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03-31-2008, 08:02 PM,
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Quote:I bring this up because I sincerely believe that your movement is being hijacked by psychiatric cases.

My source is his own page http://nb.xiandos.info/Brukerdiskusjon:Meco/Nid, where he boasts of his porn site while excusing himself by stating that the pictures of children were not offered for money like the ones of sexually mature boys were. He also claims on the same page that pedophilia is an expression of high sexual development.

Would Halvor please be so kind as to comment on this?
That's a Norwegian site, we all are a bit rusty in Norwegian. Be specific and do it English please.
I don't know Norwegian at all, so it would be nice to have the entire page translated. Google doesn't have Norwegian to English as an option in their lanuguage tools, but I guess Halvor/Meco could comment on this himself assuming that's what it actually says, as I don't understand Norwegian.

It's correct that I used to operate such a site in the late 1990s. However, my reason for having written about it was to be open about my past, not to "boast". I'd be happy to discuss issues concerning the ontology of sexuality if anyone is interested in pursuing such a subject here.

Halvor

I don't want to discuss the ontology of sexuality with you meco,unless it relates to conspiracy. But I still can't read that page..
Can you explain some more on what is being spoken what,please? For those of us who still don't quite know what you and Njegosh are actually referring to..

I'm not sure what njegosh wants to present with this. I have confirmed the issue relating to an FTP site which I operated about a decade ago, parts of which did contain homosexual child pornography (e.g. very young boys being used by older men) among other homosexual pornography. If there is more to be investigated in this regard I welcome any questions and will attempt to provide answers. As for njegosh's motives and other points he might want to pursue, I have to leave that to him. The Xiando's site is currently down (has been since yesterday).

Halvor
03-31-2008, 08:26 PM,
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Quote:I bring this up because I sincerely believe that your movement is being hijacked by psychiatric cases.

My source is his own page http://nb.xiandos.info/Brukerdiskusjon:Meco/Nid, where he boasts of his porn site while excusing himself by stating that the pictures of children were not offered for money like the ones of sexually mature boys were. He also claims on the same page that pedophilia is an expression of high sexual development.

Would Halvor please be so kind as to comment on this?
That's a Norwegian site, we all are a bit rusty in Norwegian. Be specific and do it English please.
I don't know Norwegian at all, so it would be nice to have the entire page translated. Google doesn't have Norwegian to English as an option in their lanuguage tools, but I guess Halvor/Meco could comment on this himself assuming that's what it actually says, as I don't understand Norwegian.

It's correct that I used to operate such a site in the late 1990s. However, my reason for having written about it was to be open about my past, not to "boast". I'd be happy to discuss issues concerning the ontology of sexuality if anyone is interested in pursuing such a subject here.

Halvor

I don't want to discuss the ontology of sexuality with you meco,unless it relates to conspiracy. But I still can't read that page..
Can you explain some more on what is being spoken what,please? For those of us who still don't quite know what you and Njegosh are actually referring to..

I'm not sure what njegosh wants to present with this. I have confirmed the issue relating to an FTP site which I operated about a decade ago, parts of which did contain homosexual child pornography (e.g. very young boys being used by older men) among other homosexual pornography. If there is more to be investigated in this regard I welcome any questions and will attempt to provide answers. As for njegosh's motives and other points he might want to pursue, I have to leave that to him. The Xiando's site is currently down (has been since yesterday).

Halvor
You were a pornographer?
it does sound a bit odd havlor..even though you're very frank about it I am still non the wiser really. what's your story with the FTPsite and these presumabely illegal images?..I mean,it will need sorting out now what's been going on with that there..I'm sure you can appreciate that.
03-31-2008, 09:38 PM,
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Quote:I bring this up because I sincerely believe that your movement is being hijacked by psychiatric cases.

My source is his own page http://nb.xiandos.info/Brukerdiskusjon:Meco/Nid, where he boasts of his porn site while excusing himself by stating that the pictures of children were not offered for money like the ones of sexually mature boys were. He also claims on the same page that pedophilia is an expression of high sexual development.

Would Halvor please be so kind as to comment on this?
That's a Norwegian site, we all are a bit rusty in Norwegian. Be specific and do it English please.
I don't know Norwegian at all, so it would be nice to have the entire page translated. Google doesn't have Norwegian to English as an option in their lanuguage tools, but I guess Halvor/Meco could comment on this himself assuming that's what it actually says, as I don't understand Norwegian.

It's correct that I used to operate such a site in the late 1990s. However, my reason for having written about it was to be open about my past, not to "boast". I'd be happy to discuss issues concerning the ontology of sexuality if anyone is interested in pursuing such a subject here.

Halvor

I don't want to discuss the ontology of sexuality with you meco,unless it relates to conspiracy. But I still can't read that page..
Can you explain some more on what is being spoken what,please? For those of us who still don't quite know what you and Njegosh are actually referring to..

I'm not sure what njegosh wants to present with this. I have confirmed the issue relating to an FTP site which I operated about a decade ago, parts of which did contain homosexual child pornography (e.g. very young boys being used by older men) among other homosexual pornography. If there is more to be investigated in this regard I welcome any questions and will attempt to provide answers. As for njegosh's motives and other points he might want to pursue, I have to leave that to him. The Xiando's site is currently down (has been since yesterday).

Halvor
You were a pornographer?
it does sound a bit odd havlor..even though you're very frank about it I am still non the wiser really. what's your story with the FTPsite and these presumabely illegal images?..I mean,it will need sorting out now what's been going on with that there..I'm sure you can appreciate that.

As I said, I'll be happy to give the best answers that I can. This is obviously something that has had a big impact on me and my subsequent development. And on the other hand it didn't arise out of nothing. A short version is that ever since I attained puberty I was attracted to and sexually aroused by the sight/thought of boys (pubescent, not prepubescent). So, with the money I got for my 13th birthday I ran downtown and bought myself a Super 8 mm film projector and two 10 min flics, one with two boys, 14 and 15 years old, and one with a boy, about the same age, who as a boy scout knocks on the door of an older woman (in order to sell something or rather) who subsequently seduces him. After this I continued to be a high-volume consumer of gay pornography with a preferance for pubescent boys. Before the Internet started up and I got on it (in early 1994), I had never before encountered child pornography. It did not take long before I discovered the gay porn channels on IRC with names such as #gayteengifs. I purchased a 28k8 leased line around 1995-96 to enable me to remain online 24/7. So I started to collect erotic and pornographic photos of boys, still no prepubescent. As I gradually became aware that there was a pedophiliac presence on the net, I looked this up out of curiosity and genuine interest for what this was all about. It was subsequent to this that I began accepting a few images that went below. agewise, what I had previously received. Due to the illicit nature of this trade and the high level of paranoia in the men who had a particular interest in this, I closed off a part of my then FTP site for such trade, giving out separate access to people who were particularly interested in exchanging either nude photos of prepubescent boys (aroused or not), photos showing such young boys engaged sexually with each other, or pictures of adult men having sex with these young boys, this particular genre goes by the name of "intergen" (meaning intergenerational ).

With regards to the legal pictures, they were of the same kind that I presented openly in image galleries on my personal home page, which I believe had 800,000 visitors as early as 1995. I did charge money for access to my "legal" connection from people who weren't trading (remember that this all started as a trader-collector activity on IRC using the DCC protocol), I believe $25 for six months access (I don't remember exactly). My gains from this approximately covered my expenses for the leased line, that's how I justified to myself taking that money. And since all the people who ever had access to the youngest pictures were already into this activity of exchanging (or trading, as the term was, it was a fully reciprocal process) them, pay was never considered. Besides, I was quite consciouss that there were ethical considerations involved, not to mention criminal, so I did not want to provide access to this material to people that were not already into this.

All my child pornographic images were hidden on my hard drive by an encryption protocol which in some respects is similar to PGP, which was called SFS- Secure File System. So, when I was arrested in November 1998 and all my computers impounded, the police were never able to find this material. The reason for my arrest was somewhat unrelated to this. It involved a burnt CD which contained heterosexual porn which some teenage boys who had been in my apartment asserted that they had received from me. That CD was an anomaly as I had never cared for naked women or girls. It had been left (forgotten maybe) by a teenage boy whom I had become acquainted with, and when some other teenage boys (a little yonger, around 14) were in my home, they discovered it and asked if they could borrow it. Not giving that matter much thought I said fine. I was convicted in the lower courts for having made illegal pornography available to minors, however, when the case was appealed, I was acquitted as it became unclear whether the CD presented in court was the same which I had had in my apartment (and which I had barely glanced at).

So, consequently, my entusiasm for Internet pornography waned rapidly. In fact, I experienced what can probably best be described as pornography exhaustion. Having abused my eroticism with audiovisual voyerism through pornography for my entire adult life, I experienced a spiritual dearth where my life had become very bland, I hadn't had any dreams for years, and I was completely deprived of the ability to make visualizations in my mind. And, I lost my sexual drive to a significant, and to me alarming, degree. In fact, I went to see a sexologist. He in turn prescribed psychotherapy, and for a few years I regularly went to see a shrink to try and untangle my life and gain some sort of purpose and direction and, meaning. Probably an important factor for the big changes that were then to take place in my life also was my having begun to experiment with cannabis in 1997, at the age of 33. Through 2003 I did a lot of this drug. In the meanwhile I also tried out ecstacy and amphetamine, and I discovered House music.

This is as compact as I am able to present this matter to relay the minimum of context and meaning with regards to your inquiry. The laptop, my last computer, was stolen/disappeared from my possession from a notorious conspiracy/ex-hippie hangout in Oslo in early 2003. That place, Hjelmsgate 3, was, and I'm sure still is, seriously infested with intel agents, and certainly should warrant much more attention than it so far has received. Now, I still don't understand how this has any bearing on what is being discussed here. I still think njegosh has to connect some dots. Otherwise, I'll await any follow-up questions.

Halvor
03-31-2008, 10:08 PM,
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Thankyou for clarifying, havlor
03-31-2008, 10:21 PM,
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Wow, thanks for little confessional "coming clean" session there Halvor. I think it's a little more than we bargained for but I'm glad at least that you have, I'd say, sufficiently clarified yourself regarding any possible 'variables' on your part that we were unaware of. :biggrin:

I'm glad you traded in porn for pot....:wink:
General Brainquirks:http://1phil4everyill.wordpress.com

Mind control imbued by movies:http://predictiveprogramminginmovies.blogspot.com

Movers and Shakers of the SMOM:http://moversandshakersofthesmom.blogspot...identity.html
05-12-2008, 03:06 PM,
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waste of time
05-21-2008, 12:54 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-21-2008, 12:55 PM by Zoharian.)
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Gee after a long while now there is a still a large percentage of gullible users (particularly mods and those with their own radio show, have discredited themselves very much so concerning themselves with nut case Zagami) who believe this nut case Leo. Is it so hard to see him ignoring direct questions and babbling on an on about random shit to make him look informed and genuine?

And what the fuck was that eBay auction bullshit that this fucker offered (minimum bid $3000 and Buy Now $25k or some shit like that for dinner with this loon), now that has to tell something. Seems not, many have gone beyond the point of gullibility to no return unfortunately. Sad, very sad......
05-22-2008, 11:26 PM,
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People still waste their time circle jerking with this bullshit?


Nothing seems to change at Conspiracy Central Forums...
http://conspiracycentral.info/index.php?sh...amp;#entry39769
05-22-2008, 11:50 PM,
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Quote:People still waste their time circle jerking with this bullshit?


Nothing seems to change at Conspiracy Central Forums...
http://conspiracycentral.info/index.php?sh...amp;#entry39769


At this point most of us are trying to boot fuck it to death......but a mod keeps throwing himself over the body and screaming "Nooooo listen to what he says!!!"
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05-23-2008, 07:02 AM,
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That was Leo lol?
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05-23-2008, 12:45 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-23-2008, 01:02 PM by Zoharian.)
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Quote:lol where the fuck did you pop up from user 14,144? seems like you might have been round the block before judging from your commentary.

welcome to concen! thanks for the input you intel wannabe. Tell you what, why don't you take your zohar and stick it right up where the sun don't

lots love

nik:)


Thanks for the warm welcome, your kindness and good nature are much appreciated.:)

Quote:edit) and oh yeah yeah please do try and give me some shit - you can even consider it an incite to ban your bogus account's ass from this site - and believe, i'll be often checking yout IP

as it goes, fuck zagami (like I said before) but I'm targeting for psyoptic bullshit in general and you're bang in my sights 14,144. just so you know..

Man you must have better things to do with your time, then monitor a presumably suspicious account, sort of sad buddy.:)

Lol wtf is this psyoptic paranoid bullshit anyway? :o
05-23-2008, 06:23 PM,
#27
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Quote, 'Radio ConCen and ConCen forums are as useful as a finished roll of toilet paper' - Zoharian.

That's below the belt.
05-23-2008, 06:41 PM,
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cheers Nik. So ill get right back to business. I took the time to download what i suppose is the newest interview with Leo. And i noted down a few points that had me wonder. Is this the stuff that makes Leo?

07:00 -> Leo always stick to his threats (better watch our norwegian ministers:))

11:33 thalemic love is the law and all this bullshit, oh wait, nothing is bullshit

12:-> Leo: Just like the intelligence community uses entities like angels, i too on 5/6th of june 2006 (666),
i made a deal with lucifer, and mohammad, ok?.....in all this time (since 666 i take it) i have been in
control of the demon lucifer.....but now after all this time, we have parted, me and lucifer THIS
weekend in kansas city, because i dont really have to stick with lucifer any longer, if you know what
i mean (nudge nudge)...*telephone call from Leo's mom supposedly*

Leos mom apprently speaks english with her son? that would
make her the only woman in italy, as most elderly italians are horrible at english if they understand it
at all, and he tells his mom how he would like to go to the shriners and relax.

15:-> Leo: i have made a promise to the jewish people not to be anti semitic AND THEY AGREED positively.
(who "they"? speaking on behalf of the jewish people). and im going to stop all the nazi propaganda
that im doing in europe.

16:-> im not in legue with the lucifer anymore and i dont want to be with it,.....if i kept listening to
lucifer i would send the jews back to the concentration camps.

18:-> skull and bones is the symbol of the knights templar

19:-> phil: are you saying that basically youre possed by lucifer, Leo: yes, yes i was but they send me a real
exorcist here in kansas city this weekend.

so no longer does leo have to work with the lucifer problem
and can now progress onto the jesus problem. another revelation here is that bush and co are working with lowlevel demons.

Phil: "its all a little confusing

Leo: "thats because i speak in code, i want to send messages to all my agents.

Leo: *manic laughter*, im sorry phil i have to be honest, im a crock.

We should follow the law, and the law is do as thou will but im not
alistair crowley (anymore?)

22:-> now leo himself says that his possesion day was 666 and ventures into a fantastic story about a cave were the ritual took place, they have
a painting of lucifer, there is magic seals, the whole ball of wax, and leo tells us that all this is
holy stuff.

23:-> leo is a spirit teacher, and he is now working for God....and Jesus in the end times

25:-> Phil is seriously asking Leo...is this something that is for real, or is this part of the code?
Leo: its both!

And Leo thinks its very painfull working with demons, but being the good soul he is
he did it for the sake of science.

26:-> Leo joined up with lucifer to protect himself from the revenge of his lodge, it was lucifer that
got him out of trouble

27:-> how dare ppeople call leo mentally ill when his father is the man who practically invented the brain
and psychology as an ordered assignment for the illuminaughty

28:-> psychiatry is evil, he draws on Cruise for this one, but says he doesnt agree with other things said
supposed actor says.

29: Fbi arranged his arrest for his commitment with the OTO. Too bad i have the pleasure of being
freind of a high priestess in the OTO in Germany. OTO are neodruids and as such abhored by most
christians reseachers who keep living on the fact that the "beast" was a member eons ago. This is why the whole OTO conspiracy thing was started by christian researchers.
The fact remains they are nature/diety worshippers and about as sinister as a bag of kittens. Leo is just
making things up entirely based on the "research" out there and primarily from christian researchers, as non christians rarely find them any more scary than any of the other religions/philosphies out there.
True, "the beast" was a founding member, but ask any of them what they think about him and youll
realise that he is seen as no hero there. He had some good ideas, went fucking apeshit insane, end of
story, for them. But his affiliation with them sure sticks in the minds of people who
knows nothing about it, and who are willing to just take other peoples "word for it". So i can from personal experience debunk atleast this claim of his.

31:-> Phil my worst enemy is myself...

Leo, you are YOUR ONLY enemy, the rest is something you made up, or people you pissed off because you are troubled.

33:-> how can you be against me, do you want to be a dead man?

34: Leo narrates a story that he saw bush sr., (personally obvious) and the man was wearing a baphomet hat.

apparently at this point the interviewers brains wakes up for a moment and he asks, do you have a picture. But alas, ofcourse leo has nothing but his own word for it....as usual.

35: bush and peers are scared because they have only lower level demons, but Leo (again apprently) has
the master demon lucifer who protected him untill he could get to kansas city and start the liberty lodge
so the jewish community, the big rabbis could help him out.

he has been christian, then muslim, i wonder what his next object of fascinastion is going to be, judaism?

36: Leo: one thing phil i work with the priori de sion, and the p2 lodge. and every imbicile on the face of
the earth should know what im doing here.

36:50 : Phil questions his threats against the Norwegian prime minister on behalf of the rest of us, thanks
for that phil its appreciated. Leos response is that he is very serious, if he gets arrested again he will kill the norwegian prime minister.

selected quotes from this section of the interview: "wats the fookin prublem, ima gansteer"

"ultimately i want to work on my jesus project, so let me work" ....*scary manic laughter*

Leo asks us forum guys to be serious, and Phil promises Leo to defend him, which in my case happened.
The use of force on dissenters, is a tone very fitting for gangsters.

37: Phil is saying, im trying to defend you but its getting ridiculous, these guys wont stand for
reason........

38: Leo thinks it doesnt matter because when the shit hits the fan we will all be crying because we dont
have Messiah Leo to protect us.

Dont worry Leo, i Gave Icke 3 quids so im all good.

39: phil asks whats the standing is on fullford. But Leo thinks that USA is is anti china because they
are a bunch of commies followed by more manic laugther.

40: The guys used their technology to invoke lucifer, and thats what caused the earthquakes. Funny, 20
minutes ago leo was arguin that they could not invoke lucifer, but only lesser demons, thats why
they were unrelaxed around Leo because he could invoke, in fact he was possed by lucifer.

40:20 Leo: and i have to confess i was altso involved with it (earthquakes i think), and i have the documentation to prove it
i have been a very very naighty boy. Apparently Leo did it because "they asked him to".....

leo: "The Cia wants to have all the demons under their control, but without me they cant have lucifer.

hang on now leo, did they or did they not themself invoke lucifer? And didnt you stop working with
lucifer just this very weekend?

42: it wasnt an exorcism par se, it was more like old freinds parting with him and lucifer, but he
had to do it in front of the jews now, so they could see the bond was off.

43: now everybody can invoke lucifer, but each has their own ways to do it.

45: Leo is the only person on the planet who can control lucifer

46: he met with mohammad

48: from this point on, Leo gives a message to his agents listening in...in italian strangely enough,
the language he doesnt speak with his own mother. Whats that, it wasnt his mother but a code for an agent?
i thought they spoke italian?

51: God owes Leo a favour because he is a mujahideen (a muslim at war on a physical or mental level)
The muslims protect him

even tho he thretened to bomb one of their most sacred places?,all this
because leo doesnt understand the word Mujahideen other than its use in western media.

52 the muslims well have to respect him because he respects MOhammad, and they have to do it untill
the end of time, otherwise Leo will kick islamic ass!

53: now he is talking to his muslims agents, starting out with "bismillah al rachmann al racheem, in the
mumblemubmle most compasionate all you motherfucker mujahideen you are my army now."

This because leo under his muslim alias is the sword of God..."you obey me mecca, you obey me mecca otherwise i destroy it."

55. abuse of arabic, and then
leo "shame on those, shame on those, shame one those who speak out against me, they will end with iblis (the doubter/devil) in hell.

This is leo mimicing your average imam sprouting at any mosque.

58. latin gibberish for an odd couple of minutes which supposedly is a ritual of some kind

1:00 Leo braggin about his language skills

1:01 2019 the rise of the 4th reich! the kingdom of God after 7 years of tribulation

1:03 russia and europe have technology that the CIA has to buy from them.after 2019 there will be a different kind of society with different kinds of technology,

1:05 with love you can obtain a science that you cant obtain with hatred.

this is actually a very nice observasion!

1:06 -> I think this part from here on is one of the more important in these incoherent ramblings. This is a saviour complex fully ablaze. And lets face it, there has been several hints along the way pointing to something like this. Leo has to chose between light and the darkness for all humanity.. and shouts out.....HALLELUJA!

1:08 angels are all male in the higher hierachy

1:10 Leo is a scientist. Leo: "im just a scientist doing his job in Gods name, trying to grasp putting everything together at peace with eachother"

1:11 repeated death threats again the norwegian prime minister, allthough Leo thinks he will back of now that he has done all that "Jewish stuff" this weekend.

1:17 leos has nuclear weapons and has threatend the US president many times, and he is there in kansas city treated like a king.

1:21 leos succesor is named kha kha khan, and they better got dammit give Leo the nobel peace prize or he will blow up their nation.

1:24 They have beutyful women in norway and it makes life for 007 types like leo very pleasurable. ohhh so its Kansas in norway that Leo's at or?

Thats pretty much it, for those who could stomache the whole thing feel free to add or correct errors, one thing is abvious from the itnerview though. Leo is manic-depressive, and the interview is carried out with leo in a highly manic stage. Incoherent ramlings, speed talking (in several languages), the whole ball of wax.

LEO....please go and get help, there has to be someone that knows you from before you snapped that can be of help!
05-23-2008, 07:42 PM,
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Quote:Thats pretty much it, for those who could stomache the whole thing feel free to add or correct errors, one thing is abvious from the itnerview though. Leo is manic-depressive, and the interview is carried out with leo in a highly manic stage. Incoherent ramlings, speed talking (in several languages), the whole ball of wax.

I transcribed a couple of the more fanciful statements Leo made during that conversation in this thread:

http://conspiracycentral.info/index.php?sh...21763&st=40

I couldn't be bothered picking out every lie he told because I'd have been typing all day!! :laugh:

If you read further into that thread you can see how Leo Cheerleader #1 has to resort to threats to draw attention away from the fact he's been taken for a ride by a (not very convincing) conman. Anyone with common sense and rudimentary judgement skills would've spotted Leo for the bullshitter he is - sadly his fanclub are too proud to admit when they are wrong.

peace


M.E


p.s - glad to see you reinstated horseonwheels :smile:
06-09-2008, 02:05 AM,
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Wow, I'm glad I skipped out on all this Leo shit.

With that said I wish you didn't link to this DSB, might not of ever had to read this shit :tongue:

Gay child porn, shit don't patronize him with congratulations for coming clean. Give him a knife and instructions on how to use said knife across main arteries.
The belief in 'coincidence' is the prevalent superstition of the Age of Science.

&I don't understand why you're taking such a belligerant tone when you're obviously the ignorant one here. &
-triplesix


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