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Race Differences
01-24-2008, 09:34 PM,
#1
Race Differences
Some Obvious Differences

There is an animal race that has lots of different animal races among them. The fact is that there are also different races among the human race.

One only needs to look into a mirror and compare himself to other races of different color. Races look different. And the looks of the different races are more than skin deep. For example, if one would paint a black man's face into white, would it then look like a white man? Or what if one would paint a face of an Asian into black, would it look like a black? Of course not.

Sports are an excellent example. Look at the world championship runners for example. Do you see all the races presented equally there? Are there as many blacks, whites and Asians? No, no and no. You see that the vast majority of the runners are black and maybe one or two are whites and zero Asians. Basketball would be another example, in which the vast majority of the best players are black. And it is the bodies of the blacks that makes them ideal basketball players. American football is another example where blacks are overwhelmingly presented. Whites are overwhelmingly presented in another sports. Asians are doing well in some sports, for example in sports (or games) that require intelligence.

Science is where whites are also overwhelmingly presented. Asians too are significant scientists, especially great mathematicians. Blacks are not. Whites have been known for having invented the most of the greatest modern inventions (electricity, train, car, airplane, rocket, phone, television, computer, etc.). Asians too have made significant invention and important scientific discoveries, although not nearly as much as whites. Blacks have not been prominent in science nor in inventions.

But there are also much more race differences.


Average Differences Among Blacks, Whites, and Orientals
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Trait...................................................................Blacks.......
..................Whites...........................Orientals

Brain Size:
..Cranial capacity...............................................1,267....................
........1,347...............................1,364
..Cortical neurons (millions)..............................13,185...........................13,665.
..........................13,767

Intelligence:
..IQ test scores......................................................85..................
..............100................................106
..Cultural achievements........................................Low.........................
.....High................................High

Reproduction:
..2-egg twinning (per 1000 births).........................16.................................8............
........................4
..Hormone..........................................................Higher.......
..............Intermediate........................Lower
..Sex characteristics...........................................Larger................
.....Intermediate.......................Smaller
..Intercourse frequencies...................................Higher.....................Interme
diate........................Lower
..Permissive attitudes........................................Higher.....................Inte
rmediate........................Lower
..Sexually transmitted diseases.........................Higher.....................Intermediate........
................Lower

Personality:
..Aggressiveness...............................................Higher...........
..........Intermediate........................Lower
..Cautiousness..................................................Lower...........
..........Intermediate........................Higher
..Impulsivity.......................................................Higher......
...............Intermediate........................Lower
..Self-concept.....................................................Higher..............
.......Intermediate........................Lower
..Sociability........................................................Higher.....
................Intermediate........................Lower

Maturation:
..Gestation time...............................................Shorter......................
..Longer..............................Longer
..Skeletal development.....................................Earlier.....................Inte
rmediate..........................Later
..Motor development........................................Earlier.....................I
ntermediate...........................Later
..Dental development.......................................Earlier.....................In
termediate...........................Later
..Age of first intercourse...................................Earlier.....................Interm
ediate...........................Later
..Age of first pregnancy....................................Earlier.....................Interme
diate...........................Later
..Life-span.......................................................Shorter..............
..........Longer...............................Longer

Social organisation:
..Marital stability..............................................Lower....................
..Intermediate..........................Higher
..Law abidingness...........................................Lower.....................
.Intermediate..........................Higher
..Mental health.................................................Low......................
..Intermediate...........................Higher

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Source: Unabridged edition, Race, Evolution, and Behavior (p. 5).
http://www.charlesdarwinresearch.org/Race_...on_Behavior.pdf

Audio of dr. J. Philippe Rushton: http://www.freedomsite.org/r-free/download/rf44.rm


There are of course various reasons and theories for these race differences, such as environment, but I'm not going to tackle them here in detail. I'm just demonstrating that there indeed are these significant race differences.
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01-24-2008, 09:48 PM,
#2
Race Differences
The Color of Crime
http://www.amren.com/newstore/cart.php?page=color_of_crime

Quote:Why study racial differences in crime rates?
Many Americans believe this can lead only to invidious
comparisons and scapegoating. Others resist
the idea that there are significant group differences
in crime rates, and believe that even if there
are differences, society is to blame for not treating
people of all races equally. Some scholars even suggest
it may be better for Americans to remain ignorant
of certain realities about race.63 This view is
both obscurantist and patronizing: who is to decide
which are the truths that must be withheld? Society
does not benefit when information is suppressed.
Truth and knowledge are always better than falsehood
and ignorance.
[...]
It is common to oppose publication of crime statistics
for fear of creating “negative stereotypes,”
but statistical differences are the basis for important
policy decisions.
[...]
Finally, immigration is rapidly changing the
population of the United States. Thanks to immigration,
Hispanics are now the nation’s largest minority
group. Hispanics are one of the more crimeprone
groups in America. They also have high rates
of illegitimacy, school failure, poverty, welfare use,
New Century Foundation - 21 - The Color of Crime, 2005
and teen pregnancy. Asians are lowest in all these
categories. Is it wise for our immigration policies to
ignore these differences?
Race is, of course, still a taboo. This is what prevents
public discussion of sharp differences that
would be considered grounds for national concern
and even crisis if they were in areas where thinking
is not constricted. Every taboo represents a subject
that is removed from discussion, and this limits our
understanding of the world. It is far better for Americans
to understand their world—and the people who
live in it—than to persist in ignorance.
(The Color of Crime, 2005, p. 19-21.)


Major Findings

• Police and the justice system are not biased against minorities.

Crime Rates

• Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder,
and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
• When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely
than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife.
• Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white rate, and
Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate.
• The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the percentage of
the population that is black and Hispanic.

Interracial Crime

• Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving
blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent.
• Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against blacks. Fortyfive
percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10 percent are
Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of their victims are
black.
• Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against
a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.
• Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated hate crimes
against whites than vice versa.
Gangs
• Only 10 percent of youth gang members are white.
• Hispanics are 19 times more likely than whites to be members of youth gangs.
Blacks are 15 times more likely, and Asians are nine times more likely.

Incarceration

• Between 1980 and 2003 the US incarceration rate more than tripled, from 139
to 482 per 100,000, and the number of prisoners increased from 320,000 to 1.39
million.
• Blacks are seven times more likely to be in prison than whites. Hispanics are
three times more likely.

Sources: The Color of Crime, 2005, by Jared Taylor;
http://www.amren.com/newstore/cart.php?page=color_of_crime
http://amren.com/colorofcrime/color.pdf

Audio of these findings: http://www.amren.com/interviews/cesspool.mp3

Interviews and debates with the author, Jared Taylor:
http://www.amren.com/interviews/interviews.html


These race differences in crime statistics are only partly explained away with economic problems and with the fact that there are many times more whites than blacks and other non-whites, there still remains an important racial factor that is a cause for disproportionate crimes rates committed by non-whites.
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01-24-2008, 09:54 PM,
#3
Race Differences
Quote:Walter Williams

An ugly conspiracy of silence

http://www.jewishworldreview.com --
IF THERE'S TO BE RACIAL GOODWILL and harmony, at the minimum we must be willing to confront sometimes ugly truths. One of those truths has to do with interracial crime.

We all readily condemn highly publicized racial violence, and rightly so, such as last year's brutal murder of James Byrd by white supremacists in Jasper, Texas. However, there's little notice and condemnation of interracial crimes when whites are the victims.

Last June, Jared Taylor, president of New Century Foundation, in Oakton, Va., held a press conference at Washington's National Press Club to report on the foundation's recently released study, "The Color of Crime." Some of the study's findings about interracial crime were surprising, so much so that I did an independent verification of the numbers.

Since 1972, the U.S. Department of Justice has conducted a National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS) to determine the frequency of certain crimes.

One category is interracial crimes. Its most recent publication (1997), "Criminal Victimization in the U.S.," reports on data collected in 1994. In that year, there were about 1,700,000 interracial crimes, of which 1,276,030 involved whites and blacks. In 90 percent of the cases, a white was the victim and a black was the perpetrator, while in 10 percent of the cases it was the reverse.

Another finding of the NCVS report is that of the 2,025,464 violent crimes committed by blacks in 1994, 1,140,670 were against whites -- that's slightly over 56 percent. Whites committed 5,114,692 violent crimes; 135,360, or 2.6 percent were against blacks.

In 1997, there were 2,336 whites charged with anti-black crimes and 718 blacks charged with anti-white crimes, so-called hate crimes. Although the absolute number of white offenders was larger, the black rate per 100,000 of the population was greater, making blacks twice as likely to commit hate crimes.

Regardless of race, criminal violence is despicable and deserving of condemnation. But far more destructive are the official and unofficial attempts to mislead and conceal. Roughly 400 members of the major print and electronic media were invited to the press conference on "The Color of Crime." According to Taylor, several asked for advanced copies before they'd consider sending anyone. Only 14 people stayed for the briefing and only a couple reported on the study, most notably The Washington Times and C-Span. One reporter said that he'd like to write a story but he doubted he could get it by his editor.

If the facts were the other way around, everybody from The New York Times and President Clinton to the NAACP, Jesse Jackson and the Congressional Black Caucus would be shouting about it and demanding that something be done. Some might want to keep silent about the facts for fear that publicizing the true nature and magnitude of interracial crime might give, as I've been told, "aid and comfort to America's white racists."

To the contrary, silence is perhaps one of the most effective recruitment tools for racists. They can use our silence for proselytizing disaffected whites with demagoguery about how hate crimes are not important unless a black is the victim and how no one cares about blacks raping white women and assaulting white men.

Interracial crime has other devastating effects on racial relations. Whites are apprehensive of blacks, and blacks are offended at being the subjects of that apprehension. Whites are less willing to live in black neighborhoods. For the unthinking among us, these and other responses to racial disparities in crime translate into simple racism.

Multi-ethnic societies are inherently unstable, and how we handle matters of interracial crime is just one of the ways that we're contributing to that instability.
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/williams081899.asp
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01-24-2008, 11:34 PM,
#4
Race Differences
lol, you're such a fucking loser kon

you're more of a nazi propagandist than a researcher

and your Goebbelian threads are repetitive, boring, and useless

*yawn*
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01-25-2008, 12:00 AM,
#5
Race Differences
I dont think its right to post this kind of info
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01-25-2008, 04:32 AM, (This post was last modified: 01-25-2008, 04:49 AM by Hei Hu Quan.)
#6
Race Differences
This topic's irredeemable shit. Posting racist, IllumiNazi eugenics crap like this just earned you your first warning.
"We Will Fight and Fight from This Generation to the Next" - Vietnamese People's Fighting Slogan
Freedom Undefended is Freedom Unearned!

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01-25-2008, 05:20 AM,
#7
Race Differences
Quote:This topic's irredeemable shit. Posting racist, IllumiNazi eugenics crap like this just earned you your first warning.

Why is is okay to suggest blacks have bigger dicks than whites but not okay to suggest that blacks and whites evolved differently intellectually?

Do ANY OF YOU have ANY EVIDENCE whatsoever that proves all races evolved the same intellectually? No, I didn't think so.

I'd rather read konev's post suggesting we evolved differently than read some politically correct (and BASELESS) bullshit saying we didn't.
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01-25-2008, 05:31 AM, (This post was last modified: 01-25-2008, 05:32 AM by Hei Hu Quan.)
#8
Race Differences
Hey Mike it's your forum if you want to foster this crap which will only attract worse that's your prerogative. You're way off if you think that's what where I'm coming from on this with your comments. This is plain old generic IllumiNazi Eugenic pseudo-science that anyone can read in the Skinhead Digest. For fuck's sake I thought ConCen was above this racialist divisive shit. You don't think garbage like this is offensive and disrespectful to others in the membership?

You tell me... how does this help unify the masses to fight these bastards? This crap plays right into their hands and aids them in kicking our ass through divide and conquer and the fomentation of petty hatred.
"We Will Fight and Fight from This Generation to the Next" - Vietnamese People's Fighting Slogan
Freedom Undefended is Freedom Unearned!

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01-25-2008, 05:38 AM,
#9
Race Differences
I'm just trying to assure there's not a politically correct knee-jerk reaction for the sake thereof.

Put it this way HHQ, if it were ever proven scientifically and genetically that there was a difference, it would be quashed and that I disagree with.

I just find this issue retarded. I can easily imagine people telling me fags are "born gay" due to GENES but it's impossible for people to be "born criminal" or "born stupid". People like that would try to have it both ways. That's what spawned my comment... not an endorsement.
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01-25-2008, 05:44 AM,
#10
Race Differences
It seems to me that any claim for intellectual genetic superiority amongst races boils down the neuronic /synaptic action that's going on in the brain.

the closest stat to that concept quoted was:Cortical neurons

(millions)..............................13,185...........................13,665.
..........................13,767

black,white,asian respectively.

put that into scroogle it throws up this:

Cortical neurons millions ..............................13,185...........................13,665...........
................13,767 - Google Search


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            I asked for up to 100 results, it brought up just 5.

            which is odd..including an Israeli bobybuilding site:LOL:but excluding that there is still enough to read from to debate.

            One of the postsers on a forum linked mentions about the importance to not see people as groups above that of individuals, although i'm all for grouping for justice and truth. That's where I'm coming from.<span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"> I can't comment on the data as to whether it's true or not. it's entirely possible the results are bogus as some of the other criterium were completely subjective.

            I think it's a debate all about r/K selection really..

            http://cfpm.org/jom-emit/1997/vol1/fog_a.html


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            edit] and the validity or otherwise of his research aside, Rushton is still an out and out racist prick IMO
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01-25-2008, 05:55 AM,
#11
Race Differences
I hear you Mike, for me it's an issue of respect of other members and what we're trying to build here as a collective. You know I'm straight across the board with this, like the time hardboilednwokilla posted that horrifically satanic anti-Christian image with the bloody, brutalised woman with a cross shoved into her body. Or the time I defended those of the Muslim faith by chastising an scumbag who posted a twisted image of the Prophet Mohammad engaging in a perverse act.

To be silent is to be acceptant and I'm all about breaking their game and winning. Division is the best tool they have in their arsenal. I say let's give it back to them to shove up their ass.
"We Will Fight and Fight from This Generation to the Next" - Vietnamese People's Fighting Slogan
Freedom Undefended is Freedom Unearned!

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01-25-2008, 06:00 AM,
#12
Race Differences
I know it's a fine line! I heard on the radio today a canuck has been charged with a hate crime and the behest of a jewish group here over a net posting from 2004. It makes me wonder where the fuck the ADL is in my life? No harrassment yet?
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01-25-2008, 11:17 AM,
#13
Race Differences
Yes, I thought there would be a hostile reaction against this topic...

First of all, I havent seen any topic called: "Rules what you can and cannot say", so I could not have known what is allowed to be said here.

Second, in a Finnish science forum http://www.tiede.fi all these race differences are acknowledged by the vast majority as facts. On that forum there are about 12,000 users. They, on that forum, are just wondering what are the causes for these differences. So the reactions on that forum gave me hopes that it wouldnt be a hopeless situation on this forum.

Third, I thought that, because it is here allowed to critisize religions and bring forth unpleasant facts about them: "religions are slavery and have oppressed everyone, especially the Christian religion"; and it seems to be fine to critisize and bring forth unpleasant facts about Europeans and their history (evil white European oppressors); and it seems to be fine to critisize Israelis, Zionist-Jews and Jews and their history (Holocaust story, Bolshevik revolution, Zionism, Jewish involvement in slave trade, Jewish bankers, etc.), I thought that same applies to other peoples and races as well.

Fourth, there is this worldwide drive towards multiculturalism (IMO conspiratorial). We are being conditioned by this multicultural propaganda on the [Jewish controlled] media everyday. Politicians are talking about it on the daily basis. Our education system is conditioning us from childhood to this direction. The US is becoming majority non-white in 2050. Well, I for one need to know whether this multiculturalism is a good idea or not.

Fifth, the [Jewish controlled] media does NOT report these facts, especially the crime statistics. There is an [conspiratorial] effort to keep these facts away from you. I thought on this forum we talk about everything the mainstream media doesnt report.

Sixth, these facts did shock my worldview about a year ago, which made me even more interested. After looking at these facts in detail, I came into the conclusion that this makes much more sense.



Concerning dr. J. Philippe Rushton, whose book Race, Evolution and Behavior I own, he is a very distinguished scientist who has made a lot of research. IQ tests he himself conducted on thousands of people. If you want to see some criticism, there you go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Philippe_R...on_and_his_work

If you are skeptical and want more criticism, I'll give you that. Listen the interviews and debates about races with Jared Taylor. I dont think there is any better way in finding out who is wrong and who is right:
http://www.amren.com/interviews/interviews.html

I especially recommend this one: Jared Taylor debates Tim Wise on The Infidel Guy Show, May 11, 2005, 90 min:
http://www.amren.com/interviews/timwisedebate.mp3



The accusation of pseudo science. Ok, lets see what kind of science is the 9/11 controlled demolition science for example. There is a theory of controlled demolition. It is based on the fact that the collapse of the twin towers can also be interpreted to look like they are blowing outwords, WTC 7 = implosion, and that some eyewitnesses heard explosions. There are a bit over 200 architects and engineers and few demolition experts who support this view. There are much more scientists who support the official story of 9/11 attacks. I myself have read a thread on a Finnish science forum that is now 616 pages long http://www.tiede.fi/keskustelut/viewtopic....&start=9210 And nobody has managed to prove that 9/11 was and inside job or that the towers were brought down via controlled demolition. At the end of that thread there is now a real Finnish structural expert saying that towers 1 and 2 collapsed due to planes and fires, and that it is possible but not likely that WTC 7 was an implosion. There are scientists on both sides of the issue, and that's a big problem. The problem with 9/11 science is that there is no decisive evidence to back it up. And yet, I bet that about 95% of the people on this forum think that 9/11 was definetely and inside/Mossad job (including me), even though there is no decisive evidence to prove this. So, 9/11 conspiracy theory is definetely not scientifically proven, it's just a theory. (Although we might argue that the evidence was destroyed, as it probably was, the absence of material evidence unfortunately does not prove anything.)

And then there is theory that races are similar or that they are different. Lets see now; races look different, behave differently, talk differently, have completely different histories, different cultures, and are good, better and superior at different things. In the early 1900's about EVERY scientist concluded that races were completely different. After WW2 very many scientists still concluded that races are different, but many scientists now all of the sudden thought that races are the same. Now, there is scientific research that proves races are different (IQ tests, etc.), and I dont think that there is any real scientific research proving that races are the same. Rushton in fact early in his career thought that races were the same, but he was forced to change his mind later, since he found out that obviously races are not the same. Well, I conclude that there is enough scientific research to prove that races are different.



This is not about dividing anyone, I'm just reporting you the facts mainstream media and education system arent giving to you. And if these facts divide some people, well then maybe it was needed to divide them. And isnt this 9/11 truth movement too dividing people, between those who believe the official story and those who dont? It doesnt do any good hiding the crucial facts (on the contrary), just like the mainstream media does. I'm doing this because I feel these facts are extremely important concerning our future.
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01-25-2008, 11:20 AM,
#14
Race Differences
Quote:lol, you're such a fucking loser kon

you're more of a nazi propagandist than a researcher

and your Goebbelian threads are repetitive, boring, and useless

*yawn*
Easy for you to shriek these labels. If I would care about these labels I would not talk about these things. In addition, I'm not going to make a new account every time I start a new topic, just because if I bring forth enough unpleasant topics I might get a certain label.

Is there something wrong about my threads? Can you prove that races are the same for example?
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01-25-2008, 11:24 AM,
#15
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Quote:I dont think its right to post this kind of info
I disagree. I dont think it's right to keep this information away from people, just like the mainstream media does. I think these are important facts that need to be confronted. Especially nowdays when there is this worldwide drive towards enforced multiculturalism and globalism. I think these are crucial facts that affect our future.
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