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For the atheists
02-04-2008, 04:19 AM, (This post was last modified: 02-04-2008, 04:27 AM by NtCkEr.)
#46
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Quote:NtCkEr,
Can you show me where it says that? In Quran or Hadith?

Also, its the choice of the father/brother etc. of the girl to do what they want to the criminal, if the girls been raped.

No rape involved that's just your cognitive dissonance, they stone for simply having sex:

The proof : http://hadith.al-islam.com/bayan/display.a...g=en&ID=977

Exemples of the prophet applying the punishement so you won't doubt the hadith:

http://hadith.al-islam.com/bayan/display.a...=eng&ID=979

http://hadith.al-islam.com/bayan/display.a...=eng&ID=978

http://hadith.al-islam.com/bayan/display.a...=eng&ID=980
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02-04-2008, 05:10 AM,
#47
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Ok married couple that cause adultry or impregnate some else deserve death. I dont see anything wrong with that.
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02-04-2008, 05:51 AM,
#48
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Quote:Ok married couple that cause adultry or impregnate some else deserve death. I dont see anything wrong with that.
I...am...speechless:nuts:

If that is not mind control to self-righteously kill your fellow human being, I don't know what it is.
Your argument for this is simply "God said so", and wonder why atheists don't simply beleive.
&To be GOVERNED is to be kept in sight, inspected, spied upon, directed, law-driven, numbered, enrolled, indoctrinated, preached at, controlled, estimated, valued, censured, commanded, by creatures who have neither the right, nor the wisdom, nor the virtue to do so...& - Pierre-Joseph Proudhon

&In the Middle Ages, they took the name of serfs; nowadays, they are called wage earners.& Mikhail Bakunin
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02-04-2008, 06:19 AM,
#49
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Quote:Ok married couple that cause adultry or impregnate some else deserve death. I dont see anything wrong with that.

Disgusting. Who would put those to death...a islamic theocracy?

fucking pig
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02-04-2008, 08:06 AM,
#50
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Quote:Ok married couple that cause adultry or impregnate some else deserve death. I dont see anything wrong with that.
Yeah pretty not cool
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02-04-2008, 08:16 AM, (This post was last modified: 02-04-2008, 08:18 AM by mastermg.)
#51
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Ok fine they dont deserve death thats what i really think. Its up to God to punish the person not humans. Theres my real thoughts on it, im not evil.
To Nyte: i know your butthurt from me and im sorry.
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02-04-2008, 09:21 AM,
#52
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Hmmm.
Wishing death on people for having consensual sex comes off as pretty evil to me....but what do I know. I'm just an "immoral atheist". :rolleyes:
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02-23-2008, 04:26 AM, (This post was last modified: 02-23-2008, 05:17 AM by shZ.)
#53
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I don't quite understand the point of this thread, or what purpose it sevres. If anyone is intrested in inviting people to a religion X, I think it's safe to say leading by example as opposed to preaching would be a better alternative. And I think Muslims, along with other Christian, Jews, and other people professing to be believers any particular religion of faith have done quite a bang up job of it. It is my personal belief as well that I'm far from being in a position to fit that description myself (i.e. leading by example). And I'll leave it at that. Much of the resentment towards religion is laregly a byproduct of instituionalized heirarchical systems controled by men and an astronomical amount of hypocracy coming from said "believers" and religious "authorities" over the centuries. Human history has an over abundance of examples to illistrate this point, so I don't feel the need to list or reiterate any of them. If a person wishes to be truly religious and pious, his or her first concern should be taking a good look in the mirror. In my experience it's a very humbling excercise, and I'd personally recommend it lol. Perhaps there may be a stage later on in ones life where it might make some sense to be more concerned with choices made by others, but I doubt it. What say you?

EDIT: This is a personal belief of mine, others may disagree. But shouldn't an individuals relationship with God or lack of be their business?
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02-23-2008, 05:12 AM,
#54
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Quote:i know your butthurt from me and im sorry.

does your religious text allow that sort of thing?? :o :LOL:
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02-25-2008, 02:18 PM,
#55
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Quote:Whats your purpose in life, if its not worshipping God? Also, how were you created or put on this Earth? There is much evidence to prove evolution is wrong.

Our purpose is NOT to worship God, but to live full lifes. Salat is for our own sake, our own sense of belonging to God, not for Gods sake. Thats the lie that the hadithists managed to popularize. Show me the punishment found in the Quran for not upholding the salat....there isnt one. This is for our own sake alone. God is, by own admission, above and beyond that.

And there is not much evidence to prove evolution wrong, on the contrary. Mutations seems to be the name of the game, it is working like a computerprogram, if you insert x here the outcome will likely be y or Z but never A and B.

If you drop an apple, it will fall to the ground, and never up into the sky. So the interresting question is, who is the programmer? Or are we really to belive that such an amazing piece of information technology as the known univserse "just" came about. Thats ludicris, but evolution isnt.

Againt, someone is defending their hadiths, instead of:

088:017-019
Why do they not reflect on the camels and how they are created?
And the sky and how it is raised.
And the mountains and how they are constructed.

looking around them, observing the nature of things as evidence of God.
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