all look stupid.

ok so the pole shifts, we have theories of when and how and why, but we realy dont know. we are just starting to understand these sorts of things. its not unexpected for the people that love the end of the world theories to jump onto and exploit it. this is par for the course it seems.

i personally find this sort of information interesting, and i would also wonder if the pole shifted what sort of shift would it be. would it be a left to right shift with not much impact, or would it be a complete shift where the poles are now on the equator and the poles are the equator.

if it did happen i doubt it would be an overnight or even over year or possibly even over decade. maybe over a period of a few centuries atleast. which could possibly lead to all sorts of issues for our civilisation.

but. when is the big question as usual. people will say its 2012 and people will say its when jesus comes. but no one realy knows. its all educated guesses and statistical assumptions..
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08-04-2008, 07:14 AM,
#18
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Quote:im thinking that pole shift is somthing that seems some what fact.

its like climate change, ofcourse the climate changes, its the details and reasons behind it that make us all look stupid.

ok so the pole shifts, we have theories of when and how and why, but we realy dont know. we are just starting to understand these sorts of things. its not unexpected for the people that love the end of the world theories to jump onto and exploit it. this is par for the course it seems.

i personally find this sort of information interesting, and i would also wonder if the pole shifted what sort of shift would it be. would it be a left to right shift with not much impact, or would it be a complete shift where the poles are now on the equator and the poles are the equator.

if it did happen i doubt it would be an overnight or even over year or possibly even over decade. maybe over a period of a few centuries atleast. which could possibly lead to all sorts of issues for our civilisation.

but. when is the big question as usual. people will say its 2012 and people will say its when jesus comes. but no one realy knows. its all educated guesses and statistical assumptions..


If there was a polar shift the magnetic field would start popping out at several places with multiple poles moving as the currents in the core of the earth shifted. This would last for about 5000 years. Typically this happens at periods of low magnetic field strength. Currently the magnetic field of the earth is low in strength and shifting at an above average rate, although not alarmingly so. One interesting thing about 2012 is that the Sun will be shifting then. Even with a lowered field strength the chances of a polar shift induced by the Sun are extremely long although we are overdue for one and have been for all of history.
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08-04-2008, 07:52 AM,
#19
2012 POLESHIFT

I have some questions.

Does a Geological pole shift automatically affect the Magnetic pole?

When the magnetic pole shifts, as it is and always does, does the ozone protection level

drop at the site of the new pole? Does harmful Solar radiation increase?

Obviously of the two types of pole shifts, the Geological one is the scarier scenario;

but the magnetic pole shift that is going on now is just a precursor(according

to mainstream science) to a 100% shift, where magnetic South becomes North.

What would that do to our electrical technology? Or our brains?


Of all the 2012 doom predictions, the scariest is surely the center of the galaxy going into active mode.

If there is a super-massive black hole at the center of the galaxy, it could conceivably have a 20000

year period between the releases of energy, as it takes that long for enough matter (or whatever) to accrete

and reach 'critical mass', if you will. See 'the Great Cross and the End of Time' for more info.

Who knows. We don't need to look very far into space or to the year 2012 to find horrific situations

for humanity. Our Masters' will and our Bretheren's complacency have all but destroyed humanity already.

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08-05-2008, 12:30 AM, (This post was last modified: 08-05-2008, 12:39 AM by wanderingwaldo.)
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Quote:I have some questions.

Does a Geological pole shift automatically affect the Magnetic pole?

When the magnetic pole shifts, as it is and always does, does the ozone protection level

drop at the site of the new pole? Does harmful Solar radiation increase?

Obviously of the two types of pole shifts, the Geological one is the scarier scenario;

but the magnetic pole shift that is going on now is just a precursor(according

to mainstream science) to a 100% shift, where magnetic South becomes North.

What would that do to our electrical technology? Or our brains?

By geological pole I assume you mean the axis of rotation, this doesn't shift per se but wobbles with a fixed period of 41,000 years. A sudden change in the axis of rotation of the earth would have huge climatic consequences were it possible.

I would venture a guess that the level of ozone would drop at the new magnetic pole locations (multiple Norths and Souths moving across the earth) because I know auroras would definitely be present.

With regard to solar radiation / cosmic rays, there would still be a magnetic field for the earth and pole reversals happen several times every million years without any evidence of it having been detrimental in the past. That being said the field does weaken by about a factor of 5 during a reversal, but the process also takes 1000-5000 years so it will take a long time to get that low. With regard to electrical technology the shifting poles will move so slow that it will not induce a significant flux. Satellites it could be a different issue, but could possibly be routed or shielded to address it, once again we would have a long time to adapt.

The reason why I doubt this would happen is that we have been overdue for 200,000 years for a pole shift and the Sun shifts regularly without having induced a shift in the Earth's magnetic field - the last time in 2001. If the Mayans found a way to predict a pole shift it would be interesting to know how they would have done so with any amount of accuracy and what their definition would have been. For instance our magnetic field has been in decline for hundreds of years - what is the exact point at which we say "yep, this is a pole reversal and it started about X years ago"? I would think there would be a more discrete end date for their calendar to begin a new cycle - then again I'm not Mayan.
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08-05-2008, 01:56 AM,
#21
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Thanks wanderingwaldo.

Here is a decent little page about magnetic reversals.
http://www.iki.rssi.ru/mirrors/stern/earthmag/reversal.htm

I remember in the documentary 'Mysterious Origins of Man' Heston said that Einstein agreed with the theory of geological pole shift. He said that the build up of ice
would cause an imbalance and eventually pull the north pole out of its position. I am not sure who came up with that theory for him to agree with...I will look it up soon.

Truly a physical re shuffling of the continents would be horrific, assuming it happened in a short period of time.

I saw this a long time ago, it was pretty good for PBS - http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/magnetic/

I will look for that vid as a torrent later as well. Maybe over at MVgroup.
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08-05-2008, 01:58 AM,
#22
2012 POLESHIFT
Hi.
IMHO, with my poor sciencism and English, I try to explain a version, put together from several sources. So, in current present our Solarium is passing the equator of Milky Way. According to the different data we pass this huge equator-belt several years (though I cant imagine, how exactly they measure the physical equator of MW, but that's not point), some they, the exact passing by was already in 1999. And so, there are different "bad things" close to us right now, most mentioned are 2: black hole in the centrum of MW and spinning belt of asteroids and other "garbage" around the MW which we can hit. Also they talk about Sun's activity, which also reacts strongly to the equator-passing, additionally because Jupiter (who's year is exactly as long as Sun activity-cycles, 11,9 years) lines also in activating position for Sun again in 2012 (so called cycle no.24 should reach its peak then); so the Sun can "shoot" us with every kind of rays and make damage to our atmospheric roof, causing fatal-bad things...

About pole shift. As every living (=spinning?) "organism" so does Milky Way have his (her?) magnetic fields and therefore poles, "+" and "-" in opposite ends. And so, when we pass MW's equator, we move from on side to other, which must be the main reason, which forces our poles to shift. Why, don't ask me. I write this only because according this version the shift will not take place by the surface of Earth with "multiple Norths and Souths moving across", but inside, by axis. And when it happens (north moves "down" and south "moves" up), then it happens rapidly, shtf. And when the "+" and "-" meet each other in the centrum of Earth and move through each other, then THAT is what will make a very fatal bang, the real shtf. Most probably it then causes Earth's axe to change too, making NYC a new north pole within 24 hours for example.

And this pole shift bang has nothing to do with exact date (neither exact time), it can happen every day since now till 2014 or smthng probably. Imho, 21.12.2012 is just a "big end date" for mayans' odometer-calendar, like we see in car when numbers change from: 99999 to 00000 to 00001... Just ironically, this time it correlates with real doom-dangers.
That's shortly all, what I understand by pole shift and the danger from it. Take it or brake it, and welcome to correct where I'm wrong.
So, refurbish your teeth, quit smoke, be ready.
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08-06-2008, 12:38 PM,
#23
2012 POLESHIFT
Please don't apologize-your English is better than many people who were born in the US and Canada. Thanks for your thoughts.
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